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No. It was recognized. If you read the bible, it was always confirmed.
What you display are the advanced drawings as derived of those first pictures.
Once again, homocentricism and anthropomorphic fallacies. If you were to only look at Giza, you would have nothing but to logically assume aliens made it. But if you look at Zoser and all pyramids in between, there is a clear linear development, made by man.
In as much as Da Vinchi's drawings of God are not the beginning, your little relic from Sumeria is not the beginning.
In fact, a fat acorn-head woman is the beginning statue for all your precious myths.
So again, stop bending your evidence and actually provide proof. Can you do this?
Originally posted by Wolfenz
Originally posted by PerfectPerception
reply to post by Wolfenz
Thank you for the links & info.
You make some good points.
I have heard of an alien race that resemble felines-called the lion people.Also referred as 'Lyrians' and responsible for seeding life on many different planets.
"lyrian is the mother race of off all intellegent races. Lyrians were around well before other races, and were responsible for the seeding of many many cultures and races."
here is a link for some speculative information-
I have always been interested in werewolves in folklore & fiction.
very fascinating creatures and ideas surrounding their lore.
Also,cannot forget all the Indian legends involving skin-walkers.edit on 9-2-2011 by PerfectPerception because: (no reason given)
thanks for the Reply I am from those legends, There strong on both side's of my heritage
Werewolves of Ossory are considered the opposite of one might think there the Protectors & Defenders of Man according to Legend ,, Another is Native American Iroquois Mohawk Werewolf the Limmikin
My area has a long History, has many Legends of Mystical Beast's The Most known in The Lake Champlain Monster that is a lot like Scotland Loc ness Monster ( Nessie)
Wolf -Bonobo ? Human Compare ( Skull ) it Looks like a transformation in which we all know it's Not..
about the lyrians
Let see what i can remember for the influence for young adolescents about Lion men
1) 80s Tv Cartoon - Thunder Cats
2) 90s Pc Game & Movie Wing commander - The Kilrathi
3) 2000s Avatar NAVI
4) 80s Tv series Beauty and the Beast - Vincent
5) 90s Movie Sleepwalker
6) 80s Movie Cat people
7) Island of Dr Morenu - Leopard man - Lo Mai
Wing Commander 3: Heart of Tiger - Angel's Death
as i see it anything is possible
from the Rodent to the Man
Question is ,, can Man Now Create a Bipedal Chimera's a Feline-Man
I know for Sure Earthen Man is playing around with Genetic Engineering Splicing
so in that realm Man could create Alter Modify Animals & Plants
that, Phillip K Dick & HG Wells would of loved to see just need a Group of Scientist just Bold Enough to do it
have you watched?
The Documentary called Animal Farm ( no not George Orwell's )
Animal Farm episode 1 p1
Just a Teaser
Mouse With Human Brain May Live
Date: 17 February 2005 Time: 02:02 AM ET
The Article Above goes on about when if Mice Start Reacting in a Human like behavior its time to stop.
as Professor Henry T. Greely Quoted ... a director of the Center for Law and the Bioscience...
Professor Henry T. Greely, director of the Center for Law and the Biosciences and leader of the committee that considered the proposal, told the San Jose Mercury News, "We concluded that if we see any signs of human brain structures . . . or if the mouse shows human-like behaviors, like improved memory or problem-solving, it's time to stop."
after reading the Article
It Started to make me think of a Animated Cartoon Called
The Secrets of NIMH becoming a reality if any of those Mice Escaped we will have those Mythical Pixie Brownies, Upright Bipedal Rodents little people Come to life
The Secrets of NIMH
en.wikipedia.org...edit on 12-2-2011 by Wolfenz because: (no reason given)
Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man;
Your picture shows Neanderthals as our ancestors. This is failure of science 101. Humans are not descendant from Neanderthals. We have no missing link. We came from Homo erectus. And there are half a dozen transitional species in between. I already linked you. You apparently ignored it.
And not only that, you're wrong in terms of universal essence of myth. only 2 things are widely seen, not even universal. A tree of life and a flood. Infer from that what you will.
