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SparrowSings: You've got it! Its not just that we have been tossing around the concept of genetic manipulation over the past 70 years or so, but the Ancient Sumerian Texts dating to at least 3700 BCE (because we don't really know how old the stories are) tells us that the two supreme Annunaki rulers (gods as the Sumerians called them): Enki and Enlil, genetically engineered the first humans at an age unknown to any of us. (Could be hundreds of thousands of years).
These accounts describe multiple attempts to engineer a worker-race (referred to as the "black headed ones" - obvious that this refers to the tribes of Africa). The first 6 attempts failed in genetic failures that are described in detail including physical deformaties, asexual failures (without gender), vision problems, etc.
You can read this account in the Ancient Sumerian texts for yourself:
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she placed it on grass and purified the birth.
52-55. Enki and Ninmaḫ drank beer, their hearts became elated, and then Ninmaḫ said to Enki: "Man's body can be either good or bad and whether I make a fate good or bad depends on my will."
56-61. Enki answered Ninmaḫ: "I will counterbalance whatever fate -- good or bad -- you happen to decide." Ninmaḫ took clay from the top of the abzu in her hand and she fashioned from it first a man who could not bend his outstretched weak hands. Enki looked at the man who cannot bend his outstretched weak hands, and decreed his fate: he appointed him as a servant of the king.
62-65. Second, she fashioned one who turned back (?) the light, a man with constantly opened eyes (?). Enki looked at the who turned back (?) the light, the man with constantly opened eyes (?), and decreed his fate allotting to it the musical arts, making him as the chief …… in the king's presence.
66-68. [Third, she fashioned one with both feet broken, one with paralysed feet. Enki looked at the one with both feet broken, the one with paralysed feet and …… him for the work of …… and the silversmith and …….] [(1 ms. has instead She fashioned one, a third one, born as an idiot. Enki looked at this one, the one born as an idiot, and decreed his fate: he appointed him as a servant of the king.]
69-71. Fourth, she fashioned one who could not hold back his urine. Enki looked at the one who could not hold back his urine and bathed him in enchanted water and drove out the namtar demon from his body.
72-74. Fifth, she fashioned a woman who could not give birth. Enki looked at the woman who could not give birth, [and decreed her fate: he made (?) her belong to the queen's household.] [(1 ms. has instead …… as a weaver, fashioned her to belong to the queen's household.]
75-78. Sixth, she fashioned one with neither penis nor vagina on its body. Enki looked at the one with neither penis nor vagina on its body and gave it the name 'Nibru eunuch (?)', and decreed as its fate to stand before the king.
79-82. [Ninmaḫ threw the pinched-off clay from her hand on the ground and a great silence fell][(1 ms. has instead Enki threw all (?) the clay to the ground and was greatly ……]. The great lord Enki said to Ninmaḫ: "I have decreed the fates of your creatures and given them their daily bread. Come, now I will fashion somebody for you, and you must decree the fate of the newborn one!"
83-91. Enki devised a shape with head, …… and mouth in its middle, and said to Ninmaḫ: "Pour ejaculated semen into a woman's womb, and the woman will give birth to the semen of her womb." Ninmaḫ stood by for the newborn ……. and the woman brought forth …… in the midst ……. In return (?), this was Umul: its head was afflicted, its place of …… was afflicted, its eyes were afflicted, its neck was afflicted. It could hardly breathe, its ribs were shaky, its lungs were afflicted, its heart was afflicted, its bowels were afflicted. With its hand and its lolling head it could not not put bread into its mouth; its spine and head were dislocated. The weak hips and the shaky feet could not carry (?) it on the field -- Enki fashioned it in this way.
