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Newsweek goes insane! Publishes rubbish article about antioxidants.

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posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry on this one. How much more of a blatant lie could be posted? Antioxidants have a good history of helping people. But, some psychopath decides that they want to post some lies.

You know what. I just contacted them and told them how I felt on their "contact us" link. So much for their good reputation, I guess that is history now.

www.newsweek.com...

I am so ashamed of some people in this world we live in. I shake my head in disgrace.

The Natural News article that gave me the original scoop.

www.naturalnews.com...

Troy




posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 01:50 AM
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So, rather than refute the Cochrane studies, you're just going to blather on with ad hominem attacks?

Way to make your side seem rational and mature.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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Look, my friend, I already know antioxidants work, as well do plenty of people. There isn't much debate to be had from the people who know and have seen that antioxidants work. Don't try to derail my thread, I know that is what you are doing.

The Newsweek article is a work of fiction. Very irresponsible publishing.

And, by the way, what Newsweek published is "insane," and it would take an "insane" person to write such an article. There is tons of information out there on the effectiveness of anti-oxidants. Plenty of success stories to be found. All you have to do is use the search function of your browser.

Troy
edit on 6-2-2011 by cybertroy because: added some sentences



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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"It's true until you find out different".



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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You will see more and more of this as time goes on.
The establishment will go for the supplements and then for the basic vitamin tablets.
They will be telling you in a few months that people don't need fruits and vegetables as much as was originally suspected and they will go back to touting the evils of any meat consumption. Within the next few years you will see a media that touts a plain bland and unappetizing diet as the in thing.

Why?

Because people won't be able to buy anyting but cereals, processed starches, by products and synthetic drugs.

All for your own good.

Cheap "food" and a media that tells you you are happy to get it.
They did it for Nixon. They'll do it again for Obama.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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I think Dr. Wrights response to the blatant newspeak article denigrating antioxident supplements (no doubt their big pharma sponsors benefit) explains their malfeasance sufficiently.

healthimpactnews.com...

Basically they quoted a pseudo expert who then misquoted a number of animal studies. How do you like that for journalistic integrity?

Newsweek has sunk so low it's not worthy to line my birdcage. They have a toxic brew of communist/socialist group-think combined with the worst of globalist, corporate fascism. They are NWO tools if there ever was one. I think it's ironic how their name is so close to George Orwells distopian vision of total news mind control, newspeak.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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The difference between Newsweek and World Weekly News is -- that Newsweek was sold for 1 dollar. Which is $3.95 less than the price of a single issue on the newsstand.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by cybertroy
 


So, rather than refute the Cochrane studies, you're just going to blather on with ad hominem attacks?

Way to make your side seem rational and mature.


It's called fanaticism. Rationality is totally thrown out the window.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Yup, the thread de-railers are hard at work. Defamation of my character. You just confirmed your purpose on my thread. Take a bow, we know who you are now.

Either contribute something of worth to the thread, or don't post anything.

Now this is a sales page on the first link below, my apologies, I'm not really trying to sell anything. But the accompanying article is about antioxidants. Dr Mercola is a reputable source. And, there is another link.

products.mercola.com...
articles.mercola.com...

And, there is always Linus Pauling who lived into his 90s taking large doses of the antioxidant, vitamin c.

I think we have plenty of evidence that anti-oxidants are safe. I think my title is quite accurate, a little dramatic perhaps, but publishing something like this obvious lie about anti-oxidants is quite insane.

Troy
edit on 6-2-2011 by cybertroy because: made some changes



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Unfortunetley there is no profit in healthy people.

Spinach is blamed for ecoli when the run off from the mega cow farms is seeping into the aquifers.

The programming is almost complete. Nature is unnatural and unnatural is the way to go.

I'll stick with food that grows versus is made.

Peace



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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I think I'm going with a garden this year to forward the cause of clean healthy food. Never really tried gardening much, but I think self reliance might just be a handy thing in the years to come. I'm sure Monsanto will self destruct at some point though. Their reputation is crumbling day by day, just like Big Pharma. I mean, when you poison the population, how far do you think you will actually get? I know some people are really getting weighed down by a heavy conscience. These people cannot be healthy people.

