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UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

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posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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I didnt even catch the stereo placement stuff thats going on, but that's because I didnt use any earphones and I only have 1 speaker connected to my comp atm (my other speaker sits in my closet, which on the other side of the closet wall is my neighbors bedroom lol) Your find adds glaze to the already frosted cake




posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Dude I have the phone. Your main mic is still your main mic it picks up sound. The back mic is for vlogging it picks up sound. When its activated I will show you. I just got it like 4days ago as we just got at&t here.



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
So I studied the audio in the second video some more... On the other topic a while ago I mentioned that you can hear "stereo" issues going on.... so I'm checking again and there is a trove of proof that this is a hoax.

In the second video, if you use headphones, you can hear the audio manipulation straight out.. You can hear the right ear gets louder and the left ear gets softer, and you can hear it changing and shifting volume ear to ear... as far as I know cell phones cant do that.

Besides the issues Debo pointed out... there is a blatant mistake...

In the first video the guy1 holding the camera says "whoah, shhoohoho, sshh...", then the second guy2 in the foreground says something like "what da fu?" (but in a different language) right after...

In the second video, with the issues, you can hear guy1 faintly in the background say "whoah, shhoohoho," but the "sshh" part is played at a really high volume. Why did the volume of guy1s voice jump?? They made it sound like guy2 said "sshh what da fu?", but guy2 didn't say "sshh" that was guy1.

HA, this hoax is completely destroyed...


Excuse me for my ignorance but I really get ADD when trying to follow all this audio stuff. But it sounds to me like you have debunked the 2nd video only. We know the 3rd is crap and we know people will try to discredit anything. First video debunk, well I'm not convinced. So what does that leave us with? 1&4. Four's credibility analysis was stellar IMO and we're still waiting for a response from the weather cam manager on the location.

How about we give the audio debunk a rest for a bit and handle one thing at a time?



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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NEW VIDEO....though it is of pictures taken that night. I don't feel good about them. The motion blur on second photo looks artificial. More disinfo agents at work? The guy is in the military special forces????? hmmmmmm


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posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Would this test work with a keyboard holding a constant note?



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by semicolonsmile
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Hey, i Would just like to point out that in your weathercam evidence, when you say it appears on the 26th at the exact same time, yes the search bar says Jan. 26 2011, but the time and date on the camera still say January 28th.

Other than that...great find.


Really? I'm going to look. If so, my bad, but I was pretty sure. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. However, there is a ufo on the 26th afternoon image.

Yup, you're right. Too late now

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posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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You don't need my test (besides my cell is kinda old school, cant xfer videos to computer, dont have a memory card). I'm not debating with you because you have nothing to debate. You have no information to contrary.

But I will be waiting to see how your reaction how it will play out. I find that interesting



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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I don't see why it wouldnt, use A5, place 1 mic near the keyboard, the other mic 10 feet away. Sound loses energy as it travels, so the velocity (volume) observed in Mic 1 will be louder than the velocity observed in mic 2
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posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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Would not work as the voices are different pitch and guy 1 is louder then guy 2 the whole time pretty much especially at the yell.



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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how many times do I have to tell you, the offending person is only 1 voice and its actor B, the one saying dae dae dae. his volume is the same in BOTH videos, completely ignoring the fact that they are 10 feet apart.

the guy can do the test with A5, it will be valid



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by DeboWilliams
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Exactly, it's a decent attempt because they tried to compensate for the location, but theres no fades at all, its sharp volume changes. If I did the video, I wouldve recorded the audio seperately, then you couldve added a edited copy to 1 then altered it for video 2 perfectly, then add in the street background noise overtop of it to completely cover up any minute flaws.


Cool, I got both of you guys on this one now. Okay since both of you guys have avoided my answers in the last thread maybe now you can answer me on this one.
Mr. Debo, this is now the 6th time I am asking you this about the audio analysis you have made known to us.
This is the private message I had asked you that you never replied to.

Hello Mr. Williams. I had a simple question that I thought would be nice if you brought to light for everyone here. I quoted you and your excellent analysis of the audio, and was wanting to know the effects of wind speed and trajectory in this case. Would it or would it not play a big role as to your outcome on the analysis posted?

I am asking because if anyone else here plays golf then you should know that if the wind is blowing just a few miles per hour then you can usually here the guys/gals playing a few yards away on the next hole, they can't here you if the wind is blowing towards them if you are speaking at a normal tone, but you can hear them if you are downstream of the wind direction from them. Also, I noticed that it seems there is a little breeze maybe, hence the coats everyone is wearing too. I noticed the tree moving a bit, and the 4th clip (the full version) when the girl gets out of the car (4 min mark) her hair moves just a bit towards her right shoulder. Then when she reaches "the pisser" it seems to be towards her right shoulder as well. Now there is someone who lives in Jerusalem that posted that they are two different spots, so it seems that the locations can be validated. So if these teens filmed it from the side, then the two phone camera guys filmed towards let's say the rear of the object as opposed to the side, then it looks like the wind would be blowing in the right direction and the perspective factor are right . I'm not sure, anyone else see where I am going with this?

giftofprofecy I am writing your question up now since your stance has changed again, be posting it in a bit...



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Dude, you aren't paying attention...

Actually the iPhone has 3 microphones... 1 is for the phone only. 1 is for vlog sound. 1 is for noise cancellation.

None of them actