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ACLU staffer said she witnessed deputies beating inmate at Twin Towers

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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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I want to believe that there are good cops out there, but i have lived in this crooked town for so long, and been a victim so many times, that i just stay far, far away from them and assume they are all sadistic. Risk management.

I have a cynical view, because of my own experience (i am a law abiding person, for the sake of simplicity, and have few causes for police interaction....so for it to have gone to bad so often is a red flag for me). But my view is that it is human nature to misuse authority. Police are given enormous authority. So much so that, in a court of law, their word is gold and yours is not. They are elevated to something viewed as superior to human, and often (in polite company) if you bring up distaste for them you will be ostracized and treated poorly. There is a whole social peer pressure in place that says they are some heroes that sacrifice their safety, instead of people who have chosen that job, and get paid for it.

If the police had fewer laws to enforce, they would be less problematic for The People. That is the real problem. And, by the very nature of their job, they are there to forcibly invoke their morals on me, using violence if necessary. I have a hard time coming to terms with what kind of person it takes to feel that they should perpetuate this tyranny.




posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Yea, the shear amount of kids that go missing each year is astounding and Im not talking about
the father/mother custody kidnapping issues.
Its just always made me wonder why the media focuses on one particular case and they get all of the funding, donations, etc.. when on that particular day, there were several other kids taken.

Do they choose them at random or are their parents someone special?





If the police had fewer laws to enforce


And thats half the problem (maybe)
There are either to many laws for the cops to keep up with, so they run everyone in, just in case..
OR they are told to run everyone they stop in, regardless of what they think.. ( see the threads about the corporation that the judicial system has become)
edit on 8-2-2011 by Animatrix because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Thankyou friend , checking the threads now .



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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IMO the very fact that she works for the ACLU discredits her.

Talk about creating your own job security when all you have to do is say "I work for hte ACLU and i saw those two cops beat up a guy"

and have no proof what so ever.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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I have a hard time believing that it is possible that this could happen with multiple cops on the scene for many reasons. #1 most cops are good, and they wouldn't allow it, and they wouldn't allow their buddies to get in trouble for it


BULLBUTTER . There were MULTIPLE cops on the scene when Rodney King got the crap beat out of him . There were MULTIPLE cops on the scene when the young man in Houston got the crap stomped out of him , here recently .

And I'm sure that a moderate Google search would provide further proof that your reasoning is totally false . Multiple cops on the scene , only means one thing , and that is , that there are MULTIPLE cops who are going to be kicking the crap out of you .

How about showing us some videos where there are multiple cops on the scene when someone is getting the crap beat out of them , and JUST ONE of those MULTIPLE cops , is actually attempting to stop the other cops from abusing their power .

I find your statement totally absurd , as most cops DO NOT stand up against fellow cops , as this is taboo in their little club .

Where is the evidence to support your claim , as compared to the evidence that constantly refutes such an absurd notion ?



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Moral of the story, it happens commonly, and in most cases it is well-deserved


The only "moral" to your statement , is that you have no morals when it comes to cops versus non-cops .

Cops are held to higher standards than the average street-thug , and for you to even imply that a beat-down is "well-deserved" is assinine .

According to your line of reasoning , there are times that cops are exempt from following the letter of the law . Contrary to your opinion , cops are NOT above the law , in ANY circumstance .



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Animatrix
 


That is a little off-topic, but I totally agree. It should be a crime to put a Lindsay Lohen story ahead of 10,000 missing kid stories! The few that do make the MSM have a beautiful child, with attractive parents, usually with a little money, and they are the perfect combination of mad/sad/emotional.

Someone told me that Rush Limbaugh (whom I despise) actually said that his job wasn't to report the news, it was to sell advertising, and he was good at his job. I don't know if it is true that he said it, but it is definitely true of the entire news industry.

They don't care about stories, they care about attention. Attention = money.


See the irony here? You just used the same broad brush to paint the entire news industry that others are painting the LEOs with.

I'm a producer/director of a local news show for our local cable network and PBS affiliate. I can assure you that I don't do it for the money because all I get is an expense account for travel and food. I take my job very seriously and always try to deliver the story in true journalistic fashion. Who, what, when and where with no coloring of the event from my admitted liberal perspective. Professionalism at all costs is our creed.

I do plead guilty of liking the attention. Especially when we do documentaries of rock shows with all the pretty women that want to get on camera. You should see some of my footage; Damn near pornographic.

I also do training videos for our local sheriffs dept. so I know plenty of LEOs. There is a very pronounced "we/them" attitude that is almost the same as when I was in the military.

I suppose you would like to "finish me off" as well.
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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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With 800,000 law enforcement personnel working 8 hour shifts everyday and encountering at least 1 person per hour, that is at least 6.4 million encounters per day. Each of those encounters is a volatile and confrontational situation. Each of those encounters involves at least one armed person, and at least one person suspected of foul play and probably angry at being a suspect


This is the most ridiculous thing I have read today . For you to say that "each" of those encounters is a volatile and confrontational situation , is patently absurd .

