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reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 10:13 AM by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by rhinoceros

Originally posted by MrXYZ
It's not their fault really, they are employees and have to do as their employer tells you.

It's the fault of the capitalistic system. Things like health care and med research should be state run non-profit businesses.

let's not confuse Socialism, Communism or Marxism, history has been down that road... it is not in the best interest of free willed men and women to capitulate or to render unto Cesar.

which we have learned somehow...

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reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 10:16 AM by Soke33

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Soke33

You do realize if you studied that field, you can either work for a university, or a pharma company...not like you have a lot of choice. They're not the ones deciding on what meds they work...

But, they are the ones making a conscious decision of where, why and how they apply their efforts.

Originally posted by MrXYZ

According to your logic, everyone who ever worked for a bank is responsible for the economic meltdown, which obviously also isn't true.

According to my logic, anyone and everyone who participated in the banking deception is responsible for their participation. Those at the bottom rung are basic delivery to people, and not responsible for implemented decisions at the top. Everyone in between has some level of contribution, whether it be in ignorance or not, and that being the deciding factor of their personal responsibility within their own system.

Of course, people are to blame for the banking collapse, rank and file. Who else ya gonna blame?

reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 10:20 AM by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Soke33

You do realize if you studied that field, you can either work for a university, or a pharma company...not like you have a lot of choice. They're not the ones deciding on what meds they work...

According to your logic, everyone who ever worked for a bank is responsible for the economic meltdown, which obviously also isn't true.

what is logical is to peruse a trade skill in my opinion...

It has it's way of cleansing the soul

reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 10:22 AM by jexmo

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by JaxonRoberts

How was life created?

Still waiting for science to answer that one

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Haha what a brilliant post. Theres no counter argument for that! LMAO

reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 12:26 PM by MrXYZ

reply to post by Soke33

I totally disagree with that logic. I worked in real estate for years, but not once have I traded any of those toxic subprime mortgages, or even played a part in trading them. So are you saying because my company did so, it's my fault the economy collapsed even if I had nothing to do with it...or even knowledge about it???

You can't be serious...

I am with you in that I believe the pharma industry is pretty evil a a hole, but I wouldn't blame it on the scientists actively working on cures...it's the corporate heads that screw it up by taking the scientific findings and misapplying them.

reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 12:28 PM by MrXYZ

Originally posted by trumpetthief1
Fun Fact: Colbert is a Christian (Sorry if this has been mentioned before).

Regardless I find him to be a really cool guy and I doubt he's nut: it's not completely ridiculous to believe in god. Heck I believe in god without religion.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Christians overall. I just believe people like O'Reilly and others making ridiculous "evolution is just a theory" statements are giving Christians as a hole a bad in rep...because they make them look incredibly uneducated.

reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 02:56 PM by Soke33

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Soke33

I totally disagree with that logic. I worked in real estate for years, but not once have I traded any of those toxic subprime mortgages, or even played a part in trading them. So are you saying because my company did so, it's my fault the economy collapsed even if I had nothing to do with it...or even knowledge about it???

That is not what I am saying at all. If you conducted honest business, you were “the bottom rung of basic delivery to people” and not responsible for the corruption that was obviously taking place in the ranks above you. At some point, you had to make a decision to do your work honestly, and to learn how to do that. Kudos to you.

I am saying that the deliberate and ignorant actions of the wrong have an effect on everyone, and honest people should be doing more to intercept such heinous activity among people, when possible. Too many turn a blind eye to obvious corruption, in all aspects of men.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
I am with you in that I believe the pharma industry is pretty evil a a hole, but I wouldn't blame it on the scientists actively working on cures...it's the corporate heads that screw it up by taking the scientific findings and misapplying them.

And, the more that is discovered, the more there will be for the vipers to take advantage. There are not enough restraints on those who seek to profit or to gain power and control at the expense of the masses.

They throw the guard dogs a steak, so they can do what they want. I don’t blame a dog for wanting steak, but I won’t use it as a guard anymore. If scientists are going to position themselves to make new discoveries, shouldn’t they have some responsibility to weigh in on the misuse of it? To whom much is given, much is expected.

reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 03:24 PM by randyvs

So this is a fine place to get your info. Quack.

reply posted on 14-2-2011 @ 03:31 AM by trumpetthief1

Originally posted by MrXYZ

Originally posted by trumpetthief1
Fun Fact: Colbert is a Christian (Sorry if this has been mentioned before).

Regardless I find him to be a really cool guy and I doubt he's nut: it's not completely ridiculous to believe in god. Heck I believe in god without religion.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Christians overall. I just believe people like O'Reilly and others making ridiculous "evolution is just a theory" statements are giving Christians as a hole a bad in rep...because they make them look incredibly uneducated.

Oh absolutely agreed

If anything I'm glad he can poke fun at stuff like that so easily, it's really the key for the world to get along, by having everyone being able to see the ridiculousness in them

reply posted on 14-2-2011 @ 12:46 PM by lee anoma

Originally posted by Dredge
You have to watch Colbert on a regular basis to get the humor in this clip. He's not really trying to claim God doesn't exist or bash a belief in God, but is pointing out that Mr. Bill is once again claiming to have an answer or speak from a position of Authority on his show to get his personal views across.

That's how I saw it.

Let's just be clear here, if anyone doesn't know it:
Stephen Colbert is a practicing Roman Catholic, and a Sunday school teacher.

He isn't saying God doesn't exist, he believes in God, he's saying Bill's approach to proving the existence of God through natural and easily explainable events such as tide changes or the Sun coming "up and down" (not that it technically does), is akin to a Caveman praising a Cloud-God for the rain.

Rain starts, rain stops.
Who did that?

Cloud- Gods.

That's a nonsensical answer.

It's a ridiculous over-simplification that could make most rational individuals turn away from exploriing the possibliity of a "creator", rather than pull them in.

These beliefs are faith-based.
Which is why believers don't have proof that God exists and just say "he did things" without evidence that he actually did.

- Lee

reply posted on 15-2-2011 @ 12:49 PM by MrXYZ

reply to post by lee anoma

Colbert's a bit of a science geek...which isn't surprising given his upbringing.

Here's a cool interview between Colbert and Neil Degrasse Tyson: LINK

He makes it VERY clear that his religious view could never stop him from accepting scientific facts

reply posted on 15-2-2011 @ 02:57 PM by madnessinmysoul

reply to post by MrXYZ

Who are these little men talking in my monitor? My monitor is flat, it can't fit a person, let alone two! Can't explain that.

I press a key, the same symbol that appears on the key shows up on my monitor. Can't explain that.

We've got a massive diversity of life on this planet. Can't explain that.

These statements are all equally valid...they all lack validity.

reply posted on 15-2-2011 @ 03:20 PM by spinalremain

HAHAHAHA!