And I also feel if very very offensive that ancient people could not conceive of such things. That's just bollock flavored bollocks over bollock soup. We can fathom the same things back then as today
Major Themes and Myths
Throughout Melanesia some common mythological themes and characters appear. Many myths deal with two fundamental issues: where people came from and what happens after death. Certain characters—such as snakes, monsters, and twins—can be found in legends from numerous islands.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Allred5923
It was not that abnormal. Dolphins evolved the same brain scale in10-15 million years, as well as whales.
Yet all evidence points that the Egyptians did not build these pyramids. The Great Pyramid was attributed to Pharaoh Khufu by Herodotus, whom he called Cheops in the famous Greek tradition of renaming everything their way. Yet the pyramid itself bears absolutely no marks relating it to Khufu in any way. On the contrary, there is the so-called Inventory Stela on which Khufu wrote how he came to the site and did some cleaning and maintenance work around the monuments that had been standing there already since times immemorial.
50 million years ago:
And 40 million years ago
And not only that, but brain size isn't even an indication of intelligence. have you researched the crow? It has a brain the size of a a peanut, and yet intelligence on par, and perhaps even better than, the ape.
And our own species saw no benefit for bigger brains. In fact, it was not the size that gave us who we are, it was how we used it. The human brain got to this size before the human being evolved. I like to point out the fact that the human form of an upright bipedal organism developed 5 million years ago. This became the actual form we still use today roughly 200,000 years ago. This then scaled up for a while, and then around 70,000 years ago was more or less what we have now. Then, roughly 50,000 years ago, something happened. We were pushed to the edges of extinction and were forced to use what we have at its max. Those that could not died, those that could went on. This event did not cause any change to any part of our body except the neurons. This event caused what scientists now call "behavioral modernity" and is where we draw the line between homo sapiens, and homo sapien sapiens.
If you want to point out a line where we became human, it doesn't exist. if you want to look at the blurry line that is where we began to act like who we are, it's at that point 50,000 years ago.
So you see, there's nothing special about humanity. Our form did not give us whom we are. The time that it took us to get there is nothing special, dolphins elephants, crows, and apes all got to their forms in the same time. Most species take 2 million years to get to where they are. There's nothing special about us. We simply got here first, and murdered the 6+ something other species heading in the same direction.
And to end with that, we've not stopped. People tend to group humans between the critical thinkers and the noncritical thinkers. Some guesses put it at 25% critical, 75% non-critical. These are guesses however, and it's a big no-no to say we are unequal. But it's more of a learned trait than evolution.
Ok, I'll be honest. There is something about humanity that makes us special. It's that ability. Our hardware got so far, that we haven't even reached the full software capabilities of it. But stop right there. The statement "we only use 10% of our brains" is a complete lie. in fact, we use all our brains, we just do not use more than 10% of it at any given time. There's your intelligence. The software has not yet evolved to know how to use more of the brain, even though the hardware got us there. We evolved to have a subconscious and have free will to do what we want. And that means putting a block on being able to use all your brain at the same time. You can't. And that's a good thing
As to the cargo cults, clearly people do not think them gods nor do they do everything else we assume ancient people would do for aliens. In fact, they tried to ask for more, and then gave up. Christianity has nothing to do with it. It's simple logic. They thought they could get something, they didn't. No point in trying again.
And to return to the before comment, you will not find some hippi alien going around making things in their image and spreading intelligence. You'll only find aliens more interested in allowing its own people freedom and viewing the natives as threats to be destroyed if they dare go a different way then themselves.
Bare in mind I would love to discuss alien societies and what might be out there over PMs and such because it's not directly related. I think you'd like to hear some stuff I've thought up.edit on 15-2-2011 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
HISTORY OF HUMANITY ON PLANET EARTH
The earth is very old, but humanity is not. There has been a very long and evolved biological journey, and many have called it evolution. Indeed, the biology of the planet evolved, and that is the sacred way God chose to develop it. It's not contrary to anything but the limited thinking of many Humans who wish it wasn't that way.
Let me take you back a very short time ago, as I see it, as the rocks see it. Let me paint a picture of the planet for you. I'm giving my partner much to look at and many facts, and there may be pauses while he gets it right. For these things of which I speak will be transcribed and seen by thousands.
One hundred thousand years ago was the beginning of what you would call the enlightened Human Being. That's all - just 100,000 years. Oh, there was humanoid development long before that, but the Human Being had no spiritual equipment, you might say, within the DNA. It was just biology. Your anthropologists will tell you about the age of Humans. They will dig up many bones and tell you many stories about how old humanity may be. Those are just biologically evolved creatures, not yet part of the scenario where angelic beings are part of the DNA.
