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A Message to ALL Americans. READ!

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posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by MrStyx
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You dont even know your own history this is what happens when throwing stones in your glass houses. Rome didnt conquer all of Scotland but it had a good portion. England invaded in 1295 took the King's Corronation Stone didnt give it back till 1996. That sparked 400 years of war for Independence from England. You guys also tried to conquer i mean "colonize" Nova Scotia, and also tried to take over the Panama Canal. Where would you be if you succeeded and Spain and England didnt stop you? Every nation has its story you are not immune


No you are wrong, i know more about the history of my own country than you do. The Romans invaded Scotland and had a presence for about 300 years on the southern edge of the country. The had a battle with the Caledonians in Mons Gruipus but they left after the defeated us, either forcefully or because their wasnt enough gain in keeping the military cost. England DID NOT invade scotland in the first instance, Scotland asked King Edward of England to arbitrate to prevent civil war as no King for Scotland could be chosen. It was then when Scotland elected its new king that Edward didnt want to give up Scotland and the War of Independance began and raged for centuries.

We didnt try to conquer anything like you say, we set up colonies...colonies for trade...are you trying to be ignorant?

Trade is important for any country, the Scottish and Irish movements to the Americas is what produced a large portion of your original population and forefathers...it wasnt about conquering you...were not The English!



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:29 AM
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In the end, we all have a common enemies. Greed,oppression,fear,terror,elitism,selfishness... these are just a few of the things that cause us so much trouble on this planet. Countries are just another way to divide and put us against one another. The root cause does not belong to any one nation or people.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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america is a beautiful country-will someone please drive that message home to big brother-he seems to be blinded to that fact. and yes, things are tenser by the day-this does not bold well for us, the american citizens. it is more apparent that tptb, who we have trusted time and time again really dont give a damn...karma baby. karma, if nothing else, will slam them down...not much of a consolation at this present time. i feel our pain...



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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Many do have a clue.

Take a look at how many guns and how much ammo has been sold over the past few years.

American citizens have purchased enough guns/ammo to equip the world's largest armies several times over since 2009.

I don't think it is due to a recent explosion in the popularity of duck hunting.

"When in the course of human events..." and all that...



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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This is an interesting topic. As an American, I am WELL aware of what my government does and just how they pull it off. Not all Americans are as financially well off as some of you seem to think. The majority of us live hand to mouth and are too preoccupied to worry about most things going on outside of our families and homes. You Brits, Canadians and other commonwealth countries better remember one damn thing: if my country had remained neutral during WW2, you'd all be speaking german, not the kings english. Individually, your countries could not fight your way out of a wet bag of sh*t. You Brits couldn't even handle a ragtag band of half starved colonists who whipped the snot out of a numerically superior, highly advanced army. "Oh wait lads, we must stop for tea and crumpets". I don't agree with many many things my government does, from starting wars, to the legal system and many other issues. Your countries would be screwed screwed screwed if the US ceased to exist. Furthermore, if the US had NOT maintained a presence in post WW2 Europe, the Ivans would have happily rolled to the western edge of your sorry continent and happily raped your women and daughters along the way and happily impregnated the females they didn't kill with their foul seed. I think you guys might want to spend your time cleaning your side of the street, we'll take care of ours. Maybe you folks needed 65 years of Soviet domination, the gulag, forced famines and all the other harsh sh*t the Soviets did. You might hate us, but reality is, the majority of you commonwealth bellyachers are as free as you are, courtesy of the blood of young American men who are rolling in their graves right now because they died for a bunch of ingrate whiners. You're welcome, by the way. You're all complaining about my country, yet at the same time, if the Russians pushed west, you'd all run and hide behind the United States begging for help, just like you all have for the last 93 years. You know it and so do I. France: you're a moody bunch of whiny little girls who think ridiculous things like the Maginot Line can stop a blitzkreig. You guys should be ashamed of your heritage, letting good British men die for your country fighting the Nazi's, while you fools rode your bicycles home to have supper and left the Brits fighting and dying. Nothing but a bunch of cowards, yapping little yard sh*tting dogs. Snotty and rude don't mean your tough, does it. You continental europeans idly sat back and watched the Nazi's round up your jewish neighbors like animals and in many cases collaborated with them in rounding up women, children and elderly people to send them off for execution. You should walk in shame for such cowardice. You guys are arrogant enough to think it can't happen again. Newsflash: it can, your societies are unarmed. You don't have the heart or ability to stop tyranny. Ya gonna throw rocks and bottles? Yell maybe? Overturn a few cars? You europeans can't even defend your own homes and families, let alone your own countries. Go back to the little fantasy world where you all sit around in knickers in an alpine meadow braiding wildflowers and drinking schnapps, and stay oblivious, someone else will surely rush to your defense if it's necessary.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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I think that many people who read what Monts posted didn't understand what this thread is all about.

