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The Nuts & Bolts of the Black Triangles

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posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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The Nuts & Bolts of Black Triangles:

There are dark, mysterious triangles moving at nighttime over America in low, slow and silent motions. They are not conventional aircraft. Regardless of their origins,, they are as important to mankind as was the invention of the wheel.

Are they entirely human-engineered devices or adaptations of recovered alien machines or genuine alien craft from elsewhere?
A historical view on the UFO phenomena in general suggests the middle ground. It places the triangles as a human response to decades of governmental and industrial studies of genuine alien machines. However, regardless of their origins, machines with UFO-like capabilities have always been on the horizon for human technical development. It is not magical to contemplate such devices whether they be visiting aliens or our own. Either way, we should not be surprise at the mysterious machines we see in the sky. This article assumes that position and carries it forward with reasonable possibilities.
The history of the triangles and the boomerangs prove the lie. These craft starting showing over various parts of the US in the 1970s. By the mid-1980s they were seen moving in formation. Seven were seen at one instance in Kentucky. If experimental, they certainly were not confined to Area 51 or some other secret testing area. They were and continue to be seen directly over the heads of unsuspecting citizens under what would be considered dangerous conditions for ship and crew and civilians and property below. If they are nuclear powered that danger level would be drastically increased unless the ship already had proven themselves to be virtually foolproof—a point of which we can appreciate because if any noise at all is heard from them, it is usually a humming sound, similar to a large electrical transformer and that mode of main power would be far more dependable than pure mechanical means as we use in all of our current systems.
Most triangles seen in close proximity to the observers are either totally quiet, give a humming noise, or rarely, emit a loud roaring sound similar to a jet engine. But as a rule, they can be a few hundred feet over the witness and absolutely are dead quiet. Given the generally low, slow and quiet attributes, that is proof enough that they are not borne by or use air. Add the other often noted attributes of ultra high-speed, hovering, instant stops and turns and you have the short list of the outstanding features of a genuine UFO. And that similarity need not be a coincidence.
The triangles are usually seen in at night in one of three conditions; They are totally dark, without mandatory red and green running lights. They may exhibit huge bright “lights” at each corner and a red light at the exact center. They sometimes are dark except for leading edge, neon-like lighting, usually blue, or they display some illumination at the rear edge. Some witnesses report the disquieting aspect that they could recognize the totally dark body of the craft, but stars seemed to show through the body with a shimmering appearance.
(The craft this writer personally witnessed along with about twenty other people in 1998 over Laramie displayed about a dozen strobe lights of various intensities flashing randomly around its bottom surface, virtually a circus of light!. That sighting was at the aftermath of a UFO conference! Evidently, the flyboys wanted to give us a thrill just as they seem to be doing as they constantly are reported as moving, low, slow and soundless over US roads making true spectacles of themselves to the drivers below.
In typical aircraft design, function dictates design and efficiency follows. A true AIRcraft’s function must first and always focus on air as a necessary evil and a helpmate. Triangles sidestep both conditions. To understand the true utility of these machines, we need to ascertain their possible payloads. This is a very critical aspect with conventional airplanes, their first element of design, in fact. To design a typical airplane, a payload of X is planned. The wings must be able to provide Y amount of lift for X. The engine(s) need to provide an amount of speed, Z, to push the plane through the air fast enough to provide that lift for X. Those are the minimum combinations that must interrelate to give the desired results of any aircraft.
Triangles sidestep that problem. They can do it all quickly with one design that is functional and efficient, far beyond any aircraft design. Those we see should be considered the early models of massless drive technology, the Model Ts, truly functional but primitive even if proven in design. Undoubtedly, many more advancements are underway to improve all aspects of this new mode of transportation. Nonetheless, most of us are captivated by the wondrous nature we glimpse in even these present models.
So we can recognize how important these craft are to world powers at this time. Currently, they are used as a war deterrent. Enemies of the US know that we have them, and they are frightened. Beyond that, as other countries develop or steal the process and the designs eventually become openly know and commercialized, these craft, or similar, will revolutionize most of our activities in the air, on the oceans and land masses. At the least, space-wasting airport runways will be torn up. The daily, overhead roar of jetliners will disappear.




posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 06:46 AM
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First, we need to backtrack a bit and establish our basic arguments, At a glance, the ubiquitous attributes of triangles justify their existence. They don’t appear to waste much energy via their mechanisms or to require special circumstances to lift off. Once again, they are being capable of extremely low and high speeds, usually totally silent operation, capable of hovering, instant stops and starts, and right-angle turns. These features are what set them apart from any conventional aircraft, making aircraft absolutely obsolete. That point cannot be argued. The second important characteristic is their incredible dimensions. It is not uncommon to find a sighting report of a low-altitude triangle described as bigger than a football field. A triangle of even a smaller size can be awe-provoking because they are an enclosed triangle encompassing an area many times the useable space inside an aircraft with the same exterior dimensions. A triangle of the same cross span or length span as a 747 would look and be vastly larger. The inside volume would be incredible.
Because of the straight-forward way the triangles move, we should not be lulled or bullied into using any word that suggests “flying,” “flight,” or “aircraft” as descriptive words. Even the science of aerodynamics itself is of little relevance to this new methodology of movement. It is abundantly obvious that these ships reduce their entire structure and the surround air to a mass of zero.
This feature, a by-product of the lifting device for the ship itself, becomes its second greatest feature. Inherently, this feature automatically gives the triangles the role of a dedicated, general-purpose transport. Add that feature to the performance to their speed and we have the ultimate machine of any we operate in any area.
Remembering that we are dealing with our efforts derived (probably) from sophisticated alien technology, we can use this vehicle for about any human activity, especially for making warfare. Assume that the power plant is efficient and compact enough to allow for several times a 747’s capacity yet with the operational ease of a Huey ‘copter.
With such an extreme view, it is possible to suspect that most of the components required in modern aviation and space operations are missing in our triangles. Since we see so many triangles in the skies these days and after several decades of perfecting our designs, the largeness is—as with the historical development of aircraft—a natural progression, smaller to larger and more capable. The general shape and the three emitters at the corners reflect our heritage of three-axis control systems in air and space craft. And as with aircraft, the more motors (power units) the more payload.
Cockpit/Control Center
The out-of-this-world performance qualities of these craft give a hint of what is inside that delta shape. For preparation to enter that fantastic aspect, one should perhaps search the internet for a detailed description of the equally fantastic pilot’s helmet for the F-135, the Joint Strike Fighter. That integrated system built into the aircraft defies all convention of what we know and expect about a pilot’s helmet such as to simple call it a “pilot’s helmet” is simply a vast understatement if not a blatant joke. And it is yesterday’s technology.
Typically, an airplane is designed with the pilot positioned at the front of the craft. Over the decades, pilots have been kept in this fashion for direct visual contact with the outside environment. While still very typical with fighter, multi-engine transport craft in both civilian and military roles tend to increasingly restrict the pilot’s view to the sides and even to the front with smaller windows. This is because swept-back wing designs, rear-mounted engines and increased instrumentation have reduced the need for or ability to make visual checks from the cockpit. Views out the front, we can jokingly say, are basically for “reality checks” to confirm instrument and computer readouts.
.Electronic gear has far exceeded the standard human capabilities of plain old eye-balling and seat-of-the-pants flying. The ever-present basic instruments of any plane, indicating airspeed, altitude and artificial horizon have been augmented over the years with various radar and a dozen other devices that work far beyond the capabilities of the human brain and sensing organs.
In a triangle, there is no visual window from where the pilot “flies” the craft. He and his crew are tucked deep inside. All navigation is done via screens, big, high-def, digital TV screens depicting all directions around the craft, capable of instant magnification and several other functions human eyes can never do. Again, Star Trek brought to life, or closer to home, resembling the control room of a Predator/Reaper drone strike team in Nevada controlling their craft around the world. Rather than being a called a cockpit, it is more correctly a command or control center. (They probably call it a term borrowed from ships and Star Trek, a “bridge.”) A typical crew—if we were to use a C-130 Hercules gunship or an AWAC intel ship as guides, could number over thirty specialists. If the ship is powered by a complicated nuclear engine, a dozen other personnel may be on-board at various stations within the bulky fuselage for that duty.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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Armament