The story I'm going to tell you is one that we have hinted at many times. But let me paint the picture first: There was much evolved biology by then. There were up to 20 kinds of Human Beings on the planet, and your anthropologists have identified many of them. They were all very different, you know? Some had heads that were shaped differently, and some even had tails. Up to 20 kinds of Human Beings existed together. This is a fact of normal evolution on the planet, for if you look at any mammal, there will be much variety. That is the way nature works and it was working well, even 100,000 years ago. Twenty kinds of Human Beings were in development. There were several places where they were being developed faster than others and your anthropologists know of those. It didn't start in one place on the planet. They were in places that you would call Western Europe, or the Middle East and another unusual place - the middle of the Pacific Ocean! I'll explain in a moment. Evolution was slowly creating many kinds of Human Beings, just like nature does with everything.
Then the planet was touched by design - sacred design.
With sacred design, this planet was visited in a quantum way by enlightened creatures who were not angels. It's hard to describe how such a thing would be, but it was. Listen, there is life abundant in this Universe, and some of it is in lessons like you and some of it is not. There are biological creatures living on planets like yours, with atmospheres like yours, but where there is no war. They live in a quantum state, where there is agreement of what they're there for. They represent societies twice as old as Earth. Humanity and such an enlightened group existed back then and it still does to this day. It is located light years away from you, yet you were visited by them easily. They came to this planet to plant the seeds of sacredness within your DNA. They came with permission, by design, and within the agreement of all the angelic beings in the Universe. It wasn't an accident, and it wasn't part of a conquering plan. It was their loving job.
I speak of the Pleiadians, and much has been said about them. For when you speak of these things, where one kind of creature comes and touches a whole planet, there would be those who would say, "Well, that has to be inappropriate, that has to be evil, that has to be wrong." It wasn't. There's been much misinformation about the Pleiadians. Let me tell you if you could see them right now, they look much like you! And some day should you get to a place where it is appropriate, they will meet you. They'll call you brother, sister, and if you took a sample of their cellular structure, it would look much like yours. For they have the seeds of enlightenment of the Human race, and they have wisdom and love for the earth, for you are their seeds.
What they gave this planet is difficult to describe to you in a three-dimensional discourse. For using the gifts of being in a quantum state with everything, they gave humanity on the planet two extra layers of DNA. And it happened all at once to only one of the 20 kinds of humans, the kind you have now. Only one kind was ready to receive this gift.
Ask your anthropologists about this. Oh, don't ask them about the Pleiadians! Instead, ask them what happened about 100,000 years ago to Human Beings. They will tell you that against the natural odds of it happening, only one kind of Human Being emerged on the planet. What about the other 19? They slowly died away, unable to compete with the ones with the new DNA. This is counterintuitive to nature, and should raise the eyebrows of those who look at natural selection. So it is something to take note of, and provides proof of what I am telling you.
This becomes the story of creation in much mythology on the planet. Since it happened so quickly and so recently in Earth's history, it carries with it the feeling that it was done all at once, with nothing having evolved to let it take place. Hence, the thought by many that evolution didn't happen at all, and that God created Humans instantly. You see? There is a seed of truth to all things, but they are often placed into a 3D box to make it easier to explain. A beautiful garden, temptation representing good and evil - this is, indeed, close to the metaphysical view of what happened when the one group of humans received their two new awareness DNA layers. For suddenly they began to act out the process of duality, the awareness of light and dark.
The extra layers were a set up for the test of Earth, which would become the only planet of free choice of its time. One layer would include the Akashic Record, the record of all the angelic souls who would come and go within the Human body. Humanity began to become spiritual - not all at once, but very, very slowly over another 50,000 years. Angels began the process of coming into the planet, using the Human body as the vehicle to create this test of Earth. Only then did the Human Being become what you start to see now. This means that true enlightened humanity is actually only about 50,000 years old - very new indeed!
The earth was different then. So I would like to take you to approximately 40,000 years ago. Here is a great civilization on the planet, and it has existed in an elemental form already for more than 5,000 years. It was the grandest society the planet had ever seen - not huge in numbers, but in consciousness. It was not something that you would be emulating later, for it was part of the set-up of humanity. It was the Lemurian civilization. I've never identified how long they lasted, so I will now. What would you think of one society that lasted more than 20,000 years? They lived in peace. It would dwarf, would it not, anything that has ever happened in recorded society on the earth? Nothing you know of comes close to that.