To further state that each of those encounters involve "at least one armed person" is deceitful on your part , as I can clearly see that this is your way of baiting the readers here into arguing this point , so that you can conveniently come back and say that the cops are armed in each of these encounters . Nothing but a deceptive tactic on your part , as we all know that not all encounters involve citizens who are armed , but that the cops are always armed .

Each encounter has the "potential" to become volatile and confrontational , if you had've worded it that way , I would not have been able to argue against it .

As it stands , both of your above statements are deceptive and misleading .



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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It is not deceptive at all. Every time a LEO approaches a potential suspect or witness the situation is confrontational. Not necessarily violent, but definitely adversarial. It is pronouncedly different than being approached by a mail man or a hot dog vendor. Each and every encounter also has the added risk because we know the cop is lethally armed, and there is a chance that the other party may be armed as well, so the tension is much higher than a newspaper salesman happening across a hot dog vendor for instance.

Each and every encounter that an LEO has with anybody has an added risk of violence.

Even if the the officer just wants to ask where someone bought their shoes, there is potential that the other party has a warrant or a hatred for cops. Traffic stops are the most common, and should be the most routine, but they result in the most LEO deaths!

That was only one piece of the argument anyway, the main point was that we all know that there are literally millions of interactions between civilians and cops every day. Out of millions of interactions, the frequency of police brutality are relatively extremely low.

Think about it, millions of people take tylenol every day, and everyday several people will die from some odd reaction to it. Everyday people get relatively harmless bee stings, but some people die from it. Everyday millions of babies go to bed safely in their crib, but some of them get SIDS and don't wake up. There is always going to be a percentage of mishaps in any common occurrence. Encounters with police is no different.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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I think you got me there. I apologize.

Let me rephrase by saying all 24 hour cable news channels are motivated by money. There are surely some individuals, such as yourself, that are interested in reporting the truth, without color commentary, and I commend you for that! I wish there were more of you.

Check my profile, there is a thread about a local Florida man that is being entirely railroaded by the state and his local police and politicians, and there hasn't been a word about it, even on local news. I wish we had someone here that was willing to cover real news instead of just politics and murder mystery.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by okbmd
reply to post by getreadyalready
 



Moral of the story, it happens commonly, and in most cases it is well-deserved


The only "moral" to your statement , is that you have no morals when it comes to cops versus non-cops .

Cops are held to higher standards than the average street-thug , and for you to even imply that a beat-down is "well-deserved" is assinine .

According to your line of reasoning , there are times that cops are exempt from following the letter of the law . Contrary to your opinion , cops are NOT above the law , in ANY circumstance .


I agree that cops are held to a higher standard. So much so that their job is almost impossible. They literally have a split second to make a life or death decision that will take months and months of investigations and legal wranglings from highly educated lawyers and judges with the benefit of hindsight to wrestle out a conclusion about whether the decision was appropriate or not. Can you imagine facing that scrutiny everyday. Too much or too little involvement, dozens of times per day, can have catastrophic repercussions.

They make $30 to $40k per year here in my area, and only a high school diploma is required, but if they have to use force in the heat of the moment, there will be a team of high-priced attorneys with Law Degrees and PhD's and graphs and charts and statistics working out the details about how things should have gone down.

If a cop doesn't use enough force and someone dies or gets away, then the cop should have done more, if they use to much it is brutality.

And yes, my opinion might not be popular with everyone, but some of the thugs just plain deserve it, and I commend the people that give them what they deserve, cop or not. In these threads, I am always reminded of the show "Dexter." It is an extremely popular show, because so many people like seeing bad guys get what they deserve in a brutal and simple way. Court and jail is too good for some people.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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this very post is all an outsider really need read, with all of its replies, to get a feel for the general mentality of the population of this website.

It goes something like this:

"MSM says aliens are a hoax"

ATS Community - THATS BULL ****!!!!!!! GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!

"MSM says aliens real!"

ATS Community - WOO WHOO!! SEE? WE're not crazy - it's in the main stream media too!


"Cops beat man" (no proof what so ever)

ATS Community - stupid ****Ing pigs! We live in a police state!

"Officer found not guilty of inhumane beating"

ATS Community - See? This is whats wrong with the world, cops think they're above the law




I mean most of you people have ZERO standards what so ever, other than your own personal agendas.

It really is sad and pathetic.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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Not wanting to derail a thread and take it off topic so I will only say you are welcome for the links the first link is a great thread; I just wish I could find the other thread that I was really impressed with before. I love ATS but the search option is nothing more than a crap shoot most of the time.

The amount of kids that go missing each day astonishes me. How it does not become bigger news is beyond me. The closest thing I have ever seen aside from a few specials to trying to bring notice was Soul Asylum's video Runaway Train. I think many of the missing kids do runaway and end up victims of some sort. The video tries to bring this to light. Sadly many have forgotten the great video.

Raist



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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This is why we should be allowed to vote for members to become mods . The majority decides not the minority . As conspiracy researches know the higher up the pyramid you go you get less people ie minority , deciding the agenda of the Majority . The people at the bottom of the pyramid are vital for the minority in power to function as an organisation and they need to remember that .



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