Having presented a case for these whiz-bang craft and stating early on that they rival the invention of the wheel, what good are they across the broad spectrum of human endeavors? The easy answer is that they are the best damned war weapon ever developed. The extreme versatility of triangles make single-purpose atomic bombs look pathetic as insults to humanity.
As a weapon of war, they will be invincible and remain so until lasers, beam weapons or something more exotic can be developed to target them before the ships can use their weapons first. It takes no grand leap of logic to discern what kind of armaments they could be adapted to use.
Remember all of the firepower and electronics stuffed into the C-130 Hercules gunships including a howitzer? Remember that air-borne chemical laser that was a long time being fitted and tested in a 747 freighter? That system is probably operational in battle-ready triangles. Or perhaps a better system, a rail gun or a beam weapon is the main weapon. Or consider rack after rack of cruise missiles. Consider any of the standard or dream weapons, multiply them many times over and imagine them inside a versatile triangle. As a troop carrier these craft are perfectly suited for sitting down in small areas, they would bring an entirely new outlook to getting a large number of boots on the ground quickly, making a mockery of the Osprey.
A inherent feature of a massless field created around the ship is that while underway there is no air resistance. The environment in the immediate area of the ship becomes part of the massless envelope. That aspect is much desired and contributes to the abilities of the craft. As the ship moves forward the encountered air becomes part of the massless field, and flows effortlessly around into the exact same volume area behind. This explains the lack of sonic booms with high-speed triangles. In addition, a triangle will never create a contrail. No fuel is being burnt in the typical sense and converted to water vapor.
Range
It is perhaps laughable to attempt to discuss the range of a triangle. In aircraft, range always applies to how far it can go on a tank of fuel. Certainly, in-flight refueling can drastically extend the initial range, but that is an expensive undertaking that requires minute coordination, multiple operations and specialized equipment. If nuclear powered, triangles can possible “fly” for months. It is time to suggest that triangles, in concept and design are self-contained vehicles, little different than nuclear submarines and not at all similar to aircraft or even the space shuttle in any fashion.
Why are the ships black and seen only at night? First, given a solid body of larger area size than conventional aircraft, they would be quite noticeable in any color if seen in the sky during day time. As still secret craft, daytime observations would quickly reveal their existence. So, why are they deep black? The overriding reason for the black coloration is crucial to the whole purpose of the triangles. Vehicles that go into space reflected sunlight. The relatively large surface area of a triangle would be a dead giveaway that “something” large and strange was up there. And non-orbital motions would further create suspicions. Any color typically used on aircraft would be out of the question for triangles. A non-reflective black, light absorbing finish such as used inside the tube of the Hubble Telescope would be the solution for that environment. In addition, is the automatic assumption that such craft are stealthy and coated with radar-absorbing finishes. However, a deep, true black camouflage for that regime means they could rarely show themselves down to earth in daylight or they fly similar to the SR-71 Blackbirds near the edge of space. As secret military vehicles, this limits them to nighttime operations at earthside. But that is a small price to pay to maintain their secrecy . (In space we can suppose that they can position themselves more or less on edge in order to present a narrow profile. Thereby they reduce their optical, radar, and sensor signatures.
We naturally assume that true alien UFOs have traveled from their home or at least from a “mothership” that has crossed the long haul between stars. Either way, it seems a no-brainer to assume that the typical flying saucer can operate in space, probably easier than in Earth’s atmosphere. Given that our triangles are not using air for lift or propulsion, we can assume that they, also, can travel at ease in space. Just how distant from Earth can they travel? If we grant them nuclear power plants or some other highly sophisticated system such as the sought-after “zero-energy,” we may give them lease to journey to the Moon, Mars and beyond. After all, these ships totally bypass all rocketry and aerodynamic concerns. Lift off from Earth, for example, would be done at any speed desired, while in space, speeds could be multiple times quicker than the 28,000 mph that the Apollo trips required. To the Moon and back in a day’s time? Why not?