Scientists say, "It's impossible. There were no societies that long ago." Indeed, there is no proof, and that, my dear Human Beings, is very much on purpose. For the planet does a very good job of erasing the marks of humanity. Just look at what you are studying today, for you can't find anything much older than 4,000 years! It has been churned up, mulched, ground under, washed away, and lost forever. To make the erasure even more complete, back then the society was on dry land in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Now it's not.
The timeline: So the core of Lemurian beginnings was about 50,000 years ago. It took 10,000 years to call themselves united, and another 5,000 to begin to come together as a society with a common control center. The Lemurians had a full-fledged, mature civilization from 35,000 years ago to about 15,000 years ago. Remember that things lasted a very long time and were very slow in the early days of developing humanity. What takes you a year to do today may have taken hundreds back then. Language was an issue, communications was new, travel was very slow, and sovereignties had never even been tried. Whereas you might have two meetings a day, they would have two a year, often not even that. Their sense of time was far different in that they had a quantum consciousness, almost a timeless state of being.
Let me take you to Lemuria. Let me describe Earth at this time, for it was so different then. There are those who would laugh and scoff and make fun of these pronouncements. The Pacific Ocean is huge! "There was never a time when there was no water in it unless you go back millions of years." Not true. I didn't say all of it. I only said the portion where Lemurians settled. Let me paint the picture for you.
Planet Earth was rotating at 28 degrees on its axis. That was the tilt of the earth, and it's not the one you have today. In addition, geologically, the planet was much different 40,000 years ago. You were at the end of the greatest ice age you had ever experienced. The temperature of this planet is dependent on how much water is on it. The water cycle of the planet is what controls the temperature and the wind. What I'm showing you now in this vision is a very different Earth.
At that time, one-third of all of the water on the planet was ice. That created oceans a great deal different from the ones you see today. Let me take you to the Lemurian civilization. It was a much colder planet back then. Some of you are aware of what one-half of one degree in temperature change will do to life on Earth. If you had the average temperature of this planet dip by one-half a degree on an average, it would be significant. So let me tell you what it was then so you can imagine the changes. The average temperature of the atmosphere was eight degrees lower than it is now - very significant for the weather and very significant for the amount of water that was on the planet.
The average water level of the oceans of the planet was 133 meters lower than it is now - that's 400 feet lower. Can you imagine from the air what your continents would look like if the oceans were 400 feet lower than they are now? Mountain ranges would be exposed that are currently now underwater. It would be much different, would it not? The Lemurians lived successfully for more than 20,000 years around the base of the island you call Hawaii. This was, and remains, the highest mountain on the planet, measured from its base.
They were aware they lived in a basin, a valley, which was lower than the average water level of the earth. There was much water around the Lemurians. But the main seas were held back by some of the mountain ranges that are currently lower today, but which existed due to plate tectonics. And so you have an arrangement, a situation, which is complex. But they did have dry land in some of the places today that you call the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. They were also aware that for all of this time they were vulnerable to the water level of the planet, should it rise. As long as it stayed cool, they were fine. But they also knew they lived in the shadow of the "hot spot" of what we know today as a large tectonic plate. And they knew it would move, since it had before. The islands they worshiped upon were all active volcanoes. They were drawn to this energy of volcanism.
I have much more to tell you about the Lemurians. So let us move now to the spiritual part. There were a total of 350 million Lemurian souls who passed through the planet during their culture of 20,000 years. That's not many considering they went through 800 generations. Let me explain why.
Now, this is different, my partner, and this is specific. So translate it correctly. [Kryon speaking to Lee out loud for all to hear] Lemurians didn't reincarnate back as Lemurian. So what I'm saying spiritually is that there were almost 350 million individual, unique souls - not just Human souls, but 350 million angels took their turns going through the Lemurian culture as Humans, and didn't reincarnate. They came one time only. The Lemurian birth rate was not typical to what yours is today, not nearly what yours is today. It wasn't even a geometric progression like you have today. This is complicated. Biologically, there was a reason why the Lemurians did not have many children. It had to do with the temperature of the planet and their culture. Men were not as fertile as they are now. It also facilitated the spiritual aspects of what was needed. So all you must know is that of the Lemurian spiritual culture, 350 million souls is all there were, representing the longest-lasting society the earth has ever known. More on that in a moment.