It's not a "I HATE AMERICA" thread. Actually, Monts states many times in the OP that America is a great country, founded on good principles.

He's just telling the truth. The world depends on the US; whatever it does affects all of us and it is a empire, with military bases around the whole world, that has engaged in many conflicts throughout the 20th and 21st century.

So, like it or not, whatever the US does, with good or bad intentions, affects us all.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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While you might be correct about U.S. foreign policy. Do not act as if the American people are to blame. When you are deliberately kept in the dark and the wool pulled over your eyes, how are you to see?

While the "empire", as you put it, spread across the world, I believe that the that intentions were good. Who knows what would have happened over the last 70 years if stability was not brought to some of these regions.

It's confusing to me that say, 15 or 20 years ago that the much of the world wanted an American lifestyle. Voting, Coca-Cola, baseball, alcohol, strip clubs, apple pie and so on. While these things seem weak in comparison to what is really important in life. You want what you cannot have. It's human nature.

The ONLY thing that REALLY CHANGES an individual is A SIGNIFICANT EMOTIONAL EVENT.

i.e~ 9/11 or the killing of your father, mother, uncle by an American Sidewinder missile, and so on.

Americans have the power and will to change just no reason yet. As long as the paycheck is coming in, the grocery stores are stocked and the club is open on the weekend things are hunky dory. Let these things change, particularly the grocery stores, and walla, a significant emotional event. Now it's time to do something.

So don't blame the sheep for being slaughtered, blame the shepherd who herded them to the slaughter.

One last thing. Edmonton B.C., last I checked the Queen of England is the sovereign ruler over there.

THE SECOND EMPIRE!

You have no room to talk, you are just stirring the pot.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by OnceReturned
Despite all that, I'd still rather be an American citizen (which I am) than a citizen of any other country. good for you It's possible to do awesome stuff here unless your a felon,poor,deemed an extremist or a black sheep ethnicity; it's safe how's cleveland this time a year? What about the hood in LA or chicago?; we're a rich relative to who? Other americans? Or the rest of the world. Are you comparing the american public's wealth to corporate wealth? and powerful country; and our quality of life is high.because of corporate and the bankers Capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than anything else, ever.lol...nahh thats just bs dude No other system is as successful as ours,not true even though we're not perfect. No system is perfect.including ours Things aren't bad enough here for the population to do anything about it.corruption! yay! F--- the rest of humanity turn on the football!


So Corporate mindwashed you into that obedient sycophant role right? Why is our quality of living so high? Why do we start 2 illegal wars to steal from other countries? Why assassinate civilians? Whats with the drug dealing like in iran contra and operation snowcone?

Its ok keep living in that comfortable gucci diamond studded neck chains. I mean your a slave. A comfortable and corrupt slave but still an obedient pre-programmed slave. Play ball! 4th down!
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posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Yes indeed Monts, you have the real answer in front of you and don't even see it.

America/Americans are evil.

There I said it.

The very moment we saw Darth Vader step off his Star Destroyer and enter the Rebel Blockade runner we were enraptured! Evil is cool.