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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We may want to consider that the English computer hacker Gary McKinnon was entirely correct in what he claimed to find on Pentagon computers. Little imagination is required to place those ships’ names and crew rosters to our US space force fleet, particularly with the triangles. Few are aware that the US navy is heavily invested in the US Space Force, and surprisingly, the Army and Marines. It is not just a domain of the Air Force. The navy understands that the days of ocean-going warships are numbered.
As for the 1989 Belgium triangle, that whole affair was a bit strange. A proper perspective may well be that it was a staged production to provide a bit of legitimacy to the informal sighting reports over the years. The best reason for that argument is that it solved nothing except to give triangle reports credibility while they remained mysterious and yet to be discovered as either alien ships or from earthly source. By being staged within Belgium, a small country without the capabilities to research or produce such craft, it obviously was in the clear. The major powers, however, were dead quiet about their involvement. The end result was the world’s population and NATO was officially made aware of the triangles and the secrecy was eased across the board for what must eventually be revealed in full. Add the logical that the triangle engineering came from principles derived from alien craft and that locks in the need for a careful, slow approach to revealing the full nature of the triangles and some of the other strange craft seen in our skies.
The 1989 Belgium case above and the bizarre triangle sighting at the1998 Laramie UFO Conference are not likely to be happenstance. They both share the same intent, advancing the public’s indoctrination to the triangles. Collaborating data has come from several air shows, big and small, over the last few years. If you have secret craft and want to keep them secret, do you “buzz” thousands of people standing outside looking up, many with cameras at the ready? Nonetheless, that has happened time after time. Many photographs, intentionally and unintentionally, have captured the fleeting, blurry craft. So don’t assume that this article is betraying any high secrets. Articles such as this are part of the plan, the natural, slow process of revelation about the existence of the triangles and eventually, from where that technology was derived.
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My purpose has been to show the unfortunate truth behind our gravity-avoiding craft and to promote the realization that they are the bastard progeny of secret work with genuine alien UFOs. As such, the official or even unofficial acknowledging of that stark fact to the entire human family is the epitome of the classic Greek tale of Pandora’s Box. Once the lid of secrets is put ajar, there never is a going back to the way it was.
Once we recognize the triangles are real and look beyond to the legitimacy of alien beings, than that changes everything. The key element shifts. It is no longer about good/evil aliens, rather, in a moment it becomes about us. Eventually, we will come to examine everything about where we came from, who we are, where we stand in the Universe and, critically, where we are going. That inevitable, abject horror of self-realization must not turn into self-destructive behaviors as our historical beliefs crumble.

