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posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon

Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
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his teachings have already affected you... akragon

i am not surprised to see this coming, to be honest. sad to see it happen however.

i am done here; you have seen the trial and proof.
it is up for you decide, and the question is simple: will you follow your christ, or THE CHRIST.


noo my friend you are sorely mistaken...

No one teaches me, i teach myself... What he says in his posts have more truth then any preacher or minister i've heard from... How do i know this? Because i've studied Jesus' teachings for many years...

I've challenged the beliefs of priests, and pastors... they have no answers.

IAM knows love from what i've seen in his threads, and you'll find that i've read them all... I don't agree with everything he says, but definatly more so then any christian i've met.

Again, you should check yourself.... Read his threads before you judge this man.... Or better yet, don't judge him at all.... let his words happen if they are meant to.


it really irritates me when people infer what i do not imply...
guess that is a problem that stems from my way of speaking...

if his teachings have not affected you; why do you stand up for this man? why do you come to his side?
is he not a man that can defend himself? which he did poorly btw.

and i have checked his previous and its true to this day, that ever since i came on to these forums, IAMIAM "teachings" irritate my heart.

the concept of being more true is asinine and an oxymoron:

if something is true, how can something be MORE true?

and the truth has been perverted.

there is a difference between THE TRUTH and HIS TRUTH.

its either wrong or right; for those that see, it is black and white.




posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
"King of the Earth" hunh??..
..(how did I know this was coming up?)


I laughed as well when it was told to me my friend. I did not choose this name. It was given me.

If you had read any of my threads, you will see that I do not consider it to be a title which elevates me over anyone. Merely a simple statement of fact as to who we ALL are.



Originally posted by gabby2011
I will stick to calling you "delusional " for the time being, considering you said I could call you what I will.


Delusional works fine for me.

In my world, delusional now means "King of the Earth".

Good enough?

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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I disagree...

He preaches love for all man... that is truth my friend... like it or not.

I defend him because i agree with most of what he says... Love your neighour, and love God who is within your neighbour... that is his message, and that is also mine.

Unfortunatly im not quite as eloquent as he is, but i make my point when i need to.




posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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I also am not Christian, but i garentee i know more about Jesus then most of the ones who proclaim that title... Considering prostitution is litterally one of the worlds oldest professions... whos to say its not part of "Gods plan"? If one choses to partake in such activities then that is their issue not mine... Also considering it says in the bible that stoning people to death, and rape and torture has technically been part of Gods plan in the past... and even today. And mary was supposedly a prostitute... I would question any christian who claims to know "Gods plan" anyways...


News flash...you don't know more about Jesus than most Christians....I can guarantee myself that.

and because mary magdelane was a prostitute..does not mean she stayed a prostitute..what don't you get about that.

Your both delusional on what jesus and actions meant..and as far as Gods plans go.. I'll leave that up to God..



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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I also am not Christian, but i garentee i know more about Jesus then most of the ones who proclaim that title... Considering prostitution is litterally one of the worlds oldest professions... whos to say its not part of "Gods plan"? If one choses to partake in such activities then that is their issue not mine... Also considering it says in the bible that stoning people to death, and rape and torture has technically been part of Gods plan in the past... and even today. And mary was supposedly a prostitute... I would question any christian who claims to know "Gods plan" anyways...


News flash...you don't know more about Jesus than most Christians....I can guarantee myself that.

and because mary magdelane was a prostitute..does not mean she stayed a prostitute..what don't you get about that.

Your both delusional on what jesus and actions meant..and as far as Gods plans go.. I'll leave that up to God..





Again i disagree, and i've proven that fact many times on these forums...

Believe whatever you like, but sadly christians do not know Jesus... They believe what others tell them to believe for the most part...

Either way make your judgements against both of us... it does not affect me in the least.




posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
and because mary magdelane was a prostitute..does not mean she stayed a prostitute..what don't you get about that.

Your both delusional on what jesus and actions meant..and as far as Gods plans go.. I'll leave that up to God..


Well at least you agree that she WAS a prostitute.

Now having said that, how do you suppose Christ changed her heart?

A. By preaching to her how evil she was and that she would go to hell if she did not repent and do what he said.

B. Threatening to burn her at the stake.

C. By public stoning.

D. By loving her when all others regarded her as worthless thereby giving her the self worth and confidence she needed to seek to do something more fulfilling with her life.

E. A,B,C!!!! It is in the Bible that that should be done!

With Love,

Your Brother
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posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Again i disagree, and i've proven that fact many times on these forums... Believe whatever you like, but sadly christians do not know Jesus... They believe what others tell them to believe for the most part... Either way make your judgements against both of us... it does not affect me in the least.