We have no interest anymore in wearing the White hats. Its gotten old. Why give candy to babies when you can take the candy from the babies!

We all understand that elections and democracy are dead, do you think we are thick? TPTB have promised us all a place at their right hand once all the world is under their thumb. So we go through the motions of the whole left/right thing but in our homes we snicker and laugh as we watch the BBC and think "If only they knew!", sometimes we even laugh like the B movie villians of the black and white past.

However until the rest of the world is under a red, white and blue American thumb I will continue to "play along" with this democracy thing. When our alien overlords arrive and America is the captiol of the New Orion Empire you will wish you had been nicer to us.


Yours in Haste,

Helmkat



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by mountain40
if the Russians pushed west,

Russia? I thought it was an ally to the British.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Well I will apologies, we all have different reasons and some of us are better off than other...at least where you are must be better than where you would rather be or else you would have been there prospering...no...?
I am sorry you cannot afford to leave the US since you hate it so, this is a free country to speak your mind for or against the US whether I like it or not...

I do hope your position in life improves so you can be where you are happy, but the grass is not always greener on the other side.

As much as you dislike the US I love the US for the good times and bad, my loyalties lye here.

Good luck to you mate...!



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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I'm with everyone else, sir/ma'am, we KNOW this already! Others have pointed out things that I agree with too; too diverse a population to agree on anything, distraction with entertainment and commodity-fetishism. About all we have left is a vote for Coke or Pepsi, politically. Fear-porn on TV has activated the limbic systems in most of the population so they are obsessed with 'safety and security' - the perfect control mechanism.

Yes, there are those of us like myself who impotently fire off diatribes on ATS but mass organized action will not take place in the US. If it were to 'break out' it would quickly become marginalized, become a mob, be infiltrated with provacateurs, etc. Again: There are too many 'societies within societies' here now.

Our media characatures complex ideas and movements to the point that only the Tea Party can get traction because they are outlandish and amusing (and thanks to massive funding by plutocrats).

So tell us: What are we going to do? If you have some idea other than violence (won't work - we're massively outgunned and violence makes you a 'terrorist') or Revolution (won't work - too many factions, and after a period of LA Riot style anarchy people will BEG for a dictator to instill rule of law) what do you suggest?

Your thoughts are right with ours...but we are all searching for tactful, tangible solutions to this mess!



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Monts

Originally posted by Soldier of God
Everything you have written has been written a hundred times already on this site... great work.


*yawns*


*yawns*

Well maybe if people would start listening and acting on it things will change.

It's hard to imagine that every single new member has gone over the history of all such threads and knows the facts and messages I made clear.



Outsiders are always jealous of Americans. Keep on spewing the same thing you read on here and we'll keep on being a superpower.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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I agree with you on a lot but comeing from a Brit purty much make's everything you have copied from somewhere else redundent.Like many have said already on this post,what you have copied and pasted here has been said before.

I think we should close most all base's and give NO more aid to anyone really by starting with Great Bitian.Your fast becomeing a Muslim country and truthfully I feel it could not happen to a more derserving country.All you Brit's do is whine about America. Get a life or just wait a bit,Alah will take what life you have left and you hypocrit's in GB will be in line at the border with the rest of the iliegal's wanting to get into the one place you seem to hate the most.



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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No you are wrong, i know more about the history of my own country than you do. The Romans invaded Scotland and had a presence for about 300 years on the southern edge of the country. The had a battle with the Caledonians in Mons Gruipus but they left after the defeated us, either forcefully or because their wasnt enough gain in keeping the military cost. England DID NOT invade scotland in the first instance, Scotland asked King Edward of England to arbitrate to prevent civil war as no King for Scotland could be chosen. It was then when Scotland elected its new king that Edward didnt want to give up Scotland and the War of Independance began and raged for centuries.
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Im not wrong your trying to rewrite history please go look it up the year was 1292. You chose a King John Scotland formed a treaty with France, The Auld Alliance. The Year was 1295 England didnt like it. England took over Scotland sparking the Wars of Scottish Independence 1296-1328 and beyond. Whats the difference you didnt like the word invade? So instead of "invade" they just slapped you in the face and took your country from you. Yet you boast you weren't conquered? When you tried to secure the Panama canal they stopped funding you and didnt support you cause they didnt want to offend Spain. If you think you were an equal ally your surely fooling yourself. They left you high and dry and allowed you to be defeated by Spain. England was your master too. You use "For trade" yeah settlers traded with Native Americans too, Spain with Incas as well. Trade my arse you wanted a piece of the pie and expansion like everyone else

