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All the things you didn't want to know...in your food, in your drinks, in your bathroom, and in you

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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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And yes,pseudotumor cerebri is directly linked to aspartame.




posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by TWILITE22
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I never said that it was the cause ,I said I was wondering could it have been the cause.What are you? a doctor?There are a lot of people on this site that answers post just to make themselves feel right about everything
what is up with that?Do you feel superior now that you have put me in my place?..........


It wasn't a dig at you. I was inferring from your post that you were incriminating aspartame as the cause for your cancer and was debating that point.

Not that it's relevant, but I am an organic chemist.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by TWILITE22
reply to post by TWILITE22
 
And yes,pseudotumor cerebri is directly linked to aspartame.



There is a reference for this I assume? I am generally interested, I'm not trying to dismiss your speculations on principle, it's just that I have seen no published, credible scientific literature to confirm these claims. If there is, I would like to see it.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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Alright guys we've gotten all this way without much bashing and arguing let's not get off in that direction plz keep it civil and not condescending.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by DragonSpirit2
Alright guys we've gotten all this way without much bashing and arguing let's not get off in that direction plz keep it civil and not condescending.


I really wasn't attempting to be condescending. I was debating. Sorry if that's how it came across.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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I was just saying not necessarily pointing you out directly hyper
And it's hard to interpret connotation and voice inflection through text so it's all about what people read into it just remember that. Someone is not necessarily insulting you or being condescending it's all about how YOU read it.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by hypervalentiodine

Originally posted by TWILITE22
reply to post by hypervalentiodine
 
I never said that it was the cause ,I said I was wondering could it have been the cause.What are you? a doctor?There are a lot of people on this site that answers post just to make themselves feel right about everything
what is up with that?Do you feel superior now that you have put me in my place?..........


It wasn't a dig at you. I was inferring from your post that you were incriminating aspartame as the cause for your cancer and was debating that point.

Not that it's relevant, but I am an organic chemist.
It wasn't cancer it was a benign tumor no known cause,no other symptoms pure speculation and reasonable speculation when there is no reason for a condition.I gave birth to this thing and that was that.But I do know my sons condition(psuedotumor cerebri) was directly linked to aspartame consupmtion(he was drinking a lot of diet soda)his condition has improved since he was taken off all artificial sweeteners,food inhancers dyes,and preservatives.When you come to my house to eat expect the basics,I buy free range meats fresh fruits(I do have an apple,pear and lemon and working on a orange)and veggies.I grew up eating all of these ,no pre-packaged anything my parents canned every summer and bought fresh slaughtered meats and meal consisted of small portioned meat and at least three veggies,we were quite healthy and not one child ever graced the inside of a hospital.(6 children)I had never been in one at all until I was 25.Apartame came out in the early to mid 80's and I drank diet soda for the first time in my life and 4 years later I came up with this tumor so yes,it makes me suspicious.It will never be in my house again.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by hypervalentiodine

Originally posted by TWILITE22
reply to post by TWILITE22
 
And yes,pseudotumor cerebri is directly linked to aspartame.



There is a reference for this I assume? I am generally interested, I'm not trying to dismiss your speculations on principle, it's just that I have seen no published, credible scientific literature to confirm these claims. If there is, I would like to see it.
this is one of the papers I found..........PSEUDOTUMOR CEREBRI/ASPARTAME REPORT
By H. J. Roberts, M.D., F.A.C.P., F.C.C.P.
E-Mail: HJrobertsmd@aol.com


Posted: 13 Feb 2005


Abstract:

Objectives: Clinical insights concerning a remediable cause of pseudotumor cerebri (benign intracranial hypertension) due to aspartame disease.

Materials and Methods: Observations of six women with pseudotumor cerebri who consumed considerable aspartame products, especially "diet" sodas.

Results: The ocular and other manifestations of aspartame disease disappeared or dramatically improved in all subjects after avoiding aspartame products, even obviating surgery.

Conclusions. Aspartame disease should be considered in patients presenting with pseudotumor cerebri, especially weight-conscious young women. The associated clinical features and underlying mechanisms are reviewed with emphasis on chronic methanol toxicity.

Aspartame disease caused by the use of products containing this chemical sweetener is a frequent but usually overlooked disorder. In the author's data base of persons so afflicted, six women developed pseudotumor cerebri (benign intracranial hypertension). This appears to be the first report of such an association.

The clinical and public health implications are significant. An estimated 70% of the United States adult population currently consumes aspartame products. The more common neurologic problems caused or aggravated by aspartame are noted in this discussion.

Patients:

All six women were in their 20's and 30's. Preoccupied with their weight, they used considerable aspartame, chiefly as "diet" sodas. The representative case reports illustrate the extensive studies and treatments undertaken - ranging from repeated lumbar puncture for reducing cerebrospinal pressure to ventricular shunt procedures - prior to awareness of aspartame disease.

