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How may one incite a meaningful revolution?

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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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We have the means for revolution and we enact it every two years for congressional seats and every four years for the seat of president and vice president.

We just fail to actually take it serious; starting off at the local level and definitely starting at the primaries....does anyone even vote in the primaries?

If you don't then you can't complain about the choices presented when the general election comes around.




posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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You go ahead and vote your rights away. Lets see if the rich people your voting for give a blinking sh**t about you after they are sworn in. Nonetheless, there will always be a place for you and yours in the revolution. Thats good news by the way.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by topdog30

Originally posted by wayouttheredude
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It is not about wealth as much as connectedness to the ruling class. If someone is worth billions for instances and that person controls some valued resource he is approached to join the club. If someone is worth only a few hundred million but she has a large following or fan base she may be approached. Of course if they have a royal title they are in by default. If they are the CEO of a fortune 100 company well you get the picture.

Connectedness and a basic disregard for your own nation is important. If you are not invited to speak at the CFR for instance you are likely not in the club or even a candidate for that matter. This is not new information. How do you not know this stuff. It seems so self apparent to many of us I guess. Globalist elite are not patriots. They are citizens of the world and as such very much think they are above the rest of us.

This short book gives some good clues to how this will likely turn out.
A Lodging of Wayfaring Men
edit on 6-2-2011 by wayouttheredude because: added link


I don't know this stuff because I'm not absorbed by it. I'm very busy growing my investment company and raising my family, thats a full time job.

I personally don't believe in secret groups that control the world. I know others do and thats fine.

So you feel that people who have more wealth than you look down on you?


Let you do say, a Quarter Trillion in sales in a year and watch how fast they will flock to you. As an investment advisory firm head that means you have access to resources and info currently unattainable by both Govt and private citizens so with that in mind watch the market and see what select few groups of companies remain consistant and always see profits in the high Billions while those with no name behind them continually fail and fall. That is how they leverage nations, it's called Ecomonical or Financial Terrorism which is the Little kid games that they continually play in order to retain complete control. Make any moves that are counterproductive to them and watch how fast not only your rating, credit rating and all investment accounts collapse in a short amount of time. They could spend a trillion or so like if it's water.

The Rothschilds total estimated fortune is north of $300,000,000,000,000! (Three Hundered Trillion Dollars USD). Current CEO of NM Roths is Nathaniel Rothschilds, IV whose personal worth is estimated at $1.4 - $2.5 Trillion alone.

NM Rothschilds & Sons Ltd., UK, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, ComcastNBCi are some of their principle properties and holdings. Watch groups like this.
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 02:29 AM
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First, you need something worth revolting against. Let's be honest here, pretty much everyone you see talking about "revolution" is doing so because they think it'd be something fun to do, or for some piddly reason like "OMG THEY INCREASED MY TAXES BY A DOLLAR I'M SOOOOOO MAD!"

Like it or not, most Americans are very comfortable where they are. Our government is imperfect, but it's functional and mildly responsive. Our economy's in a slump, but abject poverty is rare. Truth be told, compared to many of the other people that share the globe with us, we've got nothing to bitch about. What we do have is minor and generally "special interest," unable to unify into a genuine people's movement.

So first, you need a genuine cause.

Now, you have your cause, then what? You and your friends are going to squat on a street corner? Pickets and slogans haven't worked. Ever. Period. Mass movement is the only option. It can start as a trickle at first, but you need to be able to pull in a torrent. Much of this relies on the validity of your cause; a cause people cannot relate to or support will fail. it also depends on networking skills - a pack of apathetic stoners who's only connections to the outside world comes through their grower might have the best cause in the world, but they're still not getting anywhere with it (and thus, marijuana remains illegal; its proponents spend more time talking to each other than doing)

So now you've got your cause and you've got your people. What next? Stay involved. Why did the anti-war movement of the '60's fail? Primarily because the bulk of its constituents favored a philosophy of "dropping out" under the mistaken belief that this would make other people take notice. It doesn't. If they had stayed involved with "the system," sticking to their guns the whole while, they might have done something. And I don't mean showing up to vote at the polls (though that doesn't hurt; it's free and makes a dent, so why not) I mean actual, honest-to-god activism. Get in your opponent's faces. Block the streets, Strike. Hunger strike. Civil disobedience. Don't be like Cindy Sheehan and only speak to people who agree with you all the time. Take your cause to the people who are responsible.