Fifteen thousand years ago, the ice started melting, and the Lemurians knew it. It was slow, and they did their best to hold it back. By this time the Lemurians had become a sea-faring society, and most were in boats. They knew what was going to happen eventually, and they became very interested in ships. And this is when the Lemurian nation began to split up. It happened faster than they thought, because they didn't understand the significance of the new weight distribution of the water, and what it would do to the earth's crust movement [lots of earthquakes].
Their volcanic basin began to quiver and move faster, letting the water in. From 15,000 years ago to 10,000 years ago, the water balance of the earth changed and poured into the valleys of Lemuria. It filled up the valley between mountains. It wiped away all of anything they ever had in construction, anything they had ever built. Nature does that, you know. Go back and look at the ruins that are less than a thousand years old on the planet and see what has happened. Now think of ruins that are 15,000 years old under the ocean where the currents roar. There is nothing left. Some of the Lemurians stayed on the mountain, climbing it as the water rose. Ten thousand years ago, the water stopped rising, representing the water levels that are similar to what you see today. The top of the Lemurian capital mountain is now a series of islands called Hawaii.
The water cycle of the earth is what makes it warm and cold, and it is dynamic and always in motion. To leap forward many years, there have been many back and forth temperature changes of this planet. Almost all of them outlived each Human Being [meaning that no Human was alive long enough to see an entire cycle]. Cycles as short as 200 years were common. So most of humanity is unaware of anything except that it's changing, unaware of the normal cycles. You had several small ice cycles recently. Only a few hundred years ago, in the 1400s, you had one where the glaciers started to build up again. Temperatures of the planet went down a bit and then came back. It is typical of the planet and the way it works.
The interesting thing is before these small little ice events, there is something that doesn't make sense to the Human Being. It gets warm! It's part of the cycle. You're having one again, and you're at the beginning of a water cycle that will turn to a lower temperature eventually. It's typical, cyclical, and normal. Just ask any rock.
Some of the Lemurians climbed the mountains and you can meet their ancestors today. They're called the Polynesians and they know all about the oceans. They know about the tides. They were there before the tides were there! They watched them build up and be created. They can take small, little craft and move from island to island, hundreds of kilometers apart, without a compass. They know the way it works, the oceans, the tides. Some even claim their ancestors to be Lemurian.
The following is scientifically controversial, for what I'm going to tell you is that small meteor strikes were more common than belieived, in these times. As little as 13,000 years ago and then 5,000 years ago, there were strikes. The last one of 5,000 years ago was bigger. It did two things for the planet. The first is that it created such a shift of the mantel of the planet that the earth moved from 28 degrees tilt to 23 and 1/3. It was quite an impact! That was only 5,000 years ago. The second is that it affected civilization. Much dust was thrown into the atmosphere up into what you call the stratosphere and the result mainly was rain. The rain terminated much of humanity. Many animals and many Humans died. It was needed, necessary, and we have spoken of it before. It was part of the plan. The main purpose was to erase all of the Lemurian knowledge and create many lakes for humanity to use. Science can see it in the strata, and it has even been associated with the mythology of a great worldwide flood and an ark.
It's interesting, is it not? There are those who would call themselves creationists. They will argue with you against the evolution of humanity. In a way, both sides are right. For the biology of humanity evolved very slowly. But the sacredness was given all at once, just like the story of the Garden of Eden, called Lemuria.
When we describe the times that we have given you in years, we consider where you sit right now as year zero. So we go back from zero to when we describe something 40,000 years ago, 100,000 years, or 10,000 years. This is opposed to a time frame that would be in reference to any prophet that ever lived. So for those who are interested in checking some of the history of the planet for verification of this message, do it backwards from this year as zero. If there are some actual dates that we wish to discuss, we will give them in the kind of date numbers you would expect and use.
The Lemurian civilization basically existed from 35,000 years to 15,000 years ago - the longest single-governed civilization on Earth. It was different from any society you will ever have, for we will review with you what happened. The whole reason for Lemuria and for all of the attributes of their DNA was to set a stage for what was to come. When the cook prepares the meal, quite often they will grease the pan, get all of the attributes ready for the actual food, and then proceed with much preparation that will enhance the food, but that does not include the actual food yet.
