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My good sir, the pyramids are a construction series. And contrary to popular belief, the 3 at Giza were not built at the same time. It is very likely that there was something there before. Ruins and what not. It's a logical assumption. But to say that the pyramids were there in whole is not. There is few to anything left behind from then due to looting, and I would require you to source your claim. but the fact is that the pyramids of Egypt were part of a construction series. The first being Zoser's, the last being the smallest of Giza, and ending due to Egypt's collapse as a government. They never built pyramids at that scale again. There was no reason. They took what they learned and went on to new things. You all worship the pyramids as their high point, but they were 1st grader work compared to later works. The Egyptians, once their government re-assembled, moved onto new architectures like Hephaestus's tomb, eventually developing temples.
"....Scholars have recognized an abrupt change in human culture about 11,000 B.C. - the time of the Deluge, according to our findings - and have named that era of domestication Mesolithic (Middle Stone Age). Circa 7400 B.C. - exactly 3,600 years later - another abrupt advancement has been recognized. Scholars have named it Neolithic ("New Stone Age"); but its principal feature was the switch from stone to clay and the appearance of pottery. And then, "suddenly and inexplicable" - but exactly 3,600 years later - there blossomed out (circa 3800 B.C.) in the plain between the Euphrates and Tigris rivers the high civilization of Sumer. It was followed, circa 3100 B.C., by the civilization of the Nile River; and circa 2800 B.C., the third civilization of antiquity, that of the Indus River, made its appearance. These were the three regions allotted to mankind; of them evolved the nations of the Near East, Africa, and Indo-Europe - a division faithfully recorded in the Old Testament’s Table of Nations.
There is no evidence to what you speak of, the the fact that each pyramid was recorded as built at different dates refutes your sourceless claim.
The few things that do remain are of Menkaure, the third in the lineage of kings and the last of the great builders. Thereafter 1 or 2 more were kings, and then the nation began to collapse, culminating in the 1st intermediate period 2 dynasties later. Menkaure was a wise and gentle king, whereby his father and grandfather were evil men. Hated and feared. This is a testemony in the size of his pyramid. He wasn't seeking glory. He sought respect and honor to the common people.
The biggest flaw here is the fact that Menkaure's father and grandfather were atheists. They closed the temples to the people and made themselves gods, testifying to the grand size of their pyramids. So I have to beg to question your sourceless claim. Why would an atheist close down temples and erase his nation's religion and in turn make himself a God and then go and clean up a supposed construction of god? He would have destroyed it, not cleaned it up for a tomb. It is contrary to fact.
Menkaure was a Godly many whom reopened the temples and cared more about the people than massive constructions.
"Going up the Ascending Passage, Ninurta reached its junction with the imposing Grand Gallery and a Horizontal Passage. Ninurta followed the Horizontal Passage first, reaching a large chamber with a corbelled roof. Called "vulva" in the Ninharsag poem, this chamber’s axis lay exactly on the east-west center line of the pyramid. Its emission ("an outpouring which is like a lion whom no one dares attack") came from a stone fitted into a niche that was hollowed out in the east wall. It was the SHAM ("Destiny") Stone. Emitting a red radiance which Ninurta "saw in the darkness," it was the pulsating heart of the pyramid. But it was anathema to Ninurta, for during the battle, when he was aloft, this stone’s "strong power" was used " to grab to kill me, with a tracking which kills to seize me." He ordered it "pulled out... be taken apart... and to obliteration be destroyed."
This move ended the pyramid phase of Egypt. There would be a few more here and there, but for the most part it was over. Egypt would enjoy a high point and then steady decline into disarray.
if you want to go all biblical, Egypt died around the same time of the flood in the Bible. Perhaps their increased hatred and vice lead to their own downfall.
Actually dolphins would be the only real good example. Like man, they evolved in a desert (the bottom of the ocean is more or less like one). Like man they reached the apex of their niche and there was nothing left to adapt to. like man they pretty much had freedom to become whatever they wanted, and so intelligence began to brew as culture and interspecies competition became more important than extra-species competition.
As to aliens needing slaves? really? if an alien society is so desperate for slavery they'd might as well make planet crackers or nanobots.
21 years ago, Zecharia Sitchin (linguistic scholar & historian of ancient Hebrew, Sumerian, Akkadian, and other early Mesopotamian civilizations) published The 12Th Planet (1976) which discusses the periodic return to our solar system of a large, red planet called Nibiru by ancient Sumerian historians (and Marduk by the Babylonians). Nibiru was home to a race of war-prone hominids referred to in ancient texts by either their earlier Sumerian name of Anunnaki or their later Hebrew name of Nefilim (the word Nefilim is mentioned repeatedly in the Bible). The Anunnaki are described as handsome, well developed human look-a-likes who are physically larger than humans; averaging 10-15 feet tall. While the rank and file astronauts who first came to Earth were called Anunnaki by Sumerian historians, the ruling royalty were always referred to as gods. The Anunnaki were technologically capable of interplanetary space travel when they first arrived on Earth about 450,00 years ago.
Nibiru was called the 12Th Planet by the ancients because it is a member of our solar system (ancients included the Moon and Sun as planets). However, unlike the other planets in our solar system, which are in a singular orbit around the sun, Nibiru is in a binary orbit (Z) between two suns: our sun and another cold [unlit] sun far out in our galaxy.