The motto of this site is deny ignorance go back research a bit please its rather easy



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by Helmkat
America/Americans are evil.

There I said it.

The very moment we saw Darth Vader step off his Star Destroyer and enter the Rebel Blockade runner we were enraptured! Evil is cool.






When our alien overlords arrive and America is the captiol of the New Orion Empire you will wish you had been nicer to us.





posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Now I know America is not perfect, nor any other country. However I am tired of people blaming the worlds problems on "us." It is like when a gun shop owner LEGALLY sells a gun to a person that uses it to commit a crime. Is it the gun owners fault. No it's the person who purchased the gun and used it to commit the crime. How about ALL countries take responsibility for their actions. Why only the USA?



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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"You Brits, Canadians and other commonwealth countries better remember one damn thing: if my country had remained neutral during WW2, you'd all be speaking german, not the kings english. Individually, your countries could not fight your way out of a wet bag"

I actually thought your response was going to make some sense when you began to comment on how most of the poplace of US are on the breadline, I agree and believe that this is a problem of all countries around the world and that humanity is far more important than relegion. How ever the Non-Sense comment after that regarding the war just proves that you like most watch far to much TV this was a typical Uncle Sam beat the world comment, I would like to mention your serious lack of history, The fact that everyone with any real ties the US were killed off. The USA is not yours its the Indians, its a corrupt, drug dealing, money laundering, war mongering platform for global domination and i like most in the UK can relate to why so much of the world has a hatred for your nation. I feel ashamed that my nation wants such a good relationship with your nation and wish we would cut our ties with you or we are going to get dragged down with you (I am white 32 year old male with no muslim ties but feel the treatment of the East over oil is barbaric). In your breif history you have introduced obesity, coca cola and arguably the worst diet traits in world history, My mothers house is older than when the first settlers went to the Indian native lands! just re-itterating the fact that your Country has no History.
Its the New Kid on the Block and bullying is all it knows bless em!



posted on Feb, 4 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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I'm from the San Francisco Bay Area in the state of California, USA. It was here in Silicon Valley where the modern computer was invented. It was here that the Internet grew and became the World Wide Web that it is today.

Let's face it folks. It's because of the World Wide Web and Internet along with the ideals of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, that have been provided to the American citizens through it's Constitution, that has finally brought all these issues to the forefront of the mainstream media and the politics of ordinary people of today.

Before the Internet existed the information and knowledge was limited to very few and easily controlled and manipulated through propaganda. If not for the availability of huge databases of information about the past and the release of previously classified documents by our governments much of the corruption would still be going on.

If not for those few revolutionary people who have always existed and spoke out against tyranny and corruption there may not have been much of a trail to follow. But now times are different and all the pieces of the puzzle are finally available and the picture is becoming quite clear.

Please do your research and don't support the propaganda machine. It is not America or American government that is running the show. The people we all see in government are just puppets to the Global Corporations and International Banking Cartels.

Please keep up the good work OP but I believe you should investigate deeper because as you stated yourself this thing has gone Global and affects us all. The problem is much bigger than the power and control of America. Because who's really in control are the "men behind the curtain".

Please watch this video made by Max Igan from Australia about the history of the "New World Order". I believe that it is one of the better videos out there and may help open your eyes.

"THE CALLING"
www.youtube.com... Part 1 of 8

www.youtube.com... Part 2 of 8

www.youtube.com... Part 3 of 8

www.youtube.com... Part 4 of 8

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