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waking up - being awake - being enlightened - break it down - define it

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posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 03:35 AM
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So, some believe the enlightened only live in caves, lol.
Enlightenment means to see the truth, not run and hide away from the world.
It is the realization that 'this is it'. That there is no where to go and nothing to get.
Experience is what life is made of.




posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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no more questions that you can answer friend

Any more stupid answers?



posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by doubledutch
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no more questions that you can answer friend

Any more stupid answers?


The truth ain't all nice and cozy like you want. If your looking for something that you cant handle then don't look at all bro, because you might find it. If you cant take the heat get your ass out the kitchen.

And don't ask any questions that you don't want to know the answer to. That is the first rule in asking questions that is learned by everybody. And if you do so you wont have no problems in understanding your answers.

Have a nice day friend.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by galadofwarthethird

Originally posted by doubledutch
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no more questions that you can answer friend

Any more stupid answers?


The truth ain't all nice and cozy like you want. If your looking for something that you cant handle then don't look at all bro, because you might find it. If you cant take the heat get your ass out the kitchen.

And don't ask any questions that you don't want to know the answer to. That is the first rule in asking questions that is learned by everybody. And if you do so you wont have no problems in understanding your answers.

Have a nice day friend.


your weird analogy's and movie speak, street slang bullsh!t aren't making any sense... could you explain what you are talking about (and im not looking for cryptic ass over tit analogy's that mean nothing). to be clear im not looking for ascension, im looking for an understanding of ascension and 'being awake', which a lot of people have given the time to do so.

I asked the question because im looking for answers - the problem is yours don't make any sense, so if you have something to contribute, please do so, if not please leave the thread alone



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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Ok.

a) Genetic engineering
b) Artificial mind construct
c) Individuals:
i) Within the mind construct
ii) Outside of the mind construct



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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your weird analogy's and movie speak, street slang bullsh!t aren't making any sense... could you explain what you are talking about (and im not looking for cryptic ass over tit analogy's that mean nothing). to be clear im not looking for ascension, im looking for an understanding of ascension and 'being awake', which a lot of people have given the time to do so.


To understand about being "awake" is when you are actually awake. All the words in all the worlds will not give you a clear picture, and they will be meaningless. To even look for understanding by way of words for something that you have to feel and be there is folly. And ascension is pretty much the same as being awake, only different.

So you will never understand unless you do it and are in it. I could explain how it feels to jump off a plane all day long, or what if feels like to step on fire, but it will be just words. In till you do it and feel it and experience it and know, I mean really know not second hand knowledge and illusions. Then it wont mean nothing, and all the descriptions and words in the world are meaningless compared to the actual deal.

Do you see now how stupid your question is? You want to know and understand about something that requires actually experiencing it, without experiencing it.




I asked the question because im looking for answers - the problem is yours don't make any sense, so if you have something to contribute, please do so, if not please leave the thread alone


Seek and you shall find.
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posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
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your weird analogy's and movie speak, street slang bullsh!t aren't making any sense... could you explain what you are talking about (and im not looking for cryptic ass over tit analogy's that mean nothing). to be clear im not looking for ascension, im looking for an understanding of ascension and 'being awake', which a lot of people have given the time to do so.


To understand about being "awake" is when you are actually awake. All the words in all the worlds will not give you a clear picture, and they will be meaningless. To even look for understanding by way of words for something that you have to feel and be there is folly. And ascension is pretty much the same as being awake, only different.

So you will never understand unless you do it and are in it. I could explain how it feels to jump off a plane all day long, or what if feels like to step on fire, but it will be just words. In till you do it and feel it and experience it and know, I mean really know not second hand knowledge and illusions. Then it wont mean nothing, and all the descriptions and words in the world are meaningless compared to the actual deal.

Do you see now how stupid your question is? You want to know and understand about something that requires actually experiencing it, without experiencing it.




I asked the question because im looking for answers - the problem is yours don't make any sense, so if you have something to contribute, please do so, if not please leave the thread alone


Seek and you shall find.
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Thank you for finally making some sense

Did you read and understand the whole thread? The question about being awake isn't a stupid one. If you had read and understood the question you would have seen that what I was actually trying to understand was the different uses of the word 'awake' and where I fit into these defenitions.

For example some people here use the term 'awake' to describe being aware that our world is not what it seems - having there eyes opened to what is really going on. Not in a spiritual way but in a conspiratorial way - 9/11 was an inside job, our governments lie to us, the Illuminati is looking to decrease populations, haarp is creating earthquakes, the elite rule the world, we are just cattle etc etc.

