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UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

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posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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I tried it I can not create the conditions inside my house to much echos and dogs and noise i attempted it trust me.




posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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Uh yeah.

BTW let me know if you ever you come up with examples of people who copy cat random ufo videos for the hell of it. Before they've gone viral



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by Frater210
Being new to ATS I was wondering what it means if one of the stars in the upper left of a members reply turns blue? Is there a legend somewhere for this stuff.


If someone likes your post, they can click the empty star at the top left corner of the post.

You get a star. The more people who like your post (or secretly hate it but want to make it looked liked for some trollish reason) the more stars you will see collected.

Also...when the dollar collapses and the New World Order begins, those stars will be used as the new global currency as well as fuel interplanetary spaceships as a new source of energy. Oddly enough it will be dubbed "Star Power".


Some people want stars...but some of us know the truth...stars are poison and implanted within the system by evil overlords to make us weak and easy to exterminate when the "Flag Wars" arise.

Hope that helps.

MM



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by Ashtrei

Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by Ashtrei
 


Like many times before, you have misquoted me yet again to bend logic to your agenda.

I never called you a jerk.

I have pointed out that there are BS jerky one-liners in the past ten pages of this thread.

Like I told you before, I'm now actively ignoring you until you begin acting in a way I personally find worthy of intelligent interaction.

Thank you.

MM



edit on 5-2-2011 by Mr Mask because: (no reason given)


Yeah you did you called me a jerk, put what ever spin you like on it theis is what you said

"just using one-liner BS to be a jerk"

to be a jerk

a jerk

you called me A jerk.

Not jerky not jerkish or jerk lime A jerk

While at the same time admonishing me to be civil

You said i was irrelevant and unproductive, but today ive been thanked for providing a link to a translated version of vid one, and MSM news articles, the evidence does not support your ignorant opinion
which is more or less a constant in this matter

the only person you are fooling when you say you didnt call me a jerk.....is you

You did, i can quote you

"just using one-liner BS to be a jerk"



fyi my guess if you read back hes not talking about you.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:34 AM
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So you are saying to have copy cats it must go viral? Also you are saying that this is not a UFO video if it goes viral? Correct me if I am wrong?



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:36 AM
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Okay now you have opened a whole new can of worms because I want my star power and you are not fueling me



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:36 AM
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Let me just throw this argument out there...

Watch the background lights in this video closely.

Why don't any of the lights move? Why don't any of the lights turn off? Why don't you see moving car lights?

All you see is slight flicker caused by the quick movement of the camera and compression.... but why don't any lights change or turn off? Why is it static?

I would like to hear what the believers think.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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Guys, there's nothing else to analize.

The people that is knowledgable in each field has already done all the analyzing that CAN BE DONE. No new frames are going to magically appear

We have x amount of audio and x amount of video.

I + a few others looked over the audio, many problems
A handful of people looked over the video, many problems

There just isnt going to be any more information to be brought, so waiting for something that isnt going to happen is on you.

If what all the information that was concluded is not enough for you to change your opinion one way or another, then that's fine, but sitting around waiting for that next tiny sliver of something isnt going to change your opinion ANYWAYS, so why do it?

Everything is "inconclusive", why? because you wasn't there.

Why don't you, the one whose reading this right now thats planning to reply with some whimscle , unrelated to the topic banter, instead, post what WOULD be, in your opinion, SATISFATORY evidence that would allow you to conclude it was a hoax.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
This may not bring anything new to the table, but I just had to show it...

Discovery.com - Jerusalem UFO Almost Certainly a Hoax

...they linked to my videos I created.





Good work sir


Just want to congratulate you on making MSM news. Good work there.

MM



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:38 AM
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its called distance. Same reason why in video 2 lights stick out more because his camera is zoomed in and his angle is different. Go outside with your phone and try it. Different angles and distances even a 10-15 feet difference.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:39 AM
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I think that I've valued your particular opinion amongst a number of topics. And I am disappointed you're even here. Seriously, you've seen the threads beat to death, you're a valued member. You haven't formed an opinion?



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by Ashtrei
 


Sir...please stop that sort of posting.

I will not be polite and open to the ideas of such rudeness.

Lets get this right- you have done nothing here to refute or prove anything through research or reasoning. You have more then once been rude to people in this thread while failing to remain relevant or productive.

I really do not enjoy seeing you tell a community that I care about and work with, that I do not need evidence nor do I pay attention to it, when it is clear I have done my best to educate myself and others (even if you deem it wrong information) on details of this entire case.

Links, pictures, vids, hypothesizing, researching and presenting my findings- I find myself being far more productive then just using one-liner BS to be a jerk.

