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Rise of the Anti-Christ

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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by Lucifer777
I reject the teachings of "Christ," the religion of Christ (Judaism), the political philosophy of Christ (Monarchy and the adherence to Mosaic Law), etc.

However, I have yet to come across a Christian who "does" follow the teachings and religion of "Christ;" mostly they just "quote mine" and "cherry pick" the texts to suit their own personal beliefs, misinterpretations and prejudices .

‘Carry neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, neither two robes, neither shoes, nor yet a staff. Mt 10’

If a person "was" to follow the teachings and religion of Jesus, they would be a homeless, wandering, shoeless, naked (assuming they sold their one robe to buy a sword), penniless, exorcist who carried out fake healings and miracles; they would just be another religious fanatic and charlatan; the world has so many of those already; further if they adhered to the "law and the prophets" they would never cut their hair or trim their beard and they would have to be genocidally and criminally insane in order to carry out all the required executions under the law.

Lucifer


My friend, Christs two great commandments were to Love God with all your being, and your neighbor as yourself. All else is commentary on how to get to Heaven, and how to do these two commandments.

Love is the law.

I am sorry for the pain caused to the world in Christs name. Think about it strategically though, how better to discredit a man's work towards peace? You cause war, death, and destruction in his name. Then the people will never want to hear what he taught!

As far as phony Christians go, Christ said: 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

I am not a Christian. I am a follower of Christ who has read his words for myself. I do not ask you to follow me, read his words for yourself and decide for yourself. Let his words be your teacher.

And if you choose not to, well you are a Child of God regardless, it is your will use it how you see fit.

With Love,

Your Brother




posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by lecaro
Most scripture has been mistranslated from the origin.. the Torah... The same book that begins the arch enemy of Christianity... Islam... so who's to say... Allah is not god... and Buddha is not Allah.. the same way in Dog, Perro, and un chien all mean the same thing.. ones Spanish .. ones English.. and ones french.. but they all point to the same thing.


God is beyond a name my friend. God manifests an infinite number of ways. Call God any name you wish, or no name at all. God is within you, talk to God how YOU choose.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by TheFuzzMonster
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Agreed, however, you might want to do your research, the anti-christ isn't something people become through ignorance but rather the worship of Satan (the god of this world). Many people offer things that don't belong to them up to him and he accepts it, in return they get money, fame, etc. (not Eternal Life though, and that's what you're really supposed to want right?). There are groups, (and 1 big one, You know who I'm talking about) that worship him and defile others and themselves in his name, they show it off and do it right in front of us and God because the Devil loves Blaspheme. I'm sorry to those who don't agree with me, but I wish you would. Seriously, read the bible up and down, back and forth, talk to Him, you'll get it.
And to those that get it but turn to this sick life, there's a song you should hear made just for you from Eminem (trust him, he's been there, seen it, done that) called "No Love." And if you don't like that one check out Lil Wayne's (ft. Eminem) title "Drop the World."
He's coming, prepare yourselves, please.
I'd like to meet you all one day and when there's eternal life I'll have the time, but I can't meet you there if you don't get it.
Wake up.
"Don't be afraid, Where one is, so is the other"


My friend, there are two things we are to love, and to love IS worship.

1. God - Everything, this existence.
2. Your neighbor. anyone outside you body.

All else is material and irrelevant. Some have been blinded by the material things that our system has given us. Do not judge harshly the blind simply because they have fallen. Love them. They are your family. Be there when they are ready to get back up. Do not mock them because they are down.

If you had been born in their shoes and suffered the same temptations they had, YOU might be walking the very same path as them.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by TheFuzzMonster
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Agreed, however, you might want to do your research, the anti-christ isn't something people become through ignorance but rather the worship of Satan (the god of this world). Many people offer things that don't belong to them up to him and he accepts it, in return they get money, fame, etc. (not Eternal Life though, and that's what you're really supposed to want right?). There are groups, (and 1 big one, You know who I'm talking about) that worship him and defile others and themselves in his name, they show it off and do it right in front of us and God because the Devil loves Blaspheme. I'm sorry to those who don't agree with me, but I wish you would. Seriously, read the bible up and down, back and forth, talk to Him, you'll get it.
And to those that get it but turn to this sick life, there's a song you should hear made just for you from Eminem (trust him, he's been there, seen it, done that) called "No Love." And if you don't like that one check out Lil Wayne's (ft. Eminem) title "Drop the World."
He's coming, prepare yourselves, please.
I'd like to meet you all one day and when there's eternal life I'll have the time, but I can't meet you there if you don't get it.
Wake up.
"Don't be afraid, Where one is, so is the other"


My friend, there are two things we are to love, and to love IS worship.