Representative Case Reports:

Case 1


A registered nurse with an extensive background in neurology and psychiatry was diagnosed as having pseudotumor cerebri in February 1997. intent upon losing weight, she began consuming considerable amounts of aspartame products. One month later, she suffered "fullness in my head, dizziness that wouldn't go away, impaired vision, panic attacks and a squishy feeling in my head." Several neurologic consultations and multiple studies ensued when severe headache developed.

The patient realized that the only significant change in her habits had been the use of aspartame products. She avoid them in April l997, with a progressive disappearance of symptoms. The repeat lumbar punctures being done in an attempt to decrease cerebrospinal fluid pressure were discontinued. Her "headache and strange feelings" would recur, however, if she drank an aspartame soda.

Case 2

The mother of two young children stated, "I used to drink aspartame by the hour." She was diagnosed as having pseudotumor cerebri by five neurologists.

This patient had experienced "floaters" and a large blind spot in the left eye. A neuro-ophthalmologist told her that she would become blind if a ventricular shunt was not performed to drain the excess cerebrospinal fluid causing pressure on the optic nerve. This was done in March, l998. Most of her symptoms persisted, however, especially severe headache, numbness of the feet and fingers, nausea and extreme fatigue.

Several persons, including her father-in-law supplied information about aspartame disease. She ignored it initially but then decided to stop aspartame products on a trial basis. "I saw major results. The headaches were not as bad, and the other symptoms did not bother me as much."

Discussion:
Each of these patients had been formally diagnosed by neurologists as having pseudotumor cerebri. Fortuitously, aspartame disease was considered thereafter by relatives or friends who had heard about aspartame disease, leading to aspartame abstinence.

Discussing pseudotumor cerebri in a previous text, the author noted "the greatest frequency of this disease among women under the age of thirty." Wilson and Gardner similarly emphasized the association of obesity and pseudotumor cerebri. forty-eight of their 61 cases were characterized as "fat young women."

The importance of considering aspartame disease under these circumstances is obvious. The patients usually have a good prognosis, and can be spared much anxiety and formidable medical or surgical interventions if this condition is recognized.

The diagnosis of pseudotumor cerebri was based on evidence for increased intracranial pressure, and the absence of infection, a mass lesion (brain tumor), obstruction of the ventricular system, and focal neurologic signs. The most prominent features were headache, papilledema and other ocular abnormalities (decreased vision, visual field loss; extraocular palsies).

The following considerations are germane:


No patient had taken corticosteroids, excessive vitamin A or other possible contributory drugs (tetracycline;nalidixic acid).

One patient developed concomitant diabetes insipidus, which also improved dramatically after aspartame avoidance.

A female third year medical student was excluded from this series because definitive tests were not done to exclude an inferred "membrane blockage between the third and fourth ventricle. She refused to quit aspartame products despite pleas from her parents (nationally known writers). She developed blurred vision, severe headache, and problems with speech while consuming considerable diet sodas and aspartame-sweetened coffee prior to her final exams. A shunt procedure was being considered.

Attending physicians confirmed the striking improvement after aspartame abstinence. For example, the visual changes and headache improved markedly in a patient after avoiding aspartame for several weeks. Her physician was impressed that there were now only three or four blind spots in the visual fields, whereas "the whole outer circle had been grayish for almost halfway in."

A 31 year old woman with diagnosed pseudotumor cerebri wrote: "I used aspartame in my tea in the morning, diet cola during the day and aspartame sodas all evening. Nothing touched my lips unless it was aspartame. When someone told me about reactions to it, I stopped using aspartame, and am doing much better. They may not even do the brain surgery now to relieve the pressure!"

Other Neurologic Aspects of Aspartame Disease
Aspartame and its metabolites are neurotoxic, based on extensive observations and corporate-neural research over 15 years. Women are afflicted with clinical aspartame disease three times more often than men in the data bases of both the author and the FDA. The diagnostic criteria appear in previous reports.

The following neurologic manifestations occurred among the initial 1200 aspartame reactors in the author's series. They included patients personally attended and persons providing detailed reports in a 9 page questionnaire.


Headache 518 (43%)
Dizziness, unsteadiness, or both 376 (31%)
Confusion, memory loss, or both 376 (31%)
Severe drowsiness and sleepless 150 (13%)
Convulsions (grand mal epileptic attacks) 129 (11%)
Petit mal attacks and "absences" 96 (3%)
Severe slurring of speech 124 (10%)
Severe tremors 101 (8%)
Severe "hyperactivity" and "restless legs" 78 (6%)
Atypical facial pain 70 (6%)

The foregoing complaints usually improved following aspartame avoidance and promptly recurred after resuming aspartame products, knowingly or inadvertently. Some examples:


The aggravation or simulation of diabetic neuropathy by aspartame has been emphasized.

More than 40 aspartame reactors were given the diagnosis of "probable multiple sclerosis" prior to an impressive remission after aspartame abstinence.