You really think much to highly of yourself.. if you actually think you have proven any fact on this forum..

Many Christians know Jesus.. and those that are lead by the Holy Spirit can see clearly what are false teachings..

Do Christians fall short , and sin..yes.. but that doesn't mean they don't know the difference between a false teaching.. and the words of Christ.

Continue to deceive yourself into thinking you have proven anything of merit ...for those that believe what others would tell them..are only fools as you say.. and fools believe fools..



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Well at least you agree that she WAS a prostitute.


its a known fact of the bible..



D. By loving her when all others regarded her as worthless thereby giving her the self worth and confidence she needed to seek to do something more fulfilling with her life.


yes..by loving her..and forgiving her....NOT by saying prostitution was part of gods plan...or by having any sexual relations with her.



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posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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Again i disagree, and i've proven that fact many times on these forums... Believe whatever you like, but sadly christians do not know Jesus... They believe what others tell them to believe for the most part... Either way make your judgements against both of us... it does not affect me in the least.


You really think much to highly of yourself.. if you actually think you have proven any fact on this forum..

Many Christians know Jesus.. and those that are lead by the Holy Spirit can see clearly what are false teachings..

Do Christians fall short , and sin..yes.. but that doesn't mean they don't know the difference between a false teaching.. and the words of Christ.

Continue to deceive yourself into thinking you have proven anything of merit ...for those that believe what others would tell them..are only fools as you say.. and fools believe fools..



I would consider proof on these forums to be when you end a thread... meaning no one has any answers to the questions you ask...

I don't hold myself higher then any man... all are equal.

I didn't say all christians don't understand Jesus, theres many of them... and many still "wake up" every single day... It was a general statement... The ones that deny his words are easily flushed out of a crowd...

I don't consider myself a christian because of the churches and what they bring into the world...

And unlike christians, i don't follow Jesus... He walks with me every day...




posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
yes..by loving her..and forgiving her....NOT by saying prostitution was part of gods plan...or by having any sexual relations with her.


Well there you go adding your own mind to scripture when I summed it up precisely. No where does it say he did not sleep with her.

NO WHERE!

You added that because of your own concept of righteousness.

Jesus very well may have slept with her. He may have married her. Or he may not have done either. Scripture is SILENT on this regard, and so should you be.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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I don't consider myself a christian because of the churches and what they bring into the world... And unlike christians, i don't follow Jesus... He walks with me every day...


Trust me..there is as much evil and sin out of churches as there is in them. They are not responsible for all the garbage in this world.

You may think Jesus walks beside you.. but He actually could be carrying with his grace..until you wake up enough to follow him.



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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Well there you go adding your own mind to scripture when I summed it up precisely. No where does it say he did not sleep with her. NO WHERE!


and no where does it say he didn't sleep with all twelve apostles.. so I guess we should be unsure about that as well?


save it..I really don't want to hear any more false concepts from you..I can totally see what you are all about.. and will keep you in my prayers.



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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I don't consider myself a christian because of the churches and what they bring into the world... And unlike christians, i don't follow Jesus... He walks with me every day...


Trust me..there is as much evil and sin out of churches as there is in them. They are not responsible for all the garbage in this world.

You may think Jesus walks beside you.. but He actually could be carrying with his grace..until you wake up enough to follow him.



Oh but they are more then responsible for much of the issues in this world... and not just the churches of Christianity, but all religions...

My friend...

He walks with me every day, i know this...

And in the hardest times of my life, he has carried me...

When you follow anyone you can fall victim to his other followers words...



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
save it..I really don't want to hear any more false concepts from you..I can totally see what you are all about.. and will keep you in my prayers.


I really do not understand the madness that has taken hold of you and others like you.

You come into my threads to vehemently disagree with me. When you are exhausted of the ridicule you keep coming back saying "I don't want to hear any more!".

In the interest of Brotherly love I will attempt to cure your affliction.

You DO want to hear more my friend. It is madness to say other wise.

Why?

Because YOU keep coming here to MY thread.

You keep coming here to read my words.

The only way you will ever hear them is if you come here and read them.

Get control over yourself.

Stop going to listen to what you do not wish to hear!

Be healed!

I did not summon you.

I have not sent one of my demons to possess you and guide you here.

You came of your own accord.

You read of your own volition.

The voice in your head is your own.

Please do not further your madness by replying to this post. It will only reveal the truth of your madness and your secret desire to hear what I say.

