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The spirit of '76, and the New American Revolution of 2011

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posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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I spent some time thinking about it recently - what exactly is driving the revolutionary spirit in other countries (Tunisia, Egypt, etc) and how does it relate to the ridiculousness we face daily here in the US....

In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson wrote down "...with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Wont get into the analysis I did here (if interested see rv-prep-end-of-days.blogspot.com...) but it's that phrase "pursuit of Happiness" that really hits home on the issues. John Locke stated in "An Essay Concerning Human Understanding"
"But as soon as any new uneasiness comes in, this happiness is disturbed, and we are set afresh on work in the pursuit of happiness."

So there you have it folks...when the average joe feels "uneasy" enough, the revolution will begin in earnest on our city streets (just like in Tunisia, Egypt, etc)

Watching what was going down in Europe, especially the UK, last year - I admit it....I was EXTREMELY jealous.. the average American is right now being fed and loved well enough by the "nanny state" that he is "content enough" - being "content" he assumes is equal to being "happy", and until he feels this "uneasiness" creep into his life, he wont raise a finger for change...

There's a reason Jefferson used those words "pursuit of Happiness" rather than "property"

[edit] Too funny that Colton posted about the Declaration at the same time - must be something in the air today [/edit]
edit on 2/6/2011 by flyingdog because: just editing




posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Holy S#T ! I had a dream of a Revolution WORLD WIDE the other day! It has been on my mind that a revolution is the ONLY way for true freedom, and for people of all colors, and sizes to come together in harmony with the planet and its concious life


Ive been thinking about this so hard and long each day, I was going to make a thread about a 2011 Revolution. The changed ways of humanity, the changed hearts. No such thing as rich or poor, ugly or pretty, better or worse. A world of all equalities!

But, i thought that making such a post I would get ridiculed... and it would go no where..

The problem with our people of the world is STATUS. Let me say that those with Bentlys, mansions, big homes, jewlery, infinite stock of food and what not would be against a revolution and against weponary. They belive that as long as they are rich there is nothing that should intervene with there high class life... Meanwhile billions are starving, dying, crying, fighting etc...

In my visions of a Revolution, there will be no such thing as government or over populace.. Everything will work out after hard times.

The only way to make things good.. is going through the phase of bad. Life works in polarities.. The Ying and the Yang, and the good and the bad need eachother to make things work. You cant have bad without good and you ant have good without bad. Simple.

I really wish people would wake up out of this state of security, money, status, materlization, productions, entertainment.. all the distractive thingss in life. We as a human race in the Galaxy of the milky way must "dip" down to rise up! I am passionate about beating the Elites, and destroying our law enforcment it ONLY brings bad. As long as there is law enforcement, there are laws, as long as there are laws, there are those breaking them, as long as there are those rebelling against laws there are fear mongerers... this chain needs to stop! we dont need laws OR enforcement. They hurt the people and protect the system, people NEED to realize there is more to life then money and free food!

If farmers can make food, grow crops I think any human being on Earth can! we are all humaniod, we can all do the same things. We can survive together, but the system needs to fold.. those who are reckless and careless (elites) are the Puppet Masters, those who do as they are told are the puppets... thats the people. Thats me, thats you thats EVERYBODY who lives in a society BESIDES the homeless.

People can have whatever they want! Just take it or trade! no need for money, you arent ment to belive these are bad behaviors but so was 911, SO is the "Iraq War", so was WW1 and 2! But that didnt stop the government from playing chess with the people did it? I think taking something that is noones and just sitting there is a little innocent compared to wars, lies, killings, manipulations, controlling and disinfoing the people who share this World...

Sorry guys.. a bit of a dreamer. I forgot there is no such thing as perfect... As long as people are told what to do and have Laws to keep them in order, its a "win-win" for everybody... what a load of bull#.

Take care Ats, and be careful. Not everything is what it seems. If you would like to chat about a revolution or "rebel groups" let me know, we might change the world


Kelliott



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Colton
America is eploiting the Nations of the world. We can no longer afford to allow the military and corporate powers of America.

...the American Revolution will not be faught in the name of the American, but instead it will be fought under the banner of Mankind.


Well put, something i was attempting to allude to without having the anti-one world mobs bearing down on me.
Only correction i would ask you to make is to substitute "America" with "United States Government" because the two are no longer the same...