1. God - Everything, this existence.
2. Your neighbor. anyone outside you body.

All else is material and irrelevant. Some have been blinded by the material things that our system has given us. Do not judge harshly the blind simply because they have fallen. Love them. They are your family. Be there when they are ready to get back up. Do not mock them because they are down.

If you had been born in their shoes and suffered the same temptations they had, YOU might be walking the very same path as them.

With Love,

Your Brother


Really ? walking in their shoes ? How far are you going to take that ? I believe in family and friends and doing the right thing. If I have a family heirloom handed down to me ( a possession -- evil according to you ) I will take pride in the said heirloom, for it was handed down to me with pride. Because someones life was sub-par at best, that is no excuse for them to act without respect. Many people grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Many people were in a situation of blood, dying and war. Many of those people, were good people and remained so.

Once again, if you follow the bible, you would know pushing god like a drug is a sin upon itself.

Read your history....



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Lucifer777

Originally posted by IAMIAMThe God you follow is nothing if it is not Loving, for to hate would be a self hating God.


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

www.evilbible.com...

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19

If the Biblical deity is loving, this love seems only to apply to members of his ancient tribe. If there are any towns where there is even a single person who does not revere the ancient tribal deity of the Israelites, and who evangelises for a different deity, the entire town is to be subjected to genocide and all the livestock are to be slaughtered. Hardly very "loving."

Lucifer


My friend, a lot of things have been attributed to God in the old testament that were really only attributable to human ego. I look at the Old testament as nothing more than Man's growing understanding of God. Originally it was a benevolent creator. As Man grew attached to the material world, his definition of God became more angry and sinister.

Jesus came to set the record straight once and for all.

Lets apply logic here. If you do not believe in God, humor me for a moment

God is Omnipotent - All Powerful
God is Omnipresent - Everywhere
God is Omniscient - All Knowing
God is Omnibenevolent - All Good

God creates Man and endows him with his own free will.

God is everywhere so he is within Man. Remember he breathed life into Adam.
God is all knowing so he KNOWS exactly what man is going to do through out time.
God is all powerful so though he gave man free will, he still has other powers to guide man to do what is right.
God is all good So he cannot choose one Man over another. He would be deciding against himself (he is in man) and cannot do it!

God cannot do any evil to one man as punishment. He would be doing it to himself. Fortunately, we do not live forever, yet.

If we did not die, some would be in torment by other men forever. So, we fortunately have a life span while we learn to use our free will and live together lovingly.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by VI0811
Really ? walking in their shoes ? How far are you going to take that ? I believe in family and friends and doing the right thing. If I have a family heirloom handed down to me ( a possession -- evil according to you ) I will take pride in the said heirloom, for it was handed down to me with pride. Because someones life was sub-par at best, that is no excuse for them to act without respect. Many people grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Many people were in a situation of blood, dying and war. Many of those people, were good people and remained so.

Once again, if you follow the bible, you would know pushing god like a drug is a sin upon itself.

Read your history....


I have taken the walking in another's shoes to the straight edge of the abyss of many souls. I know what makes people do the things they do. It is because they do not know any different with provable results. Self worth has been shattered and many wrestle demons unimaginable to others. You may have such things in your past, and now that you have conquered them by suppressing them, you feel it is the right thing to distance yourself from others who are not as strong.

Do what you will. It is your life. You have your own baggage from it. No one here is trying to change your mind or your heart. I simply present the information, and you decide if it has merit.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by Lucifer777

Originally posted by IAMIAMThe God you follow is nothing if it is not Loving, for to hate would be a self hating God.


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

www.evilbible.com...

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19

If the Biblical deity is loving, this love seems only to apply to members of his ancient tribe. If there are any towns where there is even a single person who does not revere the ancient tribal deity of the Israelites, and who evangelises for a different deity, the entire town is to be subjected to genocide and all the livestock are to be slaughtered. Hardly very "loving."