I won't pray for you.

You are doing marvelously playing the part that God has chosen for you. If it is HIS will, may you be given the sight you crave.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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You come into my threads to vehemently disagree with me. When you are exhausted of the ridicule you keep coming back saying "I don't want to hear any more!".


In your mind you may think you have ridiculed me.. when all you've done is proven me correct in my judgement of your teachings and hypocrisies.

Your ego is blinding you to the truth..

no..you did not summon me.. but I came in defense of the words and teachings of Christ.. who you claim to be speaking on behalf of.

I will leave you to your false teachings and the twistings of Christs words..and keep you in my prayers.







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posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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You come into my threads to vehemently disagree with me. When you are exhausted of the ridicule you keep coming back saying "I don't want to hear any more!".


In your mind you may think you have ridiculed me.. when all you've done is proven me correct in my judgement of your teachings and hypocrisies.

I will leave you to your false teachings and the twistings of Christs words..and keep you in my prayers.

Your ego is blinding you to the truth..







Could you show me what "false teachings" you're refering to?




posted on Nov, 27 2011 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
In your mind you may think you have ridiculed me.. when all you've done is proven me correct in my judgement of your teachings and hypocrisies.


I did not say that I ridiculed you. I have no intention of ridiculing you.


Originally posted by gabby2011
Your ego is blinding you to the truth..


Still want to hear me then? Good. I'll keep talking. Maybe in time I will find the words that make sense to you.



Originally posted by gabby2011
no..you did not summon me.. but I came in defense of the words and teachings of Christ.. who you claim to be speaking on behalf of.

I will leave you to your false teachings and the twistings of Christs words..and keep you in my prayers.


Ok fair enough. What have I taught that you find as false?

You have the podium. What have I said pertaining to Christ that you feel is a false teaching?

Please quote me directly and provide the scripture that refutes my erroneous teaching.

Please leave Paul at home. I do not get into his work, only that which was spoken by Christ himself.

Your floor, lets see what I have done so wrong.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Excellent thread IAMIAM, excellent...
Commendable...

Akushla



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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Ok fair enough. What have I taught that you find as false? You have the podium. What have I said pertaining to Christ that you feel is a false teaching?


I've already pointed those out.. but once more.. the statement about Christ never judging...yes he judged the religious hypocrites.


"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:1-6 RSV)


Also what i found most troubling and directly opposed to what Christ teaches.. is the insinuations that he did not judge lust..when in fact he said these words about lust..


“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Mt 5:27-28).


So..from Christs own lips we see that he indeed think adultery was a sin..not only in the flesh.. but in the heart and mind as well.

I will not try to convince you that you do not speak for Christ....but it is apparent by the way you have tried to twist the meanings of his words.

You tell people not to judge.. but yet if anyone disagrees with you.. its ok to for you to judge them .



posted on Nov, 28 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
I've already pointed those out.. but once more.. the statement about Christ never judging...yes he judged the religious hypocrites.


"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:1-6 RSV)


Ok I see where we are having a disconnect. Christ Judged no man. He said so and it is truth. This is my point and always has been.

However, Christ did judge TITLES, and so have I, and so will I again and again.

Example - Pharisees are hypocrites. Why?

Because Pharisees claim to be the direct link to God whereas any man has a direct link to God. The body of Men who wear the TITLE of Pharisee are the hypocrites. If you do not want to fall into that category of being judged, simply give up the title of Pharisee and join the Brotherhood of Man. The judgement is binding on the title, not the man. Understand?



Originally posted by gabby2011
Also what i found most troubling and directly opposed to what Christ teaches.. is the insinuations that he did not judge lust..when in fact he said these words about lust..


“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Mt 5:27-28).


So..from Christs own lips we see that he indeed think adultery was a sin..not only in the flesh.. but in the heart and mind as well.


Again, he was pointing out how rediculous it was to hold someone in sin for doing with their flesh what the judges willing do with their hearts and mind. He was pointing out the hypocrisy.


Originally posted by gabby2011
I will not try to convince you that you do not speak for Christ....but it is apparent by the way you have tried to twist the meanings of his words.

You tell people not to judge.. but yet if anyone disagrees with you.. its ok to for you to judge them .


I will not try to convince you either my friend. The text can be taken either way. You decide how you wish to interpret it. Feel free to disagree, but I will keep my own understanding thank you.

Christ bears witness to my statements, for he is with the father and the father is within me. If you can say the same, and your understanding brings you peace, joy, and love for all, then keep it.

With Love,

Your Brother









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