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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You're right, there is better and more "viable" information to present to the people, and those are all great examples of why the Fed needs to be abolished. The problem is that most people aren't willing to sit down and read those "boring" websites and documents. It's sad, but what're you gonna do?. The cartoon just makes learning the truth about the Fed fun and certainly more bearable for the "average joe".



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Kelliott
The only way to make things good.. is going through the phase of bad. Life works in polarities.. The Ying and the Yang, and the good and the bad need eachother to make things work. You cant have bad without good and you ant have good without bad. Simple.


"Those who can win a war well can rarely make a good peace and those who could make a good peace would never have won the war." - Winston Churchill

@ plugged : valid point


edit on 6-2-2011 by RadicalRebel because: cuz i wanted to

edit on 6-2-2011 by RadicalRebel because: to additionally add the indication of my sadness towards the truth presented in pluggeds previous post(please see siggy below...)



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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sorry friend, but your quotes of a man who i could care less for dont really matter in these days ... Sir Winston Churchill wasnt facing a pole shift was he ? If you disagree with a revolution and would like things to continue the way they are... please feel free im not asking anyone or stating any facts. Just giving my opinion on this half ass world you live on.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Kelliott
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sorry friend, but your quotes of a man who i could care less for dont really matter in these days ... Sir Winston Churchill wasnt facing a pole shift was he ? If you disagree with a revolution and would like things to continue the way they are... please feel free im not asking anyone or stating any facts. Just giving my opinion on this half ass world you live on.


sorry, next time i wont be so coy in my agreeance with your statements, the quote was only intended to convey a timeless truth to your words which were quoted and in no way was meant to indacate my lack of desire for a neccessary action. I also fail to see the irrelevance of the qoute, or the relation of the subject matter to polar shifting, ?
Technically yes he was facing pole shift as such an event could have taken place at any point in our recent history, just because the facts, evidence and discussion of such events were not as prevalent as they are in todays "half ass world" does not mean that the issue didnt exist. Perhaps you have additional insight on the issue that i am not aware of...i dont know, but if you do, sharing is caring



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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The American Revolution begins today.

Death is upon Us.

The American nation will weep for the fallen.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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sorry friend if I came off a bit harsh.. but I am not one for governments and you gave me a quote of a governer

Churchill was not facing a pole shift and if he was he would have an underground bunker with the best of luxuary in the world no doubt.

The pole shift has nothing to do with the revo. but Im stating that we are in dark times today. We live in the darkest part of the governments (elites) shadow. Churchills silly quote really doesnt concern today. Because, times have changed and the bad guys looking for war are the government, the good guys looking for peace are the people and citizens of earth.

the thing about a revolution which WOULD bring peace is that there are 6.8 billion of us and and few thousand elites. Well on a scale i think the populace out weighs the Elites in our fight for revo. our problem is the Armies of the world who protect there half ass governements have the best weapons and technology and fortunatly for the governments they do as they are told..

But as its been said in the past "Quantity over Quality"
This can be looked at a different scale; 100000 hungry fish against 5 hungry sharks...when the fish stop fearing the sharks and take action the ocean will change forever. when we take actions our system will change for the greater good through the average human. Death is a natural occerance, just because your alive doesnt mean your living



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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We are far,far too divided... the last thing I want is to open the constitution to the most vociferous "left leaning " posters we have here for a "rewrite"...
Politicians like Schumer and Hillary who would gladly see our country turned over to be subservient to some one world government. Gives me nightmares. And folks here agree with them (!)

Search and seizure": Well; if you aren't a"terrorist" you have nothing to worry about!"Some of my "fellow countrymen"would turn over every authority to the Government.without question; "to be safe" embarrass me.

While I would fight alongside my countrymen to remove the stranglehold of the fed;
Climate change regulations and "global social justice." are alluring bits of collectivist doublespeak that I am not swayed by in the remotest sense..
Like the amorphous"hope and change" I think we all have a mental picture of what the product of a perfect revolution would look like : I just don't think they match in any way shape or form from person to person.
inclosing"We should be careful about what we wish for we just might get it!
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posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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First off the government needs to stop telling us what sounds good, next we need to start at home..look around your community and ask "what can I do to help or how do I help"?

An American Revolution needs to move for the good for everyone, where better then your own community to help. Governments come and go, but the people are still the same. "Do unto others as you would have done to you."

All I am truly saying is do you care more about your neighbor starving or some congress meeting on tv, in which we will never truly have a say in.

