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French High Court Affirms Traditional Marriage
PARIS, February 3 (C-FAM) A ruling in the homeland of “égalité” last week found the French prohibition of same-sex marriage is in accord with the French constitution, effectively ruling that there is nothing unequal about upholding the definition of marriage as between man and woman.
The demand for “equality” is the hallmark of most national and international campaigns for homosexual rights, particularly those concerned with same-sex marriage. Discussions at the UN regarding sexual orientation are rife with references to equality and non-discrimination.
The French Constitutional Council is the nation’s highest authority on the constitution, and while it normally advises the government on the constitutionality of elections and laws, it also has authority to rule on constitutionality of individual cases brought to it by French citizens. This fall, the Council accepted the case of a lesbian couple that challenged the constitutionality of the French Civil Code (which identifies marriage between man and woman), claiming the exclusion of same-sex marriage violated a citizen’s right to lead a “normal family life” and the principle of equality before the law.
The Council ruled last Friday that because of the difference of situations between same-sex and heterosexual couples, the difference in treatment in family laws is justified and not in violation of the principle of equality. As for the right to a normal family life, the court found that the pacte civil de solidarité, a form of civil union that accords a plethora of legal, fiscal, and official benefits, is sufficient for a “normal family life.”
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
Not too worried about this... It's the French...
They will surrender at the first sign of aggression... They always do...
It's in their DNA... It's also traditional (for the French...)
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by nerbot
Napoleon doesn't count... He was a Corsican... If he had been French... Well, I think that the white flag would have been used alot more... Just sayin'...
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by nerbot
Napoleon doesn't count... He was a Corsican... If he had been French... Well, I think that the white flag would have been used alot more... Just sayin'...
Corsica is one of the 26 régions of France, although strictly speaking Corsica is designated as a "territorial collectivity" (collectivité territoriale) by law. As a territorial collectivity, it enjoys greater powers than other French régions, but for the most part its status is quite similar. Corsica is referred to as a "région" in common speech, and is almost always listed among the other régions of France. Although the island is separated from the continental mainland by the Ligurian Sea and is closer to Italy than to the French mainland, politically Corsica is part of Metropolitan France. It was once briefly an independent Corsican Republic, until being incorporated into France in 1769.
Originally posted by nerbot
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by nerbot
Napoleon doesn't count... He was a Corsican... If he had been French... Well, I think that the white flag would have been used alot more... Just sayin'...
Stupid, stupid, stupid!
Corsica - wikipedia
Corsica is one of the 26 régions of France, although strictly speaking Corsica is designated as a "territorial collectivity" (collectivité territoriale) by law. As a territorial collectivity, it enjoys greater powers than other French régions, but for the most part its status is quite similar. Corsica is referred to as a "région" in common speech, and is almost always listed among the other régions of France. Although the island is separated from the continental mainland by the Ligurian Sea and is closer to Italy than to the French mainland, politically Corsica is part of Metropolitan France. It was once briefly an independent Corsican Republic, until being incorporated into France in 1769.
I was actually referring to this:
French Revolution 1789 - 1799
Why am I not surprised by your response?
Originally posted by xaruto666
i bet a good jack daniels botle that this guy in a world map
cant even find the usa xD
Originally posted by FortAnthem
It seems that the French court has recognised that marriage is a religious institution and the government has no business defining religious practices and that the civil union law they set up confers all the legal benefits of marriage to same sex couples.
It makes sense to me, if they wanted the same legal benifits as married couples, they have them. What's the big fuss over the name?
Originally posted by nerbot
I hate political correctness.
conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated
Originally posted by 23refugee
reply to post by FortAnthem
Considering that the "squeaky political wheel that is Islam" is the second largest religion in France, one might consider that claiming any "oil" apllied in the form traditional interpretations of marriage is specifically an appeasement to the Church could be a bit of wishful thinking.
Originally posted by FortAnthem
I thought that they were way more progressive than the US and the fact that their high court upheld the law really surprised the hell out of me.
Personally, I think they may have come up with the best compromise for this issue; they give gays all the legal and financial rights they have been fighting for while recognising the religious roots of the institution of marriage and respecting the sensibilities of Christians who view the gay lifestyle as contrary to the institution of marriage.
One should keep in mind that the Church defines the primary purpose of marriage as being for the procreation of children. I think that gays, unless they resort to some type of unnatural means, would be precluded from fulfilling this purpose of marriage and should be content to have gained the legal benefits of marriage for their unions.
Asking the state to redefine a religious institution should be offensive to those who hold to the theory of separation of Church and state.
Many straight couples can't procreate. We couldn't have kids. So, according to this argument, we wouldn't be able to get married.
Originally posted by FortAnthem
The Church only requires that a couple be OPEN to the procreation of children. If they are physically incapable, that is not held against them.
BTW: I think the sunglasses on your avatar are a bit of overkill. She looked cuter without them.