First of all, let me say that I am an American, born and raised in the 'good ole U. S. of A.' With that said...
I am astonished to find so much bashing in these posts!! And the bashing I speak of is the bashing towards the OP. I wouldn't be so astonished if I
was, say, in my workplace, which leaves a lot to be desired as far as finding intelligent, free-thinking folks who are actually able to have new
thoughts and discussion without anger & hate seeping through. I had thought that ATS was different, which is why I joined this forum in the first
place, and I am not typically a forum-joiner. Apparently I should have dug deeper on here first.
What is wrong with the humans on this planet??? The OP makes many good, valid points here. So do others, on the opposite angle of the issue. And yet I
see all this personal attacking. I see folks saying, 'Well, I don't agree because I read this this and that so that means...YOU ARE WRONG!!'
BS, people. Believe it or not folks (and this is mainly addressed to all of you Americans out there who are dismissing some very important topics that
I feel we, as a people, need to confront and discuss in a MATURE dialogue) YOUR POINT OF VIEW IS NOT THE ONLY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS PLANET!!! That
mindset, that our way is THE way, is exactly why most of the world thinks that we are simply idiots.
So what if he discusses some things that have already been covered to some degree or from some angle? Much that he wrote I have not read on here
before because I don't spend the majority of my waking hours in front of the computer screen. So thank you, OP, for bringing these points to light. I
take no offense to your thread or anything that you said about the US, because I understand that OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERING POINTS OF VIEW. And I
understand that learning from those other pov's is the only way to grow and evolve, not only as Americans, but as Humans. & did you ever stop to
wonder why there may be so many threads on here that are critical of the US? Possibly what these people are saying may have some merit. There's a
thought for you.
Now to those who attacked the OP about him 'complaining' and not offering solutions or that he's just out American bashing...the only way to get a
group of people talking about a subject is to bring it up...and bring it up...and bring it up...repeatedly, as many times as necessary, until people
finally start having an open, (once again) MATURE, dialogue concerning the issues raised. Not attacks, bashing, and flippant dismissal. That gets us
nowhere. If there wasn't a problem, people wouldn't be talking about it.
The solutions are to be found when the dialogue reaches a level that transcends the problems being addressed. Without people writing these threads,
bringing these points up, most Americans would happily keep 'baaa-ing' along until they fall off the edge. But to transcend, we, everyone on this
planet, must have an open dialogue.
This 'great country' of ours is not going to be saved by another corporate-backed president, not by another shift in congress of the majority parties,
not by who is or isn't appointed to whichever position. This country is only going to be saved by it's people. You really think just voting is going
to do the trick?? Really? And America is sooo great and sooo wonderful that the majority of it's citizens is on anti-depressant and anti-anxiety meds.
Myself and my hubby are the only ones I know personally who don't have a prescription for one or another of those meds. That, to me, speaks
The American psyche is majorily screwed up, as a whole. The majority of Americans care more about who's going to win the Super Bowl than what is going
on in Egypt right now.
But, OP, please understand, there are those of us who can see, who do have open eyes.
edit on 4-2-2011 by pisces77 because: not a reply to a
specific post, but to many