Be Inspired!!



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Kelliott
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sorry friend if I came off a bit harsh.. but I am not one for governments ...


Please , no need for an apology. Though ill thank you for offering and you have my acceptance
The subject matter is a stirring one and i would expect no less of a reaction from someone who cares about such matters. I'll hold no ill will or grudge against anyone for voicing thier oppinions on such things. It is ideas of such that continue to make life, liberty and happiness possible.

as for the rest of your comments...


Originally posted by Kelliott
...and you gave me a quote of a governer
Churchill was not facing a pole shift and if he was he would have an underground bunker with the best of luxuary in the world no doubt.

The pole shift has nothing to do with the revo. but Im stating that we are in dark times today. We live in the darkest part of the governments (elites) shadow. Churchills silly quote really doesnt concern today. Because, times have changed and the bad guys looking for war are the government, the good guys looking for peace are the people and citizens of earth.

the thing about a revolution which WOULD bring peace is that there are 6.8 billion of us and and few thousand elites. Well on a scale i think the populace out weighs the Elites in our fight for revo. our problem is the Armies of the world who protect there half ass governements have the best weapons and technology and fortunatly for the governments they do as they are told..

But as its been said in the past "Quantity over Quality"
This can be looked at a different scale; 100000 hungry fish against 5 hungry sharks...when the fish stop fearing the sharks and take action the ocean will change forever. when we take actions our system will change for the greater good through the average human. Death is a natural occerance, just because your alive doesnt mean your living


i will not argue against any of it, all should re-read



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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People may think we cant do this on our own because of Division, lack of technology, lack of will, and understanding of the governments next move.

The power in numbers is infinite! With numbers over the quality of a small group, there is no stopping such force. We dont need to approach in such a violent way as rather we could quit working for the gov' and lead by example but then the gov' will be the ones violent.

Look at Egypt right now, they are abusing, shooting (rubber bullets), tear gassing, disinfoing the public people... Just imagine what the American Enforcement would do to such a public who rebelled agaisnt the,... Is this what people are afriad of ? "going to jail", brutal force, being looked down upon ?? Let me be the one to say we would never be looked down upon by anyone; family, friends, public, even God.

We have our rights when we were born, its to do at will and breath. Those are the ONLY laws, the laws of nature. We should not abide to laws that were written on a piece of paper by a sucky ass old man half a century ago.. come on man. America needs to be the first country to fold. But everyone needs to take action not just 30% of the poplution... that will do damage to the system but the gov' could control that 30% of rebels.. More like 85% of the population needs to tell the Gov' to F*#$ off! excuse my potty mouth


Kelliott



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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I'm really impressed with the civility displayed so far by everyone regarding such a compelling topic. I hope the previous couple of pages set the precedent for the next comments to come as this thread picks up.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Kelliott
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We have our rights when we were born, its to do at will and breath. Those are the ONLY laws, the laws of nature. We should not abide to laws that were written on a piece of paper by a sucky ass old man half a century ago.. come on man. America needs to be the first country to fold. But everyone needs to take action not just 30% of the poplution... that will do damage to the system but the gov' could control that 30% of rebels.. More like 85% of the population needs to tell the Gov' to F*#$ off! excuse my potty mouth


Kelliott



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Kelliott
People may think we cant do this on our own because of Division, lack of technology, lack of will, and understanding of the governments next move.

The power in numbers is infinite! With numbers over the quality of a small group, there is no stopping such force. We dont need to approach in such a violent way as rather we could quit working for the gov' and lead by example but then the gov' will be the ones violent.


Word, if nation wide protests were to remain strictly non-violent and supported by at least 70%(maaaaybe even 65%, maybe) then any violent reactions authorized by the government would be them admitting tyranny. People need to remember that the government is supposed to work FOR us. If a clear majority voice their demand for something, and our representatives aren't working towards meeting that demand then they aren't doing their job anymore.



Look at Egypt right now, they are abusing, shooting (rubber bullets), tear gassing, disinfoing the public people... Just imagine what the American Enforcement would do to such a public who rebelled agaisnt the,... Is this what people are afriad of ? "going to jail", brutal force, being looked down upon ?? Let me be the one to say we would never be looked down upon by anyone; family, friends, public, even God.


What the Egyptian people have accomplished so far is inspirational, but we can learn from their mistakes. When protesters started acting in violence the government had an excuse to react with violence. If there is to be another American Revolution let's not give them any excuse for violence.