We can never stop fighting the good fight.

Troy



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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Had to bump this up because this article is absolutely ridiculous.

Newsweek should be embarrassed that they even published this article. Yeah the nutrients that got us here and helped along not just our but every herb/omnivores diet are harming us.

This disgusts me and should be on the front page.

Everyone thinks conspiracy people are crazy but this one article shows that you cannot, at all, trust MSM.

I agree with the title, RUBBISH!!

S7F buddy!!!


Pred...



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 12:54 AM
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Thank you. The article really is ridiculous. We can't let lies like this propagate. And, like I think I already said, I told the editors what I thought about the article, and I had some friends do the same.

There is no good reason to publish such an article, knowing how much anti-oxidants have helped so many people.

It's madness. We either stand up to this, or I'm afraid our future will not be too bright. The thing is, though, we are standing up. People are pulling their head out of the sand. The quicker we can get enough people to wake up, the quicker we can get our world back on the rails again.

Troy



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by cybertroy
Look, my friend, I already know antioxidants work, as well do plenty of people. There isn't much debate to be had from the people who know and have seen that antioxidants work.


I seriously doubt you know how antioxidants work considering you've absolutely twisted this article....to the point that you've commited the act of which you are accusing nesweek.

I'll bullet point it for you since you have problems with interpretations:

- antioxidant studies (that are of quality) consistently show a neutral effect

- antioxidant supplements can possibly be dangerous (the guy never bashes whole food sources)

- free radicals, reactive oxygen species, have a purpose (much like cholesterol...too little is a bad thing)

- food and supplement manufacturers took advantage of weakly designed studies to make a huge profit. Most of the b.s. you here about antioxidant supplementation is coming directly from the food corporations...and consumer (and journalist) ignorance spreads the misinformation like wild fire.

The point is...spending tons of money on antioxidant supplements is a waste of time. If anything, there is a slight possibility that they can be dangerous in high doses from single sources (like supplements). Even randomized controlled studies show there to be no significant effect.

Before I give you the link to this systematic review...cochrane reviews are some of the best. They only except studies in which quality is outstanding, duration is lengthy and bias is at its least.


The goal of the collaboration is to help people make well informed decisions about health care by preparing, maintaining and ensuring the accessibility of systematic reviews of the effects of health care interventions. The principles of the Cochrane Collaboration are:

collaboration
building on the enthusiasm of individuals
avoiding duplication
minimizing bias
keeping up to date
striving for relevance
promoting access
ensuring quality
continuity
enabling wide participation


onlinelibrary.wiley.com...


We found no evidence to support antioxidant supplements for primary or secondary prevention. Vitamin A, beta-carotene, and vitamin E may increase mortality. Future randomised trials could evaluate the potential effects of vitamin C and selenium for primary and secondary prevention. Such trials should be closely monitored for potential harmful effects. Antioxidant supplements need to be considered medicinal products and should undergo sufficient evaluation before marketing.

Plain language summary

No evidence to support antioxidant supplements to prevent mortality in healthy people or patients with various diseases
Previous research on animal and physiological models suggest that antioxidant supplements have beneficial effects that may prolong life. Some observational studies also suggest that antioxidant supplements may prolong life, whereas other observational studies demonstrate neutral or harmful effects. Randomised trials have largely been neutral. We need evidence from randomised trials to decide if antioxidant supplements should be used for prevention.


Whole food antioxidants...


Supplemental antioxidants...



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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This is what happens when the media outlets cut workforce and the entertainment editor doubles as the science editor.
Absolutely ridiculous and revolting. It's an insult. Next they'll be trying to convince us the sky was always a murky shade of grey. I wrote to them as well. Thanks for posting this and to the person who bumped it too.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:06 AM
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You guys are great! Thanks for the support of the thread. But, you do know the sky was always a murky grey? Blue is just a conspiracy theory.


It was cool that you contacted them too. The fight for truth seems like a daily battle anymore. But, it will be worth it.

The "science" of today should be called "checkbook science." Because, no matter what the studies say, the sound of a ripping check can always fix things. "No evidence that Aspartame is safe? Here's a million dollar check that says Aspartame is indeed safe and should be given to everyone."

Troy



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