We must evolve into a different and united world, bring to the fore a rich Renaissance of mind, spirit and doing for all of humankind. But right at this instant, it all involves around the triangles being acknowledged and revelations of their heritage.
One last observation of objective reality: The triangles have an inherent capability that is a thousand times greater than the celebrated space shuttle (or any craft). At this date of January 25, 2011, there are three shuttle flights planned. The shuttle has had a miserable record as a reliable vehicle. Two were complete disasters. The last failure was mission 113.That is a failure average of one every 57 missions. Mission 133 is being readied. Statistically, another failure is due, and again, it won’t be just hardware falling from the sky. If that is to happen, forty years of secrecy that involves the entire industrial-military complex of the United States plus the guiding hand of governmental officials and their policies need to be ferociously ransacked to unearth the culprits that allowed it to be so. The black-project triangles need to be revealed for the fabulous machines that they are.

Finally, the goal here was to present concepts and ideas that may have some bearing on the origins, mechanics and utility of the triangles. I leave it up to you to do your own reasoning in those areas. If I have caused you to seriously think about the topic, whether agreeing or adamantly denying my suggestions, so be it. I will have succeeded in my task.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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Ive seen one no crap serious. I was on my boat right on the edge of the ocean in Ga but it had three bright light it was coming in off the ocean low and slow at first we thought it was a boat with a flood light. As it got closer the one light spread out and turned into three lights. in the shape of a triangle. It was moving slow like maybe 5 or 10 mph and no more then 100 feet off the water. It hovered right over us and never made a sound it thought it was one of those stealth planes the military had but was a little freaked out like it may have been a UFO I was unaware of the technology capable of flight like that. It had no blinking beacons or identifying marks. But I have seen a similar aircraft in the area because there is a very secretive airfoce bombing range in the area. The one that I saw in the daylight was moving very fast though and going from the ocean to inland like laps or test flights. Is this the sort of thing that you are talking about?



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 07:24 AM
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Good read but try less copy-a-pasta and more personal input with just source and some of the article next time.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 07:33 AM
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Love this topic. You supply a lot of information here. My question is; If these triangles are made by the military, why would low flying fighter jets chase it thru a residential neighborhood?



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 07:42 AM
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I have heard about these black triangles before, do you really think they exist?
And in regards to the US Space Fleet, is that out of Beale AFB or Los Alamos?



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by teotwawki77
Ive seen one no crap serious. I was on my boat right on the edge of the ocean in Ga but it had three bright light it was coming in off the ocean low and slow at first we thought it was a boat with a flood light. As it got closer the one light spread out and turned into three lights. in the shape of a triangle. It was moving slow like maybe 5 or 10 mph and no more then 100 feet off the water. It hovered right over us and never made a sound it thought it was one of those stealth planes the military had but was a little freaked out like it may have been a UFO I was unaware of the technology capable of flight like that. It had no blinking beacons or identifying marks. But I have seen a similar aircraft in the area because there is a very secretive airfoce bombing range in the area. The one that I saw in the daylight was moving very fast though and going from the ocean to inland like laps or test flights. Is this the sort of thing that you are talking about?


It must be what he is talking about and i believe you. seen them in daylight as well.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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As already mentioned and requested, could you post the link to the source?

Sorry, but that wall of text is just too difficult to wade through....the original source would probably be a lot better....PLUS can verify its authenticity, too.

If you don't know how to link, it's the same as the copy/paste you do with the text. Just copy/paste the url....



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Very well presented.But there are facts which plain contradict or set aside your contentions of human origins of these huge black deltas.
1) These have been reported from as far back as the twenties and early thirties.
2)The many sightings of these BBDs (big black deltas) are puctuated with some strange effects which are not always consistent.
The activities which they have been engaged in are not consitent with the unvieling of a secret weapon .
3)The Hudson Valley sightings (NY, circa 1980s) have elements of human mutilations rumoured to accompany them.
4)Many sightings from around the world belie the made in USA contention as well.....


There have been many descriptions of the BBds flying low and slow, just hundreds of feet up.They are night sightings, of these huge things lumbering along silently with one huge spotlight which shines DOWN onto the ground at the" front"(point and flight direction).The craft seem to be engaged in some type of GROUND SURVEY.
My own theory is the possibility they are mapping the interior of earth......Either for content such as minerals or rare metal they seek.
Or they may be looking for anomalies of some type which have unknown importance to them.

The possibility that humans have constructed such huge and revolutionary machines, is remote.
Mostly because of their huge proportional sizes.
Deltas with massive(by our standards)sizes would require engineering which we do not yet possess.
We do not have to capability to constrict with (known materials )aircraft of this size.Nor have we caprtued one to examine or the world would know about it!(Imagine if one crashed....there is no way it could be covered up easily)
Rumours or something would suface immediately should one go down anywhere.Recovery would be a nightmare of security.
The apearance of these machines commonly thought to date to the 80s, has been reported decades earlier than that.
Though commonly held , the 80s was the world debut,it is known that there were reports dating back to the 30s.
It is only since the 80s that the phenomina was world news.
England experienced these BBDs as heavily as Belgium, a year later....
The sightings are ongoing and increasing, and suggest to me that there is another ET presence in our atmosphere besides the saucer ships whose origins have been attributed mostly to the greys.
Other common UFO shapes,(besides MORPHING) have also been commonly reported, though i know of no researcher who has attempted to classify them as yet.(that is attribute the physics of their propulsion to different races of visitors.)
(This seems to me an elementary preliminary to further research of UFOs)
The type and effects of the different UFos must give important clues as to the variety of races which could be involved here in the solar system.
Early UFO researchers seem to have presented the most raw information to us on UFOs, and since that time, the strict and thorough security proceedures of investigating bodies,like the CIA, etc, have effectively obscured any real information, as well as buried it in thousands of bits of disinfomation.
It is not certain we own these machines by a long shot.
Till i see one with the USAF logo on it, ill be suspecting that they are extraterrestrial.
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posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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I just spent 40 minutes looking for a mufon report that has been discussed on ATS a time or two. More or less it is exactly what the poster above says they want to see.