Lucifer


My friend, a lot of things have been attributed to God in the old testament that were really only attributable to human ego. I look at the Old testament as nothing more than Man's growing understanding of God. Originally it was a benevolent creator. As Man grew attached to the material world, his definition of God became more angry and sinister.

Jesus came to set the record straight once and for all.

Lets apply logic here. If you do not believe in God, humor me for a moment

God is Omnipotent - All Powerful
God is Omnipresent - Everywhere
God is Omniscient - All Knowing
God is Omnibenevolent - All Good

God creates Man and endows him with his own free will.

God is everywhere so he is within Man. Remember he breathed life into Adam.
God is all knowing so he KNOWS exactly what man is going to do through out time.
God is all powerful so though he gave man free will, he still has other powers to guide man to do what is right.
God is all good So he cannot choose one Man over another. He would be deciding against himself (he is in man) and cannot do it!

God cannot do any evil to one man as punishment. He would be doing it to himself. Fortunately, we do not live forever, yet.

If we did not die, some would be in torment by other men forever. So, we fortunately have a life span while we learn to use our free will and live together lovingly.

With Love,

Your Brother


Old Testament, So, they had to write a new book to hide ?? what ? Please do your historical research. Once again, the bible itself ( not the new testament which is a joke ) is a full of tidbits of actual history. You can't deny written history. God did bot breath life into the Adam. God created "the" adam.

God can't do evil? Their are many biblical references to god putting forth punishment in the name of righteousness. A true god, would not do anything, he would never cross the line of free will. Ever. You alone, choose how you want to be.
edit on 9-2-2011 by VI0811 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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It would appear that the system needs restructuring - muy pronto. That is the job of any so-called anti-christ.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by RANDOMguess
Seriously where do you find the crap when will people stop guessing and then imparting the information on everyone else like its fact. All people have ever done is guess, think about it if we were suppose to know god exists we would be born with the information.


EXACTLY! You were born with this information! When you were born you were utterly dependant on others for your survival. You needed food, you needed shelter, you needed care, you needed LOVE. Humans have the longest gestation period of any other animal. That is to say we need our parents for longer than any other animal. The reason is to teach us to love each other to survive. We are not born with claws, fur, fangs, or any other natural weapon. We NEED each other!

Well said my friend.


Originally posted by RANDOMguess
That is the only fair way to do it, you can twist it up in your head and say its a test, or its to cover everyone's needs but when did normal logic stop being used...

And you put your face too close to the camera in your picture, makes you look seriously happy and makes me feel like your watching me. No being mean just helping a BROTHER out.


I am just reminding you of the simple truth we have forgotten since birth. Some have never learned because they were born in an uncaring, unloving, animalistc environment.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by VI0811
Really ? walking in their shoes ? How far are you going to take that ? I believe in family and friends and doing the right thing. If I have a family heirloom handed down to me ( a possession -- evil according to you ) I will take pride in the said heirloom, for it was handed down to me with pride. Because someones life was sub-par at best, that is no excuse for them to act without respect. Many people grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Many people were in a situation of blood, dying and war. Many of those people, were good people and remained so.

Once again, if you follow the bible, you would know pushing god like a drug is a sin upon itself.

Read your history....


I have taken the walking in another's shoes to the straight edge of the abyss of many souls. I know what makes people do the things they do. It is because they do not know any different with provable results. Self worth has been shattered and many wrestle demons unimaginable to others. You may have such things in your past, and now that you have conquered them by suppressing them, you feel it is the right thing to distance yourself from others who are not as strong.

Do what you will. It is your life. You have your own baggage from it. No one here is trying to change your mind or your heart. I simply present the information, and you decide if it has merit.

With Love,

Your Brother


Do you know me? What have I suppressed ? What souls are you talking about ? What abyss. Explain how you are so righteous to have had been so close to the bottom, that it makes you better than everyone else. I suppress nothing. My experiences in life make me who I am. I don't walk in other people's shoes. Why ? cause they don't fit. If people need help of need to talk about their experiences, I will help or listen.

If you truly follow the bible, you wouldn't be pushing god like a drug. Why don't you tell me, where in the bible, that quatrain is ....... because, its in there ...



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenCircles
I thought that it didn't matter where you worshipped.
I thought that all that mattered was what is in your heart, and if you accepted and believed within your heart.
If what I thought is true, then why would it matter where I worshipped?