We have our rights when we were born, its to do at will and breath. Those are the ONLY laws, the laws of nature. We should not abide to laws that were written on a piece of paper by a sucky ass old man half a century ago.. come on man. America needs to be the first country to fold. But everyone needs to take action not just 30% of the poplution... that will do damage to the system but the gov' could control that 30% of rebels.. More like 85% of the population needs to tell the Gov' to F*#$ off! excuse my potty mouth


Kelliott



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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As i read the last post, this song was playing in the background....

To some it may not seem too significant but when i put it in perspective of some other post i have tried to contribtute to recently, like this one, and this one, it really just stirred up some emotions for me, and im going for a walk now


i urge any one who reads this to read the entirety of the posts i linked to, if only so that this post wont be taken out of context

I also hope that zoso28, SlovenlyGhost, nor burntoast have any objections to me posting those links here.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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The revolution is already happening by One World Government Revolutionaries. Whats occurring now is a response to that. The resistance is currently growing at a rapid rate from TPTB gearing up to clamp down around the world because they are aware cosmological events are making things ripe for change and they want to direct that change. Right now this is an information war and it would be smart to keep it that way. Has anyone thought of creating a Resistance National Radio Network for communication in ruff times? This is going to be a very different kind of revolution then 1776. For it to happen we need support and to do that we need to inform. Whats the difference between the 1960's revolutionary spirit and todays? Has anyone here ever read Abbie Hoffman's book 'Steal This Book'. It has now been updated for modern time with a site called 'Steal this Wiki'.
wiki.stealthiswiki.org...
It gives you so many things you need to know for these times with a humorous writing style. I really like it because it is designed to be updated and adapt with changing times. Before the internet people would use gathering events at concerts or underground newspapers to spread the word. The internet has changed things. There may well be a future where the internet as we know it now doesn't exist so we need to brush up on the older ways. Im sure the brilliant minds here can set up their own guerrilla TV broadcasts and radio broadcasts to get a positive message out. "Pirate radio can be one of the most effective tools we have in our arsenal beyond a good web presence, we can own that media and even reach people who are too poor to afford a computer or MP3 player. Now use the skills we teach elsewhere to fill the waves with content entertaining and informative enough to warrant the effort of tweaking the FCC's nose.

A modern revolutionary group heads for the television station, not the factory. It concentrates its energy on infiltrating and changing the image system." - Abbie Hoffman (from "Soon To Be A Major Motion Picture")

While most people who have reached the revolutionary mindset have killed their TV's the majority of the impressionable majority consider it a vital service like water or heat, a television transmission is practically a direct cable into the viewers mind. Think about your audience, consider what they want to hear and bend that in the direction of your message. Talk to members of your demographic and see how different messages play out with them, exploit existing prejudices against big business, corruption, and government but do not stoop to exploiting prejudices that are against our cause. This is the approach that most low brow media outlets take and it can also be used by our media. It is very important that no matter how hard you spin a story NEVER LIE, people can forgive you for reporting from your radical point of view. But outright dishonesty is a broad weapon to attack the alternative media. Most importantly make your media interesting, entertaining, and maybe even a little sexy so the viewers will not just switch to another channel. "

Find out more about it here...
wiki.stealthiswiki.org...



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Kelliott
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sorry friend, but your quotes of a man who i could care less for dont really matter in these days ... Sir Winston Churchill wasnt facing a pole shift was he ? If you disagree with a revolution and would like things to continue the way they are... please feel free im not asking anyone or stating any facts. Just giving my opinion on this half ass world you live on.

Sir Winston Churchill united a country, a small isolated country against the overwhelming might of the nazi's who had swept across Europe until he reached Britain who stopped him dead in his tracks. He then went on to organise, and ultimately win, the Battle Of Britain which has been decreed the beginning of the end for Hitler and the Nazies... And all this happened without an American being in sight!!!!!
So before you start slighting the greatest Englishmen that has ever lived perhaps you should take another look at your warped and distorted view on history! We British are the chosen ones... Its here in Europe and the UK that the new revolution has begun, and still there is no sign of an American or their involvement! You are not fit to mention the name of Sir Winston Churchill... He alone saved us from fascism..Its just a pity we dont have someone similar to save us from the muslims....



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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Down with the fed! It amazes me, as i'm sure it does all of you, what our country has turned into.



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