A female aspartame reactor experienced Bell's palsy, paresthesias, blurred vision, dizziness, tinnitus, insomnia, depression and a dermatitis. She improved when diet colas were avoided, but then evidence recurrence of the Bell's palsy and other symptoms after resuming aspartame sodas.

The suspected causative or aggravating role of aspartame in human brain cancer also warrants mention in this context.
Mechanisms of Aspartame Neurotoxicity

Each of the components of aspartame - phenylalanine (50%); aspartic acid (40%); and methyl ester (10%) that promptly becomes free methyl alcohol (methanol) after ingestion - and their multiple breakdown products after exposure to heat or during storage are potentially neurotoxic. The mechanisms may variously involve dopamine (derived from phenylalanine), cerebral cholecystokinin (CCK), serotonin, endorphins, other important neurotransmitters, neuroglucopenia, the unique permeability of the blood brain barrier to phenylalanine, and the "aging" effect of the steroisomer D-aspartic acid. Others include methanol-induced cerebral edema and fluid disturbances noted in humans and experimentally.

The severe neurotoxic effects from chronic intake of free methanol are pertinent. Dr. Herbert S. Posner (National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences) wrote a review titled, "Biohazards of Methanol in Proposed New Uses," six years before FDA approval of aspartame. He emphasized failure to recognized the "delayed and irreversible effects on the nervous system of methanol...at widely varying levels of exposure and at rather low levels."

The intake of methyl alcohol from natural sources is less than 10 mg. daily. Aspartame beverages average 55 mg. methanol per liter, but nearly twice as much in some sodas. Accordingly, individuals who drink five liters a day could ingest over 400 mg. methanol.

Several aspects of chronic methanol intake are listed:


Methyl alcohol, the first component of aspartame released within the small intestine, is rapidly absorbed.

Blood and methanol concentrations correlate with the amount of aspartame taken. The elevated blood methanol concentrations in normal subjects who ingest "abuse doses" may be detectable for eight or more hours.

Humans are more vulnerable to methanol toxicity than animals.

One-fourth of aspartame reactors experience eye problem, presumably in large measure due to methanol and its breakdown products.

Methanol toxicity is enhanced by its slow rate of oxidation. Although the half life is about three hours in human volunteers who ingest small amounts (1-5 ml), complete oxidation to carbon dioxide usually requires several days.

Methyl alcohol is detoxified through its oxidation to formaldehyde and within minutes to formate or formic acid. The latter contribute to nervous system and immune dysfunction. One mechanism involves the conjugation of formaldehyde with human serum albumin (F-HSA) to form a new antigenic determinant. Persons chronically exposed to formaldehyde develop anti F-HSA antibodies and elevated Tal cells (antigen memory cells), consistent with sustained antigenic stimulation of the immune system.

Other studies clarify the chronic toxicity of aspartame-derived formaldehyde. The highly reactive formaldehyde molecules become bound to proteins and nucleic acids. The adducts formed are difficult to eliminate through usual metabolic pathways. Using adult male rats given oral aspartame C-labeled in the methanol carbon, Trocho et al convincingly demonstrated that formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue components in vivo. Most of the radioactivity was bound to protein in plasma and liver, and had a long half life. It also was detected in brain, cornea, and retina. Furthermore, progressive accumulation of more label could be demonstrated when non-labeled aspartame was given over ten days, suggesting that aspartame-derived formaldehyde adducts are cumulative in tissue proteins and nucleic acids. These investigators commented, "The cumulative effects derived from the incorporation of label in the chronic administration model suggest that regular intake of aspartame may result in the progressive accumulation of formaldehyde adducts. It may be further speculated that the formation of adducts can help to explain the chronic effects of aspartame consumption on sensitive tissues such as brain."
Addendum:

Case histories of two additional women in their thirties with aspartame disease and pseudotumor cerebri have been received.

Correspondence:

H. J. Roberts, M.D., FACP
6708 Pamela Lane
West Palm Beach, Florida 33405 USA



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by TWILITE22
It wasn't cancer it was a benign tumor no known cause,no other symptoms pure speculation and reasonable speculation when there is no reason for a condition.I gave birth to this thing and that was that.But I do know my sons condition(psuedotumor cerebri) was directly linked to aspartame consupmtion(he was drinking a lot of diet soda)his condition has improved since he was taken off all artificial sweeteners,food inhancers dyes,and preservatives.


Benign tumours are still a form of cancer, they just haven't metastisised (become malignant). As I said, it is very hard to pin down a cause for cancer because it is a multivariant process. Even if the aspartame did contribute, it wouldn't have been the only factor resulting in your tumor. In relation to your son, it is possible that he was consuming an excessive amount, higher than the RDI, and this may have imparted a contributing factor to his disease. Will look at the letter you posted later today. Thank you for your reply though and again, this is not a dig at you.



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