To love is to WORSHIP.

Perhaps if I asked the question this way, it would make more sense to you:

Where do you LOVE?

Does that clarify my meaning my friend?

With Love,

Your Brother
edit on 9-2-2011 by IAMIAM because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by VI0811
Do you know me? What have I suppressed ? What souls are you talking about ? What abyss. Explain how you are so righteous to have had been so close to the bottom, that it makes you better than everyone else. I suppress nothing. My experiences in life make me who I am. I don't walk in other people's shoes. Why ? cause they don't fit. If people need help of need to talk about their experiences, I will help or listen.

If you truly follow the bible, you wouldn't be pushing god like a drug. Why don't you tell me, where in the bible, that quatrain is ....... because, its in there ...


1. I NEVER said I was better than anyone. We are all equals.
2. I NEVER said I was righteous.

These are values YOU are putting on my words.

3. I never said that I know you. I would like to though.


Number three is my point to everything. We should ALL want to know each other. Then we can help carry each others burdens and they will be lighter.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by VI0811
Old Testament, So, they had to write a new book to hide ?? what ? Please do your historical research. Once again, the bible itself ( not the new testament which is a joke ) is a full of tidbits of actual history. You can't deny written history. God did bot breath life into the Adam. God created "the" adam.

God can't do evil? Their are many biblical references to god putting forth punishment in the name of righteousness. A true god, would not do anything, he would never cross the line of free will. Ever. You alone, choose how you want to be.


If you already have your mind made up on these things my friend, that is fine by me. I am not trying to change your mind. Keep your opinions. If what you know as the "truth" brings you peace, joy, and love for all, keep it.

Judge not, Love all, be at peace.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Yeah, ya kind of missed the point of this whole piece. Try reading it again.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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As a young child i asked myself if there is a god why does he allow war and famines to happen ?
26 years later now in my 33 rd year on this planet and after nearly a decade of research , i have realised , this is not anyones fault but that of tptb who ACT like Gods and decide the fate of everyone of us
We are not in just a physical war now , were in a war for minds ,
tptb want you soldiers and the police etc to do the work of the devil , there will be a point unless we wake up and all unite where you will be expected to choose sides choose to protect the elite or us the people your neighbours and family .
The time will come unfortunately .
Divided we will fall .



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by VI0811
Old Testament, So, they had to write a new book to hide ?? what ? Please do your historical research. Once again, the bible itself ( not the new testament which is a joke ) is a full of tidbits of actual history. You can't deny written history. God did bot breath life into the Adam. God created "the" adam.

God can't do evil? Their are many biblical references to god putting forth punishment in the name of righteousness. A true god, would not do anything, he would never cross the line of free will. Ever. You alone, choose how you want to be.


If you already have your mind made up on these things my friend, that is fine by me. I am not trying to change your mind. Keep your opinions. If what you know as the "truth" brings you peace, joy, and love for all, keep it.

Judge not, Love all, be at peace.

With Love,

Your Brother



You've made up your mind as well. Your obviously not going to do your historical research.
By saying you've walked in others shoes and shared their burdens, you are automatically implying judgment and preaching righteousness to those who have not done what you have done. If you don't see this, then your no better than the ones you are trying to convert with your "pushing god like a drug" tactics.

Share burdens ? No. If the situation affects many, than the many can help each other out. If they seek outside help, help can be provided. However, personal burdens and hurdles, are what makes us who we are. We need our burdens, we need our hurdles. Its choice to share those or not. NOT required by God or anyone else .... Nor does it automatically make someone an anti-christ if they so choose not to know everyone and their burdens.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Very nicely done. I agree 100%. Another thing you can use to help people understand this is to have them research the word "anti-christ". Interestingly it NEVER appears in the Book of Revelation. It can ONLY be found 2 places in the bible. 1st and 2nd John. When read in context it is without question not meant to be thought of as a single individual, but rather, just as you have said, its an attitude. To read the text literally John is suggesting that the members of this particular church who have started to deny the teachings of Christ, have become "anti-christs".
The word has never refered to a coming person who is the opposite of Christ, but has ALWAYS referred to ANYONE who denies Christs Teachings.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Archangelelijah
All relegions are beliveing in a higher energy other than man! This is the positive aspect of each and everyone of us in love, communication and understanding!


