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Originally posted by Soshh
Originally posted by purplemer
it is sick Al-Quaeda dont even exist. origianaly termed on the bbc if i recollect correctly
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The point of the BBC documentary that I believe you are referring to, was that AQ is not and has never been an enormous and clear-cut organisation, and that certain politicians over-simplified AQ and exaggerated the threat that they pose in order to pursue a “War on Terror”.
It exists, but it has often been portrayed inaccurately by people who either couldn’t get their heads around it or were trying to manipulate others.
Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by zerbot565
Actually what is ironic here, the poster in question you are responding too, seems to be promoting an argument that Al-Quida is real, but misunderstood as a very loose disorganized group of mercenaries and fundamentalists, that is hard to combat as a result.
Meanwhile said poster claims to be a mercenary himself with self stated strong fundamentalist beliefs revolving around his own ideals.
It's kind of a pot wants to fight the kettle argument.
An argument they want to promote based on some fundamental ideals of courage, and valor, and basic security, yet basically wanting paid for it, as a profession, that is not a means to an end, but a way of life unto itself.
When you break it down further to consider that such people rarely have an accurate political or social grasp of the people they are getting paid to terrorize and kill, and they are doing it solely because they are getting paid, then good intentions pretty much go out the window.
These really just are thugs arguing for a way of life that allows them to earn a living killing others.
No virtue in that at all.
Same as all those other folks you're willing to pay to do your killing. What do you care, really? Keeps YOUR hands unsullied, don't it?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Proto has been going around and around with the IRS on this matter for years, and Proto hasn't contributed a dime towards these phony wars.
That's right I risk incraceration and prosecution to follow my moral code, because that is what courage is in fact all about.
I realize to not be part of the problem you must be part of the solution, and I focus on just being part of the solution.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
That's right I risk incraceration and prosecution to follow my moral code, because that is what courage is in fact all about.
Taking risks to do what you believe is right.
The truth is the shadowy network some posters to this thead operate and run with, would love nothing more to denigrate honest, decent people who seek peace in the world as some kind of cowardly and hypocrite threat or fools.
They are simply arguing for a way of life that proftis off of war, by trying to make it seem wise and virtuous while it is neither.
They don't make us safer they make us less secure, and it's evidenced in the scorn they treat the people with who question the honesty and wisdom of using violence, brute force, coercion, propaganda and shadowy networks of people who really only care about making a buck at the expense of others.
No I am not one of the others they are making a buck off of, never have been and never will be, and real courage is having the aplumb to speak to the truth.
The truth of a shadowy network of posters right here on ATS who will do anything to promote the security industrial complex because they make there living off of it.
Do you mean you've NEVER paid taxes, neither federal or local? Does your "virtue" lead you to shirk that particular civic duty, then?
Originally posted by lonegurkha
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Proto yer a deadbeat plain and simple.Sorry I don't buy the moral obligation crap that's just an excuse to skip out on your obligation as a citizen.