A man saw a smaller triangle moving low and slow with decals in english that said things like caution jet blast and rescue equipment here like fighter jets in american service have.

Wish I could find it, but it's eluding me. Personally I've never seen a triangle but i've had some odd experiences in Arizona Utah and colorado over the years. Including one in Casa Grande Arizona a few years ago where my stepmother and i were driving back from getting food at a local mexican restaurant one night and noticed people standing in truck beds and outside of their cars all looking at the same portion of sky. Naturally we stopped and looked too.

The strange lights were moving from place to place very very quickly and erratically then stopping to just Hover in one place all in dead silence... the lights had a yellow to greenish tint and the "show" lasted a good ten minutes.

I don't know what they were or who owned them but it certainly was cool.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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anyone have cliff notes on the original post?

I agree it's hard to read,



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 12:08 AM
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That was a case reported from Ft. Hood training grounds in Texas. I saw it on the UFO Reporting Center site in Seattle several years ago under the "Triangles" search area. The witness gave a very intelligent description and was able to see the markings via his rifle scope as he was returning to his RV after sighting in his rifle at dusk. Yep! He saw the hatch outlined in the typical red band with with the words "Rescue."



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by mysteryskeptic
anyone have cliff notes on the original post?

I agree it's hard to read,


Yeah! Ain't it a bitch!



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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As already mentioned and requested, could you post the link to the source?

Sorry, but that wall of text is just too difficult to wade through....the original source would probably be a lot better....PLUS can verify its authenticity, too.

If you don't know how to link, it's the same as the copy/paste you do with the text. Just copy/paste the url....


There is no link. That is why the 3500 words are given. Some things are meant for speed reading and some things ain't. The gist of it is the triangles are ours and they rival the wheel in their importance to humanity.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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I don't think they're alien.

Near an AFB, I've seen two. The first was so low overhead it instinctively made me duck. No lights, zero noise, and the bottom of the craft seemed to blend with the background night sky - almost shimmering. It was small, maybe 18'-20' wide, tip to tip.

In fact, had I not been holding my gaze as it "flew" directly into my view, I'd have never seen it. This one startled the crap out of me. Not used to things getting that close to me without being seen or heard.

Second was a year later, larger - maybe thirty to forty feet wide, again - blending with the night sky which was lighter on this night, totally silent, and as it went over and past, I could barely, barely discern two round slightly glowing circles in the rear of the craft.

The first was flying a route directly over an AFB landing runway, and the second was on a track right outside a very busy AFB tower/runway.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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Once again, they are being capable of extremely low and high speeds, usually totally silent operation, capable of hovering, instant stops and starts, and right-angle turns.


Other than the "Belgian Triangle" (which was on radar which I discount), is there strong persistent evidence of clearly going from low speeds to extremely high speeds?

I don't seem to hear that frequently, much more of the slow hovering. I think it's consistent with a stealth (optical stealth---active materials) airship. Most likely application would be logistics for special forces.

Description by FarArcher exactly matches my expectations of what "optical stealth" would be like. It is not perfect, especially up close, but it is certainly confusing and hard to see at night.



In fact, had I not been holding my gaze as it "flew" directly into my view, I'd have never seen it.