The Lemurians represented that relationship to Earth and you. In a spiritual way, the meal was being prepared. Therefore, we again tell you that they had a different Akashic attribute than you do. Three hundred and fifty million Lemurians existed for the lifetime of their culture. They were unique Lemurians, and with a few exceptions, each one had one life. You might say they were building the Akashic Record of the planet. Imagine the Cave of Creation with all of the crystals we have described as the souls on the planet. Each time an angel would come in and be a Lemurian for a little while. The essence of their energy would then be placed into the planet. The crystal with their name on it would go into the cave. Some of these things will not make sense to those of you who have not heard this story before about the Cave of Creation. The entire Lemurian civilization was to build the Cave of Creation and to implant it with the energy of 350 million souls. And in all of their history, there were only a few thousand that had past lives that would come again as a Lemurian - most being their scientists. The rest of them would live a life and then back away and wait for the civilization to be complete [speaking of the angels who represent the different souls of humanity]. This was on purpose, and was in order to seed the planet spiritually with what was to come, and increase the crystalline value of the Cave of Creation.
The Lemurians saw what was happening. As we told you, about 15,000 years ago, the ice began to melt, and it did so slowly for at least another 5,000 years. You might say they had plenty of time to prepare, and so they did. What they did first was to become a sea-faring nation building ships. Slowly, many of them left the valley that they were in, which was already slowly flooding, as the ice melted and the waters rose on the planet. So you might say that there is part of Lemurian society that populated the edges of other land masses via ship. Look for them in New Zealand, Easter Island - not much left there - and the large continent of what you call the Americas. They were on the West Coast areas you call Alaska and the bridge to the other continent. They were there. Many of them went to the mountain called Shasta and they existed there in their Human form long before they put themselves into the mountain as interdimensional beings.
Some of them started other societies in combination with other Humans who had traveled far from the core, and had forgotten their lineage completely. One of the cultures was called Summerian, and was in the Middle East. This eventually led to the Egyptian culture many years later. It's odd that this is where you think history actually started!
Now here is something we have not told you before. All evidence of old Lemuria has been erased. The ocean currents under the seas are very strong; almost like rivers they surge, washing with sand and silt for eons. So there are those who say, "That means we'll never find the artifacts of Lemuria." Not only will you find some, you have already, and many are hiding them. Because when these collectors show them to science, they'll be laughed at. For there will be an oxymoron... a contradiction within the actual artifact. It will be too old to be what it is! At least according to modern thinking, that is. What would happen if you found an automobile part that carbon dated to 3,000 years ago? It would be an artifact that "couldn't exist." That's what the artifacts of Lemuria will be like. For they will be charts of the stars and biological information that "couldn't have been known."
And why would anyone be able to have an artifact of Lemuria? I just told you that Lemuria is washed away. It's because of the ships! Many of them went down in storms carrying everyday Lemurian objects - artifacts. Some are waiting to be found, and some have already been found and sequestered by collectors who cannot get anyone to look at them because they don't make sense. There's more.
There are those who would confuse Lemuria with what you have called Atlantis. Now here is information that many won't believe. For not much is really known about Atlantis. Your historians are guessing. Let me tell you about Atlantis. There are two of them - old Atlantis and young Atlantis. They are far, far apart, both physically and in time. The one that is being searched for now is much younger than you might think. For the new Atlantis civilization had a great deal of similarity to the Egyptian civilization at the same time. One was a result of evolution of men from Western Europe, and the other was a result of evolution of men from the Middle East.
"Kryon, where is the most recent Atlantis?" Well, let me give you a hint: It is close by. Look for it on the other side of the boot. That's all I'm going to say. [Remember that this channelling was being given in the western Mediterranean Sea, so these referenced directions are from where the cruise ship was in the ocean at that moment. The other side of the boot (other side of the bottom of Italy), from where the ship was sailing, places it near Greece and Crete. The cruise ship had just left Rome when this information was given.]
"Kryon, where is old Atlantis?" The answer is that it was in the Pacific, far from the newer one, and ancient in comparison. It was a settlement of Lemuria, and did not hold the Lemurian consciousness for long. It became the model for slavery and decadence. Technology was misused. It is not for me to give more about that now.