Others use it to mean being spiritually awake and/or on the path to enlightenment. These are quite different things although one often leads to the other... as far as I can tell.

So how do you know that im not experiencing it/not awake? both examples I mean. How do you know that im not already awake, spiritually and conspiratorially? We are on a journey and as you can see by all of the answers here (apart from yours) people want to help other people on their way - help them to understand what this is all about without being arrogant or rude and without trying to make people look stupid - this is an old thread my friend with a lot of answers for those who are looking for them. It has certainly helped me answer some questions I had a while back

so which are you by the way? (I think I already know this, just wondering if you do)



posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by SystemResistor
Ok.

a) Genetic engineering
b) Artificial mind construct
c) Individuals:
i) Within the mind construct
ii) Outside of the mind construct



Interesting... could you elaborate please?

Thanks



posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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Knowing about the NWO plans might be construed as being 'awake' by many - but that is not it's proper meaning in any spiritual sense - and really means nothing.

Awake for me is to do with having a connection to your soul - it is rarely fooled by anything, it just knows what is what!

Enlightenment or 'illumination' - is a brain process to do with the crystalising/coherance of the mental body - and again does not really count for a lot.

What really counts is having your energy alligned with the proper cosmic order and the humans primary mission here - ie the 'correction' of Gaia/Sophia - doesn't really matter what you do with your mind if you havn't bought your energy along with you!

As for being an average worthwhile wholesome decent person citizen in an average modern society - umm actually that, in my humble opinion counts for far more than most people would ever suspect!



posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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The effect of the engineering is essentially that we are walking around with virtual reality goggles built-in to our brains.



From a "3D" to "4D" evolutionary perspective, the system actually allows the human being to rapidly evolve thier awareness and achieve levels of being that the average being would take millions of years of evolution to develop - however, the system has to have a set of rules as well as lessons so as to facilitate a proper evolution.

From a "4D" to "3D" perspective, the system is the remanants of a hyperdimensional "realm" that was created and has since "fallen" to a denser existence, and has existed in such a state for a considerable amount of time, so as to convince us that the reality we experience is "real" - when our real selves are "behind the mask" and when liberated, we are able to return to our natural plane of existence.
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posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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The only genuine, honest answer to the question is that awakening and enlightenment are experiences that are individual and can mean something different to whoever has said experience. There is a perspective to everything perceived dependent on who is perceiving it.

For myself, being awake is simply the realization that there is more to a given situation than what is perceived as "common" reality with common reality being the reality generally agreed upon by the masses wherein deviation is seen as abnormal and perhaps even psychotic (meaning a break from conventional reality); cold is cold, red is red, the grass is green, the sky is blue, the government will act in the interest of the people, etc. It is a state of perception.

Enlightenment is also a state of perception. My own perception was being able to feel the oneness of all things. Being aware of the fabric of the universe not as something everything is cut from but composed of. That's the only way I can describe it. But to me enlightenment is something more than that perception; it is something arising from that perception. In other words "enlightenment" is not simply what is seen, but what is felt. Being truly enlightened in my belief is relief from the cyclical burden of life, death, rebirth and the karma generated therein. A state in which one begins to shed the weight of one's karma. To be spiritually lighter.

Beyond that, it's up to you to discover what being "awakened" and being "enlightened" mean to you personally.



posted on Jul, 28 2011 @ 11:57 AM
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Thank you for finally making some sense Did you read and understand the whole thread?


More then you know. And I still stand by my earlier post in this thread, that being awake or the beginning of waking up is like a swift kick in the balls.



The question about being awake isn't a stupid one. If you had read and understood the question you would have seen that what I was actually trying to understand was the different uses of the word 'awake' and where I fit into these defenitions.


If you say so, I still think its a if not stupid question. At least a very annoying question.




For example some people here use the term 'awake' to describe being aware that our world is not what it seems - having there eyes opened to what is really going on. Not in a spiritual way but in a conspiratorial way - 9/11 was an inside job, our governments lie to us, the Illuminati is looking to decrease populations, haarp is creating earthquakes, the elite rule the world, we are just cattle etc etc.


Different people have different knowledge of the world, and hence different catalysts for there waking up. Different people are awake to different things. To grasp the whole of the everything is the path into the abyss. No one human can look into the abyss and remain sane or the same. And so different people are awaking to different realities, or to what there reality is actually like.