And that's just the point. If you want to drop off commandoes behind Taliban lines or to pickup Pakistani nukes, you'd already plan your missions far enough away from enemies. With some optical stealth it could be very hard to discern at a distance.

I think the reason that they are being seen frequently is that they're not test aircraft, they're operational.



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posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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perhaps this is it:



As it had to be invisible to radar, infrared and acoustic sensors (even to the naked eye), the ASALT/SENIOR CITIZEN is something of a technological challenge. The aircraft is of triangular shape and fitted with three lights of variable intensity, positioned on each of the three angles. Their purpose may be to conceal the aircraft's true shape at night. In daytime, other lights may be used in greater number to hide the plane, making it invisible beyond 3 kilometers. More recent information has transpired about SENIOR CITIZEN. In 1990, additional flight testing is said to have taken place in Tehachapi Mountains, near Northrop's Tejon Canyon microwave research center. Witnesses describe a flat, triangular aircraft with rounded nose and leading edge. The example observed presented a black area in its middle.


ASALT/SENIOR CITIZEN



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 02:51 AM
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Here goes with the speed read for others
my cliff notes and responses:

The Nuts & Bolts of Black Triangles:

There are dark, mysterious triangles moving at nighttime over America they are as important to mankind as was the invention of the wheel.
Oh Really?
Are they entirely human-engineered devices or adaptations of recovered alien machines or genuine alien craft from elsewhere?
That about covers where they could come from.
These craft starting showing over various parts of the US in the 1970s.
Started to show in the 70’s? what cases?
By the mid-1980s they were seen moving in formation. Seven were seen at one instance in Kentucky.
What case was it in Kentucky and when exactly?

civilians and property below. If they are nuclear powered that danger level would be drastically increased unless the ship already had proven themselves to be virtually foolproof
ET thought they were fool proof but many think a saucer crashed in July of 1947

—humming sound, similar to a large electrical transformer and that mode of main power would be far more dependable than pure mechanical means as we use in all of our current systems.
Hmm I deal with transformers daily, they burn out too

Most triangles seen in close proximity to the observers are either totally quiet, give a humming noise, or rarely, emit a loud roaring sound similar to a jet engine.
Close is a good way to see them, they may just have there sound reduction on.
The B2 has this capability also.


The triangles are usually seen in at night in one of three conditions; They are totally dark, without mandatory red and green running lights.
If it's top secret Military or ET does not have to follow FAA rules

They may exhibit huge bright “lights” at each corner and a red light at the exact center. They sometimes are dark except for leading edge, neon-like lighting, usually blue, or they display some illumination at the rear edge. Some witnesses report the disquieting aspect that they could recognize the totally dark body of the craft, but stars seemed to show through the body with a shimmering appearance.
Cloaking yep this is being worked on,
www.foxnews.com...



Currently, they are used as a war deterrent. Enemies of the US know that we have them, and they are frightened.
Oh really, tell that to the Taliban and Al Qaeda

Beyond that, as other countries develop or steal the process and the designs eventually become openly know and commercialized, these craft, or similar,
Our ordinary military, the general public doesn’t even know about these craft good luck with other countries trying to steal that technology

they are being capable of extremely low and high speeds, usually totally silent operation, capable of hovering, instant stops and starts, and right-angle turns making aircraft absolutely obsolete. That point cannot be argued.
Yes it can, who’s to say all these craft are the same? One can be built to accomplish one of these goals.


The second important characteristic is their incredible dimensions. It is not uncommon to find a sighting report of a low-altitude triangle described as bigger than a football field.
A heavy lift blimp is big too! They are slow and probably they could be quiet.

our efforts derived (probably) from sophisticated alien technology,
Maybe the far out ones are ET and the slow mo’s are our heavy lift blimps?

we can use this vehicle for about any human activity, especially for making warfare.
It hasn’t been used in warfare as of yet. Actually it hasn’t been used for anything yet we know of.

