Our most true self, our inner nature, is not the 'self' that hurts others and takes from others. An evolved conscious being tries to live in harmony
with all that surrounds it and considers a 'whole benefit' from actions and decisions over a 'individual benefit'.
Our intellect and personality...is not the 'true self' but yet it mostly makes up what we all 'think' we are. Until one can peer further into
themselves and all that surrounds them....they will not see past the intellectual self, the personal personality of themselves, or be able to see
themselves as a '1' that is a part of a larger 'whole'. This whole is everything seen and unseen. Nothing can exists without the infinite energy that
is constantly and consistently being...and we can call this energy 'god'.
This is not a new idea at all as another poster suggested that it is for 'sales'. I would not understand such a thought unless I, on my own path
without any other man telling me of such things...discovered, God was within me, of me, I of of Thee, and all that surrounds me, is of Thee and Thee
is within all things. As this discovering surfaced within me...it was like looking in a mirror and seeing myself. It was the greatest experience
ever....but it was humbling beyond measure. It was not a prideful experience, it did not gratify me as a 'self' in any way, it did not 'fill' me with
a feeling of power. God is a manifesting, emanating be-ing (not like a phsycial being as we thing being...but more a term of 'constant'..."be....ING'.
To be....is to express. We, are like expressions of Thee. We in this image...as 'be....ings'...are constantly also 'ex-pressing'.
Depending on the nature of what we understand....or what part of us the expression evolves from...will depend on the nature of the expression.
Lets say our personality thrives on power for the 'self/individual' that we think we are. Then the expression of 'power' will manifest outwardly in
our actions, decisions, and attitude. Lets say that our intellect thrives on 'knowing scriptures from front to back'....and in return...we spout out
scriptures to others trying to lead them instead of helping them discover the 'kingdom is within' in their own spiritual birth right. Many natures of
flesh can fool us from our most true nature of Spirit...and as one is not aware of the true nature of Spirit, then things like the intellect, ego,
personality, lead the being in actions, decisions, and attitudes.
When someone commits a hurtful act towards another...this is not the divine nature leading the way through the instrument of the body. This obviously
is a being that is using their intellectual self, their personal personality self (personal attractions, desires, needs), or their ego. Such avenues
are filters that are used for the true nature to weigh, measure, and discern from....as it emanates and consciously explores in 'being' its true self.
We want to look at Hitler as a man of his own right...that he as a individual, would of been better off not being born. But we need to look at it from
a universal eye. Look at what many have learned about pride and its harm that it can do...through the body complex of Hitler. All paths that are
not...have to be explored...so the 'whole' can discern its true nature of 'being'. Hitler...only harmed, his own self. Those he hurt with his
pride...were a part of him in Spirit. Imagine Hitler having to stand before himself...and seeing that his deeds...were like killing his own self.
History is a funny thing....when you look at it from the eye of 'reaping what you sow'. We had a people that thought they were 'chosen' and they
became prideful. Then we had another person who thought he was chosen...that was prideful...and it just so happens that this person later looked his
own pride in the mirror of a people that also thought they were chosen. Its an ironic look at fate. For me, such a story on both sides of the 'chosen
mind set'.....showed me the dangers in anyone thinking they are any better then anyone else. I learned, alot from both sides of that story and both
sides taught me the downfall of pride. I think also, it showed the world alot about what 'pride' can do and its harmful nature.
Ones actions may not only be a lesson for their own self as a 'part of a whole'....but may also be very much for the 'whole' to learn from as well.
Look at what we have all learned through someone like Martin Luther King. Was his 'good deeds' for himself? Or do we learn the worth of living for
others...through him? Was his purpose a purpose for the 'self/individual' of him...to gain rewards in a personal way....or was his deeds, having a
deeper purpose for the 'whole' to gain?
As a 'being'....can you know the worth of love...unless you have experienced hate?
Can you know the worth of the sun shine....without the darkness also?
Can you discern between the worth of trust...without also seeing the effects of lies?
Can you understand the worth of selflessness...without also seeing the effects of selfishness?
In all things, there is a purpose, for the whole. As it weighs, sifts, and measures through experiences of its own expression of 'being'....a
emanating of the true self slowly manifests through the conscious beings...and a 'true self' evolves through all the things that it really was not. A
constant renewing occurs as being, through its own expressions of self.
Something to think about...even from the book called the bible...is a word that we mistranslate all the time. In Genesis...we have translated a word
to mean 'created' when in Hebrew language..there is no word that means 'to make from nothing'. The Hebrew word used in Genesis is 'bara' and we
translate this word as 'created'. Bara is used elsewhere in the bible when it talks of the 'fat that fills the animals'. We can then look at Genesis
where it says in Hebrew 'bara' and retranslate this line as 'And God filled the heavens and the earth'....instead of....'And God created the heavens
and the earth'.
The you have Jesus saying 'The father and I are one'....and he also said to others...'my blood is your blood, my body is my body'...he also said 'pick
up YOUR own cross'...and he also said....the kingdom is within you.
Could it be that anyone can say once they are evolved consciously....that the father and them are one...that all peoples blood is their blood...that
all peoples bodies are also their body....or that the kingdom is not only within them but also within every one of us?
Jesus was not after...self glorification. He made that very clear. He was not after 'rewards' for the self. I think he was an evolved conscious
being...that was able to let his most inner true nature of Spirit, work through him, shining a true nature of 'being'....which became...a perfect
expression of God...humble, offering, compassionate, accepting, and merciful.
Mercy does not come through 'there are no rights or wrongs'....but comes through the pathway that there is understanding when someone falls for things
like 'love for power, pride, greed' in ways of flesh. As each of us evolves as conscious spiritual beings that are expressions of a one true
self....the whole is becoming a more prime expression through consciousness...of its 'true nature of spirit'.