There's really no need for slaves ot get resources. You're viewing it like a human would. not an economist with no morals and an entire galactic empire at his back.
NEW DISCOVERIES CORROBORATE SITCHIN
New scientific discoveries continue to corroborate findings first suggested in Zecharia Sitchin's books.
Homo sapiens: The successful deciphering of a female Neanderthal genome was reported in the journal Science on February 13, 2009. The project, undertaken by scientists at the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig, Germany, aimed to verify when that failed species of humans and Homo sapiens (= Modern Man) branched off, and whether the two bad ever interbred. The New York Times pointed out that the new findings "document two important sets of genetic changes - those that occurred between 5.7 million years ago, when the human line split from the line leading to chimpanzees, and 300,000 years ago when Neanderthals and the ancestors of modern humans parted ways."
This, in my honest opinion, is the only logical conclusion for why aliens would visit or contact. not because they are better than us and want us, but because they are less than us and want what we have. Intelligence. How many other of the 100+ million species on Earth have minds like ours? Then how much more likely is it for a species not to have as great intelligence as us but still get into space?
Israeli archaeologists said Monday they may have found the earliest evidence yet for the existence of modern man, and if so, it could upset theories of the origin of humans.
You did not know of the Native American traditions of the great flood of tree of life.
In the beginning, in the Sky World, a pregnant wife asked her husband to fetch the delicacies she craved. But she wanted the bark of a root of the Great Tree in the middle of the Sky World, which none were permitted to touch.
Like I said, the holy spirit is God
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Wolfenz
1) Being the member of a culture gives you no right to claim expertise on it. I am part Czechoslovakian and no nothing of the former nation. I have linked you. A looong way back. but you dished it out like it was nothing. Perhaps specifics? You are not worth my time going back and relinking every link I ever posted.
2) You don't even know your own creation myth. She didn't fall from space. She fell from the sky. Sky people are a common analogy to people on a higher field of existence. Look down, what do you see? Dirt. Where the dead lie. Look up, what do you see? Infinite, changing scenes, day, night. Of course people would say they are from/ going to the sky. That's the only logical place to go.
3) Turtles supporting the sky people is another common scene from the the middle east onward to the far east and into the Americas. It has nothing to do with aliens. It's the simple fact that many of these people relied on these animals for food and support and their grace and wisdom from what they look like is commonly seen.
4 ) Not to mention none of this proves what you've been saying, neither is itself provable.
5) Assuming again. I do not mean all native Americans have the same culture.
6) Yes. God the three in one. Hard to comprehend. Not hard to understand. You just can't see two equal wholes as one, with the very connection being a whole itself. I can see those. Don't know why you can't. It has to be halves for you. It has to be physical. It has to be comprehensibly. My good sir. if your religion is comprehendable, then it's not a religion. It's a manmade myth.
Allow me to point out your flaw. If your aliens are understandable, then they are not aliens. They are just made up things with human characteristics. The case classic for something made by man. man does not make things it cannot understand.
There's no debate in my religion about it. Just people who don't understand something quite easy.
Assuming a turtle is a ufo is also assuming ufos are real and that they are from alien origins. There is no undeniable proof for aliens being here. People's claims are worthless because human sensors are flawed and subject to personal interpretation. There is no proof aliens are here nor that they ever have been here. All you'd have to do is steal the most smallest of artifacts. A desk weight. And we'd have proof. Nothing exists. And periodically we get half-reported claims of such things that just disappear from the news, begging to question their legitimacy. There remains no proof ufos are from alien. And to assume that because a turtle is round that it means a ufo is, again, a subjective baseless claim based off half truths and assumptions. Not fact.
Like I said. From a purely human standpoint, nothing is true and everything is permitted. But that only leaves one logical pathway for such thoughts then: That science is the better path.
Evolution is just as much speculation as ancient aliens. But there is thousands more times more evidence for it.
There is just as much possibility for either of us to be right. But the proof is far far far more leaning in my favor.
Thus we are faced with a very simple fact. While it is 100% possible for aliens to have done anything they wanted whenever they wanted (let's remember, they're aliens. For all we know, every electron is an alien from another universe and that's their shadow), But there is simply neither room nor undeniable proof for them.
Thus until we have this, there's no reason to assume anything. We mus ask. What is the proof? What is the evidence?
It is that man owns his own future. Man owns his own timeline. We have made all we have and we are on our own path.
5 million years ago: Humanity breaks off from the apes.
2.5 million years ago: what it means to be human is defined by evolution, as Australopithecus loses the race to our ancestors.
1 million years ago: The human form begins to go in our direction
500,000 years ago: Human body begins to finalize
200,000: human body forms in its pre-modern form. inter-species Competition of sex strength and smarts will govern the rest of our development, not environmental adaptation nor changes.
100,000 years: human brain finalizes form
50,000 years: behavioral modernity and the conclusion of human evolution.
25,000 years ago: early societies
10,000 years ago: basic towns and what not
5,000 years ago: first civilizations
2,500 years ago: First scientific methods and mathematical understandings:
Zeus: Perseus has won. My son has triumphed.
Hera: A fortunate young man.
Zeus: Fortune is ally to the brave.
Thetis: What a dangerous precedent. What if there more heroes like him? What if courage and imagination became everyday mortal qualities? What will become of us?
Zeus: We would no longer be needed. But, for the moment, there is sufficient cowardice, sloth and mendacity down there on Earth to last forever.