That integrated system built into the aircraft defies all convention of what we know and expect about a pilot’s helmet such as to simple call it a “pilot’s helmet” is simply a vast understatement if not a blatant joke. And it is yesterday’s technology.
B2 technology makes a pilot helmet yesterdays technology too

In a triangle, there is no visual window from where the pilot “flies” the craft. He and his crew are tucked deep inside. All navigation is done via screens, big, high-def, digital TV screens depicting all directions around the craft, capable of instant magnification and several other functions human eyes can never do.
We also have 3D TV’s now, plus No need for a pilot now with UAV's.

intel ship as guides, could number over thirty specialists. If the ship is powered by a complicated nuclear engine, a dozen other personnel may be on-board at various stations within the bulky fuselage for that duty.
And don’t forget the coolant!! Lots and Lots of Coolant! The craft if nuclear would have to be filled to the brim with coolant!

best damned war weapon ever developed. The extreme versatility of triangles make single-purpose atomic bombs look pathetic as insults to humanity.
USA and Russia just signed a new pack to reduce nuclear weapons so it is still very important!
And why doesn’t one or the other country just fly one of these triangle’s over and turn off their warheads?
PS. These triangles have never been seen in war.




As a weapon of war, they will be invincible and remain so until lasers, beam weapons or something more exotic can be developed to target them before the ships can use their weapons first.

We are 8 months ahead of schedule with the FEL Laser.
www.onr.navy.mil...



A inherent feature of a massless field created around the ship is that while underway there is no air resistance.
You mean The Magnetic Field Disrupter generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, by 89 percent. So there should be some air resistance.

This explains the lack of sonic booms with high-speed triangles.
Maybe they don’t go that fast, maybe they cloak out?

In addition, a triangle will never create a contrail. No fuel is being burnt in the typical sense and converted to water vapor.
you sure of that? You mentioned they fly at night? so how do you know they never create a contrail?

triangles can possible “fly” for months. little different than nuclear submarines and not at all similar to aircraft or even the space shuttle in any fashion.
A submarine has unlimited supply of water! A triangle has a limited supply of coolant. And for nuclear anything takes a tremendous supply of coolant. They can not be built the same

As still secret craft, daytime observations would quickly reveal their existence.
We are developing cloaking now read the link above.

So, why are they deep black?
Why is the B2 Black? It’s the absorbing paint.

it seems a no-brainer to assume that the typical flying saucer can operate in space, probably easier than in Earth’s atmosphere. Given that our triangles are not using air for lift or propulsion, we can assume that they, also, can travel at ease in space.
Wait?? we are Triangle they are Saucer?

We may want to consider that the English computer hacker Gary McKinnon was entirely correct in what he claimed to find on Pentagon computers.
He found a spread sheet he claims that had NON-TERRESTRIAL OFFICERS and they could be designated for space travel if needed.

Little imagination is required to place those ships’ names and crew rosters to our US space force fleet, particularly with the triangles. Few are aware that the US navy is heavily invested in the US Space Force
Many are aware that the navy has it’s own space program. XB-37 is recent proof.

As for the 1989 Belgium triangle,
Was cases over a period of time, one case was tracked by the Belgian Military, radar with the assistance of 2 F-16’s.
This case is probably the best UFO case that we have legit info on.


If you have secret craft and want to keep them secret, do you “buzz” thousands of people standing outside looking up, many with cameras at the ready?
Cameras are ready! That’s why we have, not much!

My purpose has been to show the unfortunate truth behind our gravity-avoiding craft and to promote the realization that they are the bastard progeny of secret work with genuine alien UFOs.
Or they are all UFO’s? or all Black Ops?

The black-project triangles need to be revealed for the fabulous machines that they are.
Then they wouldn’t be super secrete black projects

Finally, the goal here was to present concepts and ideas of the triangles.
Read Ed Fouche Book he wrote about the TR-3B

I have caused you to seriously think about the topic, whether agreeing or adamantly denying my suggestions, so be it. I will have succeeded in my task.
I guess you succeeded with me, and I can say I can save others time with this post


I hate to mention but you really need to read up on the Triangle phenomenon you could have presented your story much better.


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