Obama the most polarizing president in decades

Obama the most polarizing president in decades

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No president in recent decades had polarized the American public in their second year as much as President Barack Obama, according to polling organization Gallup.

During his second year in office, an average of 81 percent of Democrats approved of the job Obama was doing. But only 13 percent of Republicans expressed approval. That left a 68 point approval gap between the two parties.

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If we are to take any 'poll' seriously, and Gallup is probably one of the more notorious ones, then this truly shows what a sad state of affairs our nation is in. I think this is less of a story of OBAMA being polarizing, and more of a story of our NATION being polarized, and still asleep as to what is being done to them as a whole, and what is truly going on here...

Because if nothing else, people should have AWOKEN and UNITED here, to the fact that this current administration is nearly an EXACT DUPLICATE of the previous one, and that "party affiliation" and "loyalty" to these leaders or groups simply shows that you have continued to buy into a system that absolutely does NOT have yours, or my best interests at heart. But instead, folks are STILL buying into loyalties to these criminal monopoly parties (which are really the SAME party, serving the exact same interests).

It is not about party affiliation anymore, or which proverbial turd in the punch bowl has a more fragrant aroma, and yet people are STILL doing the bi-partisan bickering and insults, and cheering on these leaders as they continue to shaft us all and run our country off the side of a cliff.

Folks need to see past how we are all being played, and begin looking towards alternative means of self-contained communities and governing bodies, and remove as much of a stranglehold from this 2 party crime family as possible, as they are ALL serving Corporate, Bankster, and Military Industrial Complex interests, which have NOTHING to do with yours or mine. All one has to do to see this so blatantly and painfully clear is look around at the state of affairs, and where the past SEVERAL administrations have moved the direction of this country. They have NOT been serving we, "the little people" in decades!

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I disagree with him being the most polarizing - it seems to me that about 78% of the people despise him and 21% love him but of the 78% about 25% will vote for him in the next election because they have been programmed to do so. I think Bush was polarizing - but Obama with so many people that voted for him not liking or even hating him he seems to have bridged the gap.

reply to post by ararisq


Obama polarizing? Bush Polarizing? Clinton was Oralizing!

As with anything typically attributed to the President, this tells a very skewed story. I don't believe that Barak Obama has himself done much of anything substantial to polorize the people. The political parties, however, are a differant story.

It is a war of information and public appearance, it would seem. And it is not just what you say (or don't say) it is HOW you say (or don't say) it.

Anyway, I think it does illustrate the great (and artificial) divide that is occurring. Words like Sociallist and Facist are being thrown about like so many buzz words, with no real understanding of meaning. Meanwhile our culture is slowly being mutated into a corporate marketplace of humanity reminiscent of the movies Brazil or Repo Men.

The constant vilification- at times whole multiples worse than the vilification of Bush- is the reason for the partisan split. Consider the utter lunacy of some of the charges against him:

1) wants to over see the fall of America
2) doesn't believe America is excpetional
3) isn't truly American
4) palls around with terrorits
5) wasn't born in the USA
6) is racist against white people
7) is a secret muslim
8) wants to redistribute the wealth
9) is a marxist socialist
10) wants to destroy the military
11) wants to destroy the dollar

I think in 20-30 years when people look back at this Administration they will see the corolary between racism on the right and the charges against him. Remember similar criticisms were launched against MLK.

It'll be interesting to see all the hateful letters revealed to the public once the Obama Library opens.

WOW! Funny you should mention polarization. What a great word! That makes me think about that prophecy in Revelations about the Mark of the Beast. All those who want to buy and sell would carry the Mark of the Beast - in other words, being a loyal supporter to their government. In the Bible, Revelations speaks about only one government that would have a majority of the world's support. That's why the Mason's are so hot about the prophecy.

They are all horrific. The last 4 in memory have lied.
Obama is by far the worst. Not because I disagree with everything that he stands for, but the fact that he sold himself as one thing, promised something else and delivered something completely different then the first 2.
He is polarizing.
This is politics at its worst.
Something has to give/break.

reply to post by macman


what exactly did he promise that he did not try/ or deliver?

I hear this charge all the time and I'm really quite curious.

Well, Obama is the head of the Democrat party being President.

I think the ideological gulf has just been pushed to the extreme. In 4 short years, we have gone from $8 Trillion in the hole to $14 Trillion in the hole. Prior to that, Bush and company pushed a huge increase in government, that drove the Dems up the wall. But for some reason since, the Dems have only accelerated that.

The whole thing is, the true conservatives, independents, libertarians did not like what Bush did either. That is why Obama won so big. Myself did not vote in the 08 elections because the Neo Cons are just as bad as the progressives. I actually hoped the progressives would win because I knew what they would do, they would push their and the Neo Con agenda to the extreme.

Heck, look at Mr Neo Con himself McCain, he has actually said that Obama is easier to deal with now. Yeah, Obama has "really" changed. /s

But now, there is a problem, somehow Obama has convinced people that somehow because of an assassination and ONE thing he had to do (tax cuts), he is all good now. Oooooh this has erked the peeps. There was nothing Obama could do but go along. What were they going to do? Raise taxes during a depression? It is a depression by the way, QE anyone? Drives up GDP which is what defines a depression.

Also what has polarized the country is the MSM, the blatant vile and heinous things they did. Not to mention the complete whitewash after the elections. Actually acting like..............no big deal.