Where it gets messy if is the activism doesn't work. There's an extra step, on e that also crippled the '60's anti-war movement. The use of force. Nothing in the world ever gets done without an "or else" option. You could have twenty million people in the streets backing your cause, but if the most they'll ever do is wave a sign or chant a slogan, nobody cares. You're just twenty million retards who aren't getting paid. Vandalism and other property crimes is a good way to get a message across. If it comes to force, fight back. Don't start the fight, but be prepared to end it. Ever seen a video of cops herding protesters around like confused cattle? They can only do that because the protesters are letting them. So... don't. We can admire Gandhi all we want, but without a billion angry Indians at his back, he could make all the salt he wanted, to no avail.

Again, every ounce of this depends on the cause. You must have a cause. People must be attracted to your cause. You need enough attracted people to make an impact, and your cause must be one that most of those people will literally fight for if they have to.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
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First, you need something worth revolting against. Let's be honest here, pretty much everyone you see talking about "revolution" is doing so because they think it'd be something fun to do, or for some piddly reason like "OMG THEY INCREASED MY TAXES BY A DOLLAR I'M SOOOOOO MAD!"

Like it or not, most Americans are very comfortable where they are. Our government is imperfect, but it's functional and mildly responsive. Our economy's in a slump, but abject poverty is rare. Truth be told, compared to many of the other people that share the globe with us, we've got nothing to bitch about. What we do have is minor and generally "special interest," unable to unify into a genuine people's movement.

So first, you need a genuine cause.

How about your "imperfect" government taking away your freedoms as defined in US Constitution? Mildly responsive? You keep voting for people that plainly wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. How do you get a response?

I don't need to find any cause, neither does anybody else. Those elitist sh""t eaters have already given us a great cause. Look at what their plan has got them in Egypt.

People hate being sheared like sheep.

Now, you have your cause, then what? You and your friends are going to squat on a street corner? Pickets and slogans haven't worked. Ever. Period. Mass movement is the only option. It can start as a trickle at first, but you need to be able to pull in a torrent. Much of this relies on the validity of your cause; a cause people cannot relate to or support will fail. it also depends on networking skills - a pack of apathetic stoners who's only connections to the outside world comes through their grower might have the best cause in the world, but they're still not getting anywhere with it (and thus, marijuana remains illegal; its proponents spend more time talking to each other than doing)

So now you've got your cause and you've got your people. What next? Stay involved. Why did the anti-war movement of the '60's fail? Primarily because the bulk of its constituents favored a philosophy of "dropping out" under the mistaken belief that this would make other people take notice. It doesn't. If they had stayed involved with "the system," sticking to their guns the whole while, they might have done something. And I don't mean showing up to vote at the polls (though that doesn't hurt; it's free and makes a dent, so why not) I mean actual, honest-to-god activism. Get in your opponent's faces. Block the streets, Strike. Hunger strike. Civil disobedience. Don't be like Cindy Sheehan and only speak to people who agree with you all the time. Take your cause to the people who are responsible.

Where it gets messy if is the activism doesn't work. There's an extra step, on e that also crippled the '60's anti-war movement. The use of force. Nothing in the world ever gets done without an "or else" option. You could have twenty million people in the streets backing your cause, but if the most they'll ever do is wave a sign or chant a slogan, nobody cares. You're just twenty million retards who aren't getting paid. Vandalism and other property crimes is a good way to get a message across. If it comes to force, fight back. Don't start the fight, but be prepared to end it. Ever seen a video of cops herding protesters around like confused cattle? They can only do that because the protesters are letting them. So... don't. We can admire Gandhi all we want, but without a billion angry Indians at his back, he could make all the salt he wanted, to no avail.

Again, every ounce of this depends on the cause. You must have a cause. People must be attracted to your cause. You need enough attracted people to make an impact, and your cause must be one that most of those people will literally fight for if they have to.



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