An evolved conscious being....does not see itself as a individual living amongst other individuals...but sees itself as a part of a whole, living
amongst other equal parts of the same whole.
As you expression yourself every day....you may use the avenue of power, pride, lust, greed, envy, jealousy.....OR...you may express yourself through
a spiritual nature of love....and love is not prideful, love does not envy ,love is not jealous, love is boastful, love is not rude, love is patient,
We have two natures while in the body complex....one nature is our true nature and the other is our nature of flesh and the effects of thinking we are
all separate. Know what is of flesh...and know what is of Spirit. Work on discerning between those 2 things...and you will start to see a inner true
nature and a nature that is only an effect from a cause of having an experience in a body that things its separate from its surroundings and other
If our true nature of spirit is to discern between its true self and its expressions of self as 'being'....how would it really be able to discern and
sift and emanate without having experiences of 'not knowing'? If we had this experience....and if we all 'just knew' that we are not individuals at
all but something much more as a whole....would are intents be true when we make a choice between what is a benefit for only ourselves or what is a
benefit of what is for the whole? This experience was not made for the Spirit to be a robot unto itself...but was made for a sifting, a renewing, a
purification through 'being' in its own expressions.
When you create a picture of art....this is an expression of you. It could not 'be' without you expressing yourself and manifesting that expression
outwardly by will to create the painting. In a sense...you 'filled' the painting...with your own self. If we all sat down to make a painting...each of
our paintings would be expressions of our own selves...no painting being just alike and no painting being able to 'become' without the artist that
All events, serve a purpose for the whole to learn from.
Everyone's choices, effects another, be it positive or negative. The Earths nature effects all of us and our actions effect the Earth. We are all
'one' giant cause and effect experience...showing us that nothing is really individual all in its own right...for other things influence us and we
influence other things.
I do agree that some get way to hung up and 'stuck' at a certain point in their conscious evolving when they reach the understanding that god is
within them and they are of Thee. If they did not work properly on maturing the ego into a healthy state of mind, humbling themselves that it takes
'all things' to make the whole and 'no things' are any more of the whole then any other thing....they will get stuck and their pride will be filled
and they will misunderstand what it meas to say that 'we are god'.
We are 'of ' Thee...we are expressions of Thee. Our souls can be looked at as nothing more then a 'phase of the Spirit'...or the Spirit...experiencing
a phase of itself through a avenue of 1 of many, expressions.
Namsate means....the god in me, see's the god in you. It takes a lot of spiritual work to reach the point of this understanding. Our souls being of
Spirit....are always seeking harmony with all its of. Our intellect, our personalities, are always seeking fulfillment of 'self'...of the mind/body
complex that we all 'think' we are. This body complex is a instrument for sifting the true nature of our being from the illusion that makes us think
we all are separate, that we are not all connected, not only with each other but to all life that surrounds us...from the blade of grass to the stars.
These are not thinks anyone should just accept...but they should seek it on their alone path of seeking within them and all life around them....are
discovering the harmony that the soul seeks with all life.
If I go out to harm someone tomorrow....this is not the divine within me being able to emanate through me...but this is my ego, intellect,
personality....the cause and effects of living for the flesh that I think makes me who I am...expressing. As I learn that my true self that is eternal
and infinite and is within all things of life....I work on not letting my intellectual self lead me, not letting my personality of what I personally
desire or want lead me, not letting my ego self lead me....but can allow my true nature, the deepest core of my being....work through this mind/body
complex and understanding that we can all be ripples in a pond, effecting others through all that we do.
Heaven is a state of being...and can be found right here on Earth....through understanding we are all one is spirit and as more and more beings awaken
to this...the world will be on a more harmonic path as living as a whole instead of living as a bunch of people that live for 'self/individual'
Knowing we are all of Thee..and nothing can 'be' without Thee...should humble someone and make them a more divine nature in their actions and ways. If
someone claims to understand such things....but yet they still boast, they still live for their self in the end, they still await rewards only for the
self, they still hold themselves over others that know not, they still hold judgments on those that know not....then they really have not accepted the
truth that we are all one and there is really only one true self here.
We are all a work in process...as individual expressions....and as well and more importantly in the bigger picture...as a whole.
We are free to live for the things of flesh and things of our individual illusion as long as needed....before we all will eventually still find we
thirst for something that we have not found or understood. It is then the soul will start to seek and see that it aches for harmony, amongst all
things that are spirit, seeking unity and with the Spirit that it is of.
Can be complex...but once you understand it....there is no turning back. I think some just are not ready to look at such ideas of it literally means
they have to face that they are not really a individual at all. This is the last thing the ego wants to face.
We dont have to rid of ego to understand a deeper purpose and perspective...but we do have to mature it. We dont have to rid of intellect...but we do
have to empty our cup to be shown things of our true nature. We dont have to rid of our personality...but we do have to understand that many things in
all throughout our life is what births our personality. The way we were raised, our culture, our society, experiences of being hurt, experiences of
attractions and fears, ect ect.
Alot of people can get caught up in a stage of personal conscious evolving when they start to have spiritual experiences. Since having a personal
experience can fulfill the 'self' as being something more then others, as being special, as being some 'great self' amongst others that are not having
such experiences....spiritual experiences can feed the ego more then it is allowed to feed the inner true nature of self.
God is not some magician that raising a wand and wishes for things to come into being. Its a infinite energy that is constantly being so its
consistently expression. Its process is more like 'emanation' rather then 'creation'. Look all around you at nature...nature shows us the design of
process through cycles and orders. Its not so much of 'god wished something so then it became'....but more of a very natural manifestation of 'being'.
I often repeat many things and ramble....I often write way more then I need to.
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