So now you know about the Lemurians. You also know that they are not what you have today in the way of consciousness. They're part of the set-up of the test, and you have lost a piece and a part of the activation of the DNA that they had through the energy you have selected for your duality. And that is free choice, to see if you can realize it and get it back. And that is the quantum part of DNA. It is what we have called the Lemurian and Pleiadian layers and one of them is the Akashic Record. Now, if you're putting this together, you'll also realize that Lemurians were responsible for the creation of the cosmic Akashic Record of Earth.
All of them. Christ called himself "I am that I am". IE, God. he called God his personal father, and he said he existed from before his own birth, before humanity itself. These are clear indications he exists in par with God.
Yes, a child could have etched the idea, and then an artist taken the idea and etched it better, and then the myth became real to those. Please do not try to turn my own argument against me. You will fail at this. The Genesis of the idea could have come from anyone and anything. Not aliens.
A perfect example of this is the flying spaghetti monster. Artists now etch beautiful forms of it, from what started as a mspaint scribble.
Saying something had to go far and therefore aliens or someone did it is a fallacy. Not only have we in modern times observed people move multi-ton stones miles away, but you also are assuming that there was no quarry closer that ran out.
No, the council of Nicea made him fully human and fully God. Not half and half.
To quote the council:
Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man;
Your failure to understand that is not my problem.
once again, please do not try to turn something against me when you don't even know what you're talking about. You will fail.
The sudden appearance of something being claimed to be divinly or intelligently inspired is.... here's the drums:
... Intelligent design is a failure of science.
Just because there exists no prior form to it does not mean it popped out of no where. You assume if you think otherwise. Assumption is not fact, proof, nor truth.
And again, showing the same picture does not make you any more right. Your beliefs can be made into the same insult. Why? Subjective. You are incredibly subjective and I think you don't even understand what thinking critically or objective thought even means.
Your picture shows Neanderthals as our ancestors. This is failure of science 101. Humans are not descendant from Neanderthals. We have no missing link. We came from Homo erectus. And there are half a dozen transitional species in between. I already linked you. You apparently ignored it.edit on 15-2-2011 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
No, we don't. The Bible says that a soul is created in the womb. God does not say he knows you and has plans for you since before you were in the womb, he says he knows you and has plans for you since you were in the womb., A clear distinction. There is also some evidence that the soul is not immortal. That at the end of days, those souls in hell are doomed. But then again, revelations says all eternity. So one does not know, and one shouldn't care, but perhaps you should, considering you're so wrong on so many things.
Why don't you read the Bible yourself? How about the Koran? How about something besides a few old myths from dead people.
I'm not twisting anything. You can't twist air. Your idea and mine are equally possible, along with anything else. You are attaching your own necessity. there HAD to be a being. When in fact there is no need. Children everyday in preschool design crazy ideas, and I as an architect sometimes take those ideas of scribbles and turn them into formal works of art. Children have great ideas. it's called imagination. It's not real. Adults loose that but their kids bring it back to them. I watch what children draw and am amazed at their imagination.
Once again, you are forcing your own viewpoint that there had to be an alien observed. In fact, there is no need for this assumption. Thus there is no proof it was an alien.
Tell me, did you actually look at the picture you posted to me? Tell me, what's the difference? Height, skull size,pelvic bone, and knee is all I see. And those are perfectly expectable. They've been what's been adapting to changing environments for eons now. What is not fit and is under competition. We see this echo in our modern society. Tell me, what does pelvic, skull, and leg bring to mind? Why it should be obvious. Sex, smarts, and physical fitness. The big three to picking a mate. Clearly, the fact that these are the biggest things in mate selection and the fact that these are the three things that have changed the most with humanity, shows a clear path for evolution.
Thanks, man. You just proved that no alien was needed.
Do I have to bother reading the rest? it's getting really boring hearing your desperate cries for being right.
If the hindus say differently its because they are hindu. Therefore, how can anything you say be true if everyone has different opinions? Clearly if everyone is different, no myth can be certain to be true.
Past lives are the biggest jokes ever. I started having memories of lives that are not mine at a very young age and still do. They are fabrications of what you want to be.
