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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:00 AM
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This is my last attempt. I've increased the quality of output, changed timing on the flash and added a little focus effect.





posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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I'm with the fellow above make the movie and show us amateurs, (that you call us) how it is done? No one has said anything about the red lights in a triangle?

I'm am well versed and practised in computer image editing and graphics and I say that this wouldn't be easy to do. It would be very hard in fact. As some one else said they had to add that flash to all the buildings. This would take a fair amount of time. The person who did create the one fake video, has already proven the flash to be harder as he wouldn't take the time to do it. As it would haven taken quite some time. Then to do this to three videos. Well that would take even longer. The flash is the thing that makes this video more likely real.



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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That last attempt at a flash just makes the original three look more real. Your flash you created reacted and looked nothing like the others.



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by liveandletlive
I think it is a great topic. I want to see how real someone can make a video appear. It would help other people see the differences in a real video vs a HOAX video. In the future less people would be inclined to believe fake videos that are released. Or you can keep refusing to stay on topic and keep regurgitating the same argument from the other thread.


This video:



Was shot 11 years ago on July 24, 2000.

It still shows up here often as being a possible ET craft video. Even though it was made for Sci-Fi/Psy-Fy.

Another quick fix of how the communities of sceptic and believer can work is this one:



I implore you to investigate this thoroughly interesting topic but remember there will always be people who join and aren't aware of the epic videos of the past. Research them first and understand that these hoaxes are no where near as cool as prior ones which were thoroughly debunked because they made a lot of people take notice.

-m0r



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by EnigmaAgent
This is my last attempt. I've increased the quality of output, changed timing on the flash and added a little focus effect.



The orb is too slow when it moves off. Can you make it faster?

Can you make it flash like the other videos and can you zoom out so we can see the effects of the flash?

I'll give you a star for at least attempting but no cigar yet.



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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I like how you all used daytime videos to try to debunk it. Still all those videos had no flash. Not like the J vid. Not one of them had different angles.



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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oh and btw if any of you budding film makers think they can ....lol heres the rub......


p.s I stand and correct myself it isn't terrestrial it seems to be part of its propulsion.
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oh and pp.s zoom in on the buildings on the edges of the flare....ooh shadows and light.
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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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WOW! those darn Israeli hoaxers that flubbed their footage must be the finest CGI artists on the planet....Hell! George Lukas and Steven Spielberg should hire them, cuz none of their artists can even come close



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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The people who think that the left side of Video 1 is a mirrored or tiled image are flat wrong. Look on Google maps and see what structures are there before you rush to judgement. Yes there is a symettrical structure located in that area.

This is in response to someone I forget who it is, Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Someone just informed me that the "mirror image" is actually a hotel and that it is a real image?

I just checked and you can to, that hotel is at that exact spot.
Go to google maps , type in Armon hanatziv-then look for yemin Moshe-then confrim that the windmill is in the Yemin Moshe-also bear in mind that the view of the old city from Armon hanatziv is the side . Then i checked Google and it is exactly there. You thought-what could the chances of a structure so symetrical be on the edge of a video you a sure is hoax. That is curse of Hynek. And that should be a lesson that sometimes things are not as you swear you think they might be
who found out that the area in question in Video 1 that some feel is a motion tiled and or mirrored portion of the video, therefor they declared it Case Closed.








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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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I'm pretty sure there are guidelines to posting something along with a video Emerald.

Could you add your opinion as to why you think that video is relevant to the topic please?

Thanks for playing nice.

-m0r



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:46 AM
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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan


ROTFL....

Excellent post in one of the daftest threads for ages.

Let me get this straight, someone wants a person to recreate a fake to prove its not a fake?

LOL...

To the OP, it's been proved a fake a million times over for every reason you know to be true, even if someone fails to recreate it to your exact wants then its still proves nothing and wastes a load of peoples time as I'm pretty sure even if they get very close or spot on you will nit pick anyway..

So please folks, give up on the recreation, you will be wasting all your times, what chance do you have with a person that is so sold on a video proved fake...



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Those kind of responses get you banned.........And to reply, at what speed or frame rate of each of the cameras?
Light travels very fast its quite possible it wasn't captured by all the cameras.
But what we want is a fair recreation of this event not words........My words are merely parameters that need to be addressed at any attempt of a recreation.

I digress ....impossible to recreate and if you did it would be too clean and artificial...nothing has been debunked or proven either way....Time I got back to science .....

Nice thread OP S+F




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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Well thanks again for the insults. You prove my point about you.



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
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Here's and open challenge to you. Educate and learn for yourself, rather than beg/challange strangers to do it over the internet for you.

Go get yourself a program, learn how to use it.....then you will be able to join the club of folks like us that aren't so easily fooled.

I, am many others around here could recreate this video. I could do it in under one hour (I would use some stock internet background picture for speed and lazyness problems). But I'm not going to bother, and that is what you want folks like me to say, so you can sit there and shout "SEE, I TOLD YOU IT THEY CAN'Y DUPLICATE IT!!!"

This is a stupid game your playing, and you know it, we know it and I am sure the mods know it.

Stop playing your silly game and go learn to use simple cgi and video programs. I am sure after less than a month of learning them you will be laughing at your earlier self.

That is the only way of denying ignorance here. Deny it on a personal level by learning. What your doing here is what is always been done, which is a silly, stupid game that never works and always ends up actually causing those with absurd and improbable beliefs to become emboldened about them...further hurting and ensuring this subject is laughable (it is laughable because it is filled with ignorant individuals who are so interested in it they can post utter crap on a board many times a day, but not interested enough to actually learn simple tools they could use in order to promote their intelligence......sad, if you even understand what I am saying.
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Damn it, I skipped to the end of the thread which is one of my greatest hates, I did it simply because I envisioned countless pages of utter drivel, needless to say it looks like I was right but there in it was YOUR post, a beacon of light in a dank old world of BS.

I posted a similar thing but yours simply was perfect


Well done as always ITF...



posted on Feb, 7 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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I believe it is a hoax because of the mirror image, now you showed me that the building is real, IM LOSt
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