Disigree with what I say...fine...please work on being civil. It can only benefit all sides.

Thank you.

MM



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excloud here is the entire post
he says hes not going to be polite (while demanding i be civil)
he says stop that sort of posting (which is the mods job, not his)

and he does call me A jerk
while demanding holier than thou i work on being civil

hilarious, classic case of "transfer"



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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So basically you are saying 1,2 are real besides your "audio" findings good game.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
This may not bring anything new to the table, but I just had to show it...

Discovery.com - Jerusalem UFO Almost Certainly a Hoax

...they linked to my videos I created.





Good work sir


Just want to congratulate you on making MSM news. Good work there.

MM


When did MSM start posting our debunking information? haha Please give another example because this leads me to believe 1,2 might be even more legit then before. Not saying others should in any way its my view of the MSM that has this. please keep an open mind on all of this. I just want to know if any media has done this before?



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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wow, i thought the russian pyramid video was more impressive than these, at least as a piece of impressive video. It was probably a hoax, just like here....although like here, i was never convinced one way or another with either the proof or the debunking.

that russian video had the added value of threads not devolving into the kind of mush we're getting here at this point. i still tend to think the first two Mount videos have possible merit (doubting the 4th more and more now, but it's well done regardless) - but, the back and forth debate here is mind numbing.
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posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by PhotonEffect
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My point is they're all of the same event and have the same general feel to them.

Who makes fakes of random ufo videos that haven't yet been determined to be real or not? And we're not talking one fake, but multiple fakes by different people.(supposedly)

It makes no sense


I don't place much weight in UFO videos, to start with. I place far more weight in eyewitness accounts. Do we have any videos of Roswell? Documentary evidence is far more important than You Tube videos. I'd like to hear from some eyewitnesses on You Tube, or the National News. Given the worldwide popularity of the event, this should not be too difficult. If no one has the conviction to come forth and testify to this event publicly, then my skeptical antennae remain high. I understand there "may" be one or two witnesses, but I'd like to hear more. The corroborating evidence for this still remains sadly lacking, and to use the old cliche, "it wouldn't last a day in a court". Not that I think that UFO phenomena should not be taken seriously (I've had my own encounter, posted earlier), or subjected to "court protocols", but in this case where it occurred, supposedly, at the Dome of the Rock, a symbol of great religious significance to at least three major world religions (and some are claiming it to be "angels"), I would think that a more thorough investigation would be worthwhile. It seems to me that a prankster would have been well aware of the important significance of this, and possibly used it to totally devious means. There's probably no where on earth that would have more significance for a "UFO" appearance than the Dome of the Rock.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:47 AM
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Agreed, 1,2 are where its at 3 fake obviously 4 looks like a cloverfield repo due to 1,2 coming out. I dunno. I want 1,2 debunked to kill this thread. Besides just audio thats not conclusive imo.



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:47 AM
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Thanks buddy.


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Originally posted by ExCloud
its called distance. Same reason why in video 2 lights stick out more because his camera is zoomed in and his angle is different. Go outside with your phone and try it. Different angles and distances even a 10-15 feet difference.


What are you talking about?

I stabilized the background of that video, and ZERO lights turn off, and ZERO move... It is a static image.

In October, I filmed these jets flying in the distance. You can see city lights below, and many do move and turn on and off...

www.youtube.com...

Why don't any lights turn off in the UFO video? Why don't they move?

Distance has nothing to do with it... lights should still move... slowly, but surely. That doesn't happen.


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posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by ExCloud
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its called distance. Same reason why in video 2 lights stick out more because his camera is zoomed in and his angle is different. Go outside with your phone and try it. Different angles and distances even a 10-15 feet difference.


In respect during this conflicting time of mass opinions-

I think he means, why is there no night "light life" going on in Jerusalem in clip one.

I agree with that logic, having watched many clips of the area at night hours, but also know the community can and will say "maybe that hour was just special" or "maybe the camera isnt picking them up" or many other things like that.

Fact remains...there is no life or movment to the entire city save for three things.

A UFO.

And three red lights to the left that flicker ever so slightly.

other then that, a city that is impossible to find a moving night shot of that area "without activity" seemingly presents itself as unmoving here in our UFO shot.

Not only do the lights not move, turn on or off, show signs of any activity, but they also (as you must be sick of me typing this) do not obey the simple laws of perspective that demand they shift on the plain of reality that governs the foreground.

Nothing...still...shows nothing of movement, perspective shifting, active inhabitants, nothing.

MM



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posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 02:48 AM
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Be flattered that "mainstream" media now uses google ATS as experts and a content source.
Wow!



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