92-101. Enki said to Ninmaḫ: "For your creatures I have decreed a fate, I have given them their daily bread. Now, you should decree a fate for my creature, give him his daily bread too." Ninmaḫ looked at Umul and turned to him. She went nearer to Umul asked him questions but he could not speak. She offered him bread to eat but he could not reach out for it. He could not lie on ……, he could not ……. Standing up he could not sit down, could not lie down, he could not …… a house, he could not eat bread. Ninmaḫ answered Enki: "The man you have fashioned is neither alive nor dead. He cannot support himself (?)."
102-110. Enki answered Ninmaḫ: "I decreed a fate for the first man with the weak hands, I gave him bread. I decreed a fate for the man who turned back (?) the light, I gave him bread. I decreed a fate for the man with broken, paralysed feet, I gave him bread. I decreed a fate for the man who could not hold back his urine, I gave him bread. I decreed a fate for the woman who could not give birth, I gave her bread. I decreed the fate for the one with neither penis nor vagina on its body, I gave it bread. My sister, ……."
reply to post by Harte
Thanks for the reply and the conversations. I really do appreciate them, and you time and experience on these topics.
KanuTruthThe link you provided is the exact same text of the Sumerian texts as the one I offered. Its not different or better. Just the same.
KanuTruthAnd, I do believe the original humanoids created were actually the genetic manipulations of Enki (The supreme Annuna) as he was creating human kind. They were the solution to relieve the lesser Annuna from the toils of working and mining the lands. All this too, is explained in these same texts.
reply to post by PerfectPerception
Dna, like any species', is a code. That doesn't make it designed. Fractals prove that a simple code can quickly program itself.
In addition, these aliens all look humanoid. Please refer to rule 1: things made in the image of man... are made by man.
The simple fact is that you are displaying typical ignorance of a creationist/alien interventionist, blah blah blah whatever. I'm all for God. But there is no proof that any creation event took place. All of human evolution is accounted for. There are no missing links. We see no interjection of DNA. We see no sudden miraculous intervention. No sudden mutation. Nothing. It's quite simply normal.
Pictures of caves can be anything from a beetle, to a ghost, to an astronaut, to a time traveler, to a sudden slipstream of spacetime to create the appearance of a life form. Simply put, it's not proof. It's not even evidence. It could be anything. In fact, like I said. If it's made in the image of man, it's made by man. Aliens are not going to look like us. please crawl out of that archaic view of evolution and life that has all but been deduced as fantasy.
There is no such thing as junk DNA. It is viral immunity more than anything. In addition, we see the same dna in other species, and less and less of it the further you go back. This is because those species have different immunities.
Taking drugs doesn't mean your an alien. It means you hay-wired your own mental projector. It's not recommended.
Your DNA that makes you human, and different from the animals, is a couple of genes that change your mind to be more efficient and exponential in thought.
Nothing you presented here shows any tiny bit of evidence of any sort of alien action. In fact, it doesn't even hint at any sort of intervention. It's guess work.
You show aliens in humanoid form with humanoid thoughts and desires. Nothing short of fantasy when projected upon scientific fact. Instead, in real science, we see a multitude of forms with intelligence. Anything from the Crow to the whale. Both, some would argue, are more intelligent than an ape. Form follows function in nature. We evolved because we are this way. Something somewhere else would not evolve into something like us because they are not us.
originally posted by: TheSparrowSings
What if it was not so much a "creation" as a genetic manipulation. Primitive man evolved naturally to a certain stage before being altered by alien species. After all, the myths of the past tell us that "gods" (or angels,elohim, whatever you want to call them from whatever myth you are reading) mixed with earth women. The Sumerians story seems to lean towards a dna mix.
So, in this case, no one had to have created our "creators". They could have evolved naturally, learned interstellar travel (and genetic manipulation, which as we know is already being done by scientists all over the current world) and come here, boosted humanity, gave us some basic tools to work with, gone home... and then be sorely mistaken by the humans that they left behind as something to be worshiped. ( I would assume that early man really enjoyed the company of these bringers of "life" and where sad to see them go.)
" I would assume that early man really enjoyed the company of these bringers of "life" and where sad to see them go"