Anyway, I read about this earlier and it is not just Obama, add into that, Reid, Pelosi, MSM and the vile professional left and the JournOlist. That is why.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


Interesting... I wonder though, how much of the apparent polarization is simply due to a very well-run propaganda campaign, plus a strong undercurrent of racism in America. Yes, I said racism. Coherent examination of the frenzy around Obama reveals that his policies just do not justify it, especially in light of the comment in the OP that Obama has not strayed far enough from the practices of the previous regime.

So I don't consider Obama particularly polarizing... he has not proven to be very effective at countering the propaganda, but the propaganda effort is very well run... and that is difficult to counter.

I suspect this poll could be just another facet of the propaganda campaign... now that "He's a Muslim!" and "He's a Socialist!" are losing their punch, having long ago lost any degree of credibility, another carrot is necessary.

I agree that this country is in BIG trouble, and many of Obama's policies are not helping... but IMO the main reason he is "polarizing" is that "He's Black!".

Yes, I said racism. Twice. Based on observation. Deal with it...

reply to post by glome

wants to redistribute the wealth

The above isn't a " charge ". It is a completed action in part of Obama and his minions. Why else has Unconstitutional social programs been given extra funding? With this one example, you may want to read up before making lists of " lunacy"!

Its funny, people seem to forget the whole presidential campaign and how the media portrayed him as some kind of Cool new radical dude who was gonna save us all from our governments evil ways. Then after he was elected he was attacked by the media and blamed for the countrys woes and the sentiment was echoed throughout the populace. Instead of everything being Bushies fault its now Obummers fault, all of it. When people say something to me about how hes running the country into the ground i simply reply "yeah, this country will never be the paradise it once was before he took office." That usually shuts em up. It does'nt matter who the president is when he is nothing more than an elaborate dog and pony show to make us think that once every four years we "choose" our so called leader.

Anyways, S+F just because I always like your threads.

Originally posted by glome
reply to post by macman

 

what exactly did he promise that he did not try/ or deliver?

I hear this charge all the time and I'm really quite curious.

He promised no increase in unemployment.
He promised no increase in taxes.
He promised transparency in Govt.
He promised that all new bills would be viewable online, with time to view them.
He promised to close Guantanamo Bay.
He promised to get out of Iraq.
That is all I got off the top of my head.

reply to post by glome

1) wants to over see the fall of America
2) doesn't believe America is excpetional
3) isn't truly American
4) palls around with terrorits
5) wasn't born in the USA
6) is racist against white people
7) is a secret muslim
8) wants to redistribute the wealth
9) is a marxist socialist
10) wants to destroy the military
11) wants to destroy the dollar

1-is he a Globalist? What would it take to implement that? Did not Bush do mostly the same things?
2-Does he? I remember watching and reading his speeches around the world, are you saying he is two faced?
3-To be determined-Seems the Governor cannot seem to find the BC LF
4-Bill Ayers? Launched the campaign from there.
5-You already said this in 3, you are repeating yourself
6-Give you this one, he is not racist, he is a believer in Black Theology
7-Well, he is the first Christian I ever heard of that want 3rd trimester abortion. You find another one of those, give me a ring.
8-DERRRRR, are YOU really going to attempt to say that is not true? WOOOOOW
9-Hmmm, will have to apply redistribution and crony capitalism and union organizing, WELLLL?
10-Give you that one
11-How do you implement a Global system?

Boy, for someone attempting to point out things that are untrue, you have only 2 possibly not true. 10 and 6

Well, DD, this thread is rapidly becoming the epitome of what you described. Shame. It seems to me the point is that until We stop buying in to the garbage those in power are selling, nothing will change.

Real Clear Politics averages the current Congressional polls at 69% disapproval. Over two-thirds of the country disapproves, but how many were re-elected, in the last couple of election cycles? I'd say, too many! The problem is the voters refuse to recognize that their Representatives, who have become a part of the establishment, are part of the problem. It seems, from the poll numbers, the majority are of the opinion that everyone else's Representative is crooked, but their own is angelic.

I am cautiously optimistic about those like Rand Paul, who for the moment, appear to be steadfast in their opposition to the "business as usual" concepts in Washington. If they hold to their resistance of raising the debt ceiling, I will even adjust my attitude up a level to "hopeful". I was encouraged to his recent statement that he was open to compromise, but that compromise would be limited to "where" cuts will be made rather than if they will be made.

reply to post by Whereweheaded


Maybe go to law school before you say something. Commerce clause gives congress the power to do health care. All of your tea party judges and Attorney Generals and tenthers and lunatics can't change that.

Originally posted by glome
I think in 20-30 years when people look back at this Administration they will see the corolary between racism on the right and the charges against him.

Here is a fine example of what the OP addressed. Any opposition to Obama's policies is immediately labeled "racism". That is "utter lunacy".

reply to post by WTFover


Well, I would say they made a slight dent in the Repubs. They definitely got rid of a LOT of perceived RINO's.

Of course on the Dems side, not one incumbent lost in the primaries, did they? I do not remember seeing any articles where one lost.

Originally posted by glome
reply to post by Whereweheaded

 

Maybe go to law school before you say something. Commerce clause gives congress the power to do health care. All of your tea party judges and Attorney Generals and tenthers and lunatics can't change that.

Actually no it does not. Please reread and come back.
The Govt can't force people to purchase something. That is the basics of this.
The Obama group have even gone so far as to argue both sides. In one hand it is a tax, therefor legal for the Govt to implement. Then in the other hand, argue that it isn't a tax, therefor not subject to already established rules and laws.
It must be great to argue both sides of the fence.
It goes back to an argument of "Well if we want to end homelessness, just implement a law forcing everyone to buy a house".