I can agree with this.


Originally posted by Archangelelijah
We have got to where we are today by thinking of eachother in spirituality, people operate with money but this assists everything we have achieved in life through the hard work and labour of every individual who ever lived!


How did we go from being spiritual to money? Money is NOT of the spirit.


Originally posted by Archangelelijah
Mangod is the physical God of man in learning! God is our journey of spirituality in learning like a child attending school. We all love each other spirituality because we are all in the same boat of life experienceing the same circumstances which is our free will!


God is learning? Then God is not Omniscient-all knowing?
If we all loved each other, why do we sit back while our family starves, suffers from wars and disease? Why do we not take the time to heal one another?


Originally posted by Archangelelijah
God is everywhere! We live in Eden or Mother nature which is Earth and thought of learning which Satan gave us in the form of the serpent! This is the 3rd dimension my friend of fuel, heat and oxygen which is fire! Every living species on earth is this including tree and grass growth. This is our external energy which is negative! Our internal energy of Mind, Heart and Soul is nine times as strong which is our positive spirit in life and death!


I tried to decipher what you were trying to say here my friend. I could not make heads nor tales of it. Truth is simple enough for a child to understand. This is convoluted, distorted, and makes no sense.


Originally posted by Archangelelijah
You have knowledge from the serpent in the way of words and communication. Understand the bible and religion and you will understand. You preach information which is good but not correct.


You are still not making any sense.


Originally posted by Archangelelijah
God is the fourth dimension of life in the form of the supernatural! Reverse Live in the english language and lived! What do you get?


No problem my friend. We follow a different idea of God. You see him as something to get to. I see him as EVERYWHERE.

The lesser can never be the Greater my friend. If your God isn't everywhere, you are in for disappointment.


Originally posted by Archangelelijah
We all feed the starving children through donations of the human spirit which donates money to the poor! Money was formed on the ethic of hard work and labour of all men and women in jobs and war to create peace!


Ah, I thought Ethiopia still had a hunger problem.


Originally posted by Archangelelijah
Understand the system and where money came from to support all people and you will understand the Truth! You preach words with no evidence! The words you preach are positive but understand our system!


No offence intended my friend, but I do not want your truth. You can keep it, but it is not for me.

I am here to take the system down that you cherish.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Greetings.

I have issue with much of what you have stated because logically it is a bit flawed.

Also, I have been skimming through this thread and it does seem you are following a dogma that you perceive to know everything – thus answering for God, and judging others (making you part of your anti-Christ philosophy).

On several occasions – you reference Adam and Eve, a story penned by the Hebrews of old which existed long before Judaic beliefs (when Judaism was polytheistic), a story that is now used by Evangelical Christians as the creation story of humanity. While I am not Jewish, Christian nor any sect of religion applicable to man (I am agnostic) – I have studied world religions in great detail. The Jewish people (who wrote this story) do not believe it to be a creation story, but rather a fable of wise trickery. The snake in the Garden of Eden is actually not Satan, but named Nechushtan.

Nechushtan is an ancient pre-Judaic god and his name is derived from two Hebrew words “Nechash” (snake or serpent in English) and “Nechoshet” (meaning bronze or copper). Way back in the day Nechustan was revered as being wise - and was respected for 'his' high intelligence.

For the common reader of your thread, who does not know of the origins of much of their bible – I can see where your philosophy would come into play and perhaps excite them. To me, you not understanding the very book that you quote and thus judging people as “the anti-Christ” being within them certainly puts that judgment upon yourself.

While Christ was of peace, love, he also was judging people – so when you say that people need to live their lives like Christ, it kind of negates your ideology.



My friend, Christs two great commandments were to Love God with all your being, and your neighbor as yourself. All else is commentary on how to get to Heaven, and how to do these two commandments.

Love is the law.


You know who else stated “Love is the Law”? Aleister Crowley. :shk:

I would love to know your views on what I have stated, but I am sure it will only become a circle of futile argumentation.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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While Christ was of peace, love, he also was judging people


Sorry but this is a bit flawed. Judge not so that you yourself will not be judged.

A sad attempt to dissect and diminish a wonderful and much needed message.

And I say this with the utmost respect and consideration for your position.

I judge because I am so far from perfect...but if I were I would not judge either.



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