Others use it to mean being spiritually awake and/or on the path to enlightenment. These are quite different things although one often leads to the other... as far as I can tell.


They are all the same, people just use different words to describe the same things.



So how do you know that im not experiencing it/not awake? both examples I mean.

Because I am psychic....duh.



How do you know that im not already awake, spiritually and conspiratorially?

Because you ask weird questions, like how do I know that you are not already awake. It makes no sense to me, so why ask it. But whatever I quess asking weird questions is better then not asking at all.





We are on a journey and as you can see by all of the answers here (apart from yours) people want to help other people on their way - help them to understand what this is all about without being arrogant or rude and without trying to make people look stupid

You need to quit being so serious. I was not trying to insult anybody, I just got pissed off because of you questions, they were annoying.



this is an old thread my friend with a lot of answers for those who are looking for them. It has certainly helped me answer some questions I had a while back so which are you by the way?

I am like so awake, that its not even on the awake scale. I am like tottally awake, so awake in fact that I need to get me some sleep, and some of that blissful ignorance to go along with it.
zzzzzzzzz.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood

Knowing about the NWO plans might be construed as being 'awake' by many - but that is not it's proper meaning in any spiritual sense - and really means nothing.



Thanks you for your time on this. i agree and this is what I set out to figure out when I started this thread.




As for being an average worthwhile wholesome decent person citizen in an average modern society - umm actually that, in my humble opinion counts for far more than most people would ever suspect!



I couldn't agree more. Interestingly when I started this thread earlier this year i was striving for an awakening, I wanted to see through the foux world and see it for what it was, I wanted to be awake and to experience the universe as it really is. More recently I have just been living, but not as I used to but in a more holistic connected way. I no longer yurn for an awakening, I just am. I have realised I am a good person and I see lots of good people around me. I no longer moan and bitch and I no longer hate or fear. I just am and it's great. Maybe im awake maybe im not... I don't really care anymore, or sat least im not striving for or searching for it. life is amazing and im making the mosrt of it
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posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Thanks for spending the time to reply.

I love that episode of red dwarf, and seeing something like that as a metaphor for what you explain makes it much easier to grasp... thanks



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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Hi Doubledutch,
Here have a look at this, it is for you:
youtu.be...

Namaste.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 05:36 AM
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Thanks for this - interesting

i just replied to another poster but it fits here as well so ill double post it

"when I started this thread earlier this year i was striving for an awakening, I wanted to see through the foux world and see it for what it was, I wanted to be awake and to experience the universe as it really is. More recently I have just been living, but not as I used to but in a more holistic, connected way. I no longer yurn for an awakening, I just am. I have realised I am a good person and I see lots of good people around me. I no longer moan and bitch and I no longer hate or fear. I just am and it's great. Maybe im awake maybe im not... I don't really care anymore, or at least im not striving for or searching for it. life is amazing and im making the most of it "

that said i do still feel connected to the universe. i still see synchronicity all around me, I am still grateful for this amazing life and I still say thank you for everything I have... i guess if it happens it happens, if it's real it's real... either way im a better, more balanced person because of my journey and the things I have realised.

namaste

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posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 05:40 AM
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It was that post i was replying to, i thought it synchronicity, perfect for the occasion.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 05:43 AM
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Have a look at this if you have not seen it before;
youtu.be...
See how everyone is completely in the here and now together and the effect it has, almost orgasmic. I love to watch this it brings me to tears each time. Life is a feeling.
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posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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synchronicity indeed... I just edited it before seeing this post

thanks - ill watch that vid now
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posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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Have a look at this if you have not seen it before;
youtu.be...
See how everyone is completely in the here and now together and the effect it has, almost orgasmic. I love to watch this it brings me to tears each time. Life is a feeling.
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I have seen this before and it always has that effect on me too - I love to see things like this, and (as much as i hate reality tv) I have cried many times watching the x factor and BGT.

That sent shivers down my spine and had me clapping and cheering... brilliant!

it is indeed interesting how people feed off of and give out positive energy.

I was at a festival last weekend and had a very similer experience over the whole weekend. It was the way that everyone was in a really good space, and it's contagious. Everyone was in the hear and now (as you pointed out) together and I was high all weekend (no drugs needed or wanted) - it was amazing and I spent some time on my own just living it and feeling it. It was really amazing to be aware of it and to be part of it. Makes you realise how amazing this life is (gush gush)

Thanks
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