My brain has created the following personalities, with lifetimes of memories from them. Mind you, not all of them have come about yet:
-A Roman soldier stationed in Spain, standing in the beautiful Spanish wheat fields, looking over his new villa. Roughly a week or 2 of this man's life is in my mind
you have been watching Gladiator to much Gorman91
-Another Roman soldier in Scotland, over the wall. He's looking at rolling fields. It's rainy. There's maybe some fire in some scenes. Again, some 2 weeks or so of his life.
-The general of a human-alien hybrid leading his soldiers against an unknown foe. The aliens I've described above. They were not as intelligent as man, having got to where they are through trial and error. They bred the hybrids to fight their war for them. This individual I have many many memories of. He led fleets of millions of ships to defend the borders of our galactic arm. They empire had constructed warp walls at the edge of the galactic arm so that only their stargates could allow inter-arm travel. His greatest defeat was at the northern Stargate (they considered north towards the galactic core and south away from it). Here, 10 million ships faced off against the Siliban, a group of federalist traders. Their ships came storming in through the gate. They had lost control of it and the Hybrid and his army was trying to take it back. The great battle utterly destroyed their fleet, and the last move was a desperate one. They targeted the stargate and blew it to pieces. The remainder of the Siliban had to retreat, but the warp wall was in the way. The hybrid turned the battler around. That was one of the most amazing memories ever. There were also ones of his post-war architecture, siege of the capital as the hybrids attacked their creators, and the post-revolt empire that the hybrids established, enslaving the creators and forcing them into subsidiary positions. This all occurring thousands of years ago.
-A soldier whom died in Somalia, black hawk down style. Not much from his memories
- A soldier in WW3. Probably my own life. At one point A great battle in the Mississippi river. Another point I'm in the south west US, fighting an enemy I do not know. My enemies were other Americans, my allies Americans and Mexican army members. At another point I'm on a wall by the dried up Mississippi river. I'm eating with a friend like one of those construction workers in the old 1920's photos from a skyscraper worker. Behind me is a post-apocalyptic landscape, and a huge, grand white tower pumping clean air into the dead. I feel like I should be wearing a mask.
-Possibly the same person above in a later war. I'm standing in Brooklyn. Bombers are bombing New York city and I'm wearing a strange uniform, maybe a trench coat. I fly a flag that is not my own, we all do. We are fighting others with flags not familiar. This series of war dreams ends with Strange tanks marching into Moscow.
*The above seem to take part across a world union being founded.
-A soldier many years later. I'm on a spaceship. We're making first contact. Strangely enough, the person we contact is the hybrid above. I'm interwebbing my own timeline it seems. We're exploring space and first contact is not fun. The hybrids do not look human, nor do they breathe our air nor do they speak our language. We don't know what to do, but a machine is used to create a mental connection and speak with pictures.
-A victim of another first contact. This one an unknown foe. It's a supercomputer stretching across a galaxy. It has control over space and time, and is as close to God as one can get without being God. We are killed. Humanity is slaughtered.
-Many eons later, a human child born into a non-human world. It seems the same genes of the one above. This world is on Mars, teraformed. Eons after the unknown destroyed mankind, the people mankind bioengineered to live on a half terraformed mars have rebuilt. They apparently found me on an ancient ship underground. I'm the first pure-bred human in millions of years.
So as you can see, my mind is perfectly capable of fabricating far more diverse and interesting past and future lives.
Can you prove it borrowed anything beyond holidays?
Also, like I said, most any pre-Christian religion can be traced to India, and early Hinduism some would argue. And yet you use that same religion to contrast Christianity.
What is borrowed? Zeitgeist has been proven wrong, btw.
No. it's children who blind too. Children are perfectly capable of beating their own creativity out.
Oh and don't use the flawed "if x didn't exist we'd be thousands of years ahead by now". Humanity is a self destructive species. If it wasn't religion it'd be race. If not race, culture. If not culture, eye color. If not, this or that. Eventually, you can only say one thing. If we were just advancing and not doing those things, then we wouldn't be human. To be human is to be capable of those things and chose the better. Not to never do those things and be a godly race of automatons.
Tell me. If competition of the best members of a species is targeted to strength, smarts, and sexual pleasure, then why are aliens needed to put anything in our genes? This competition will inevitably lead to us.
Thus far the evidence you claim proves you right is proving you wrong. because now you do not need aliens to do a damn thing. Evolution is doing it for you.