Well with your experience I would have thought that, 'older' members of the forum would know better than to judge someones intelligence or knowledge through a date. Also being veteran members of the forum, surely you would know as well as I, that not everyone on this site shares their real personal information for obvious reasons.

I hope younger members opinions and views aren't just cast aside with patronising comments by the 'veterans' who are so clued up. That would be disastrous as I'm sure our juniors can have a big impact on their future and our childrens future because we all know that it is our generation who seem to have got our planet and society into such a mess. Maybe with views like some of yours. Surely you don't need a discussion forum if you are right all of the time.

Clearly there is no room for a progressive young generation. Im finding that quite clear. Common sense doesn't seem to prevail anymore.

Originally posted by jexmo
The reason I questioned the comment made previous to my first post is that Nick Pope recently penned a fictional book that was based on the things he saw and investigated when working for the british MOD. He had to have this book cleared by the MOD before release even though this was a fictional creation.

Nothing to do with your age mate, but you really do need to do some research. Nick Pope is either badly informed or a liar on behalf of the British Ministry of Defence. Either way, if you want the facts about official secrets, you are right to go to unofficial sources...

Oh yes, and I like your attitude. My guess is none of us has the full picture. And I'm not as ol as a lot of these guys

"above top secret" space agencies,

Tell all books

There are a few reasons the government allows things to become public.

One is the other side already know what is going on. more then even the US public knows.

Another is it cost way to much but the other side does not know this. Star Wars Missile Defence was this type program. The full program would have cost to much but for the other side the cost to defeat it was imposable to match. because of this the other side gave up.

The last one is the project is imposable.(in the next 50 to 100 years at least)
These imposable projects cost a lot of money to the other side in spying and in-place agents, plus a lot of scientific research just to find they are imposable.
Plus they make good spy trap bait.

Right now the other side is likely going nuts over the unmaned military shuttle that just returned.
is it a spy platform, a weapons delivery system?????????????????

Well we know that the Military,specifically the AF and Navy have had an amazing space programme budget from the late 50's until the 70's from all accounts of declassified fiscal reports,etc....
In fact the Militarys space budget was much larger and inclusive than previously thought as more documents are released.
Either the Military has been shooting gold off into space for kicks or there is some serious hardware and facilities at work joe public has No clue about.
And for those that say you cant hide space launches I say please remove your head from the sand.
We have had floating launch ships,vehicles for years as well as plenty of remote military atolls and a slew of remote US bases that could easily conceal certain operations.
Hundreds and hundreds of Trillions of dollars folks........all on a Space program that can only deliver(so they say) satellites...
and seems uninterested in the moon or advancement in propulsion other than rocketry..........
Makes you wonder......

The patent is quite undetailed for a serious study.

It may be authentic (somebody actually recently having this idea), but one has to consider the possibility that the filing of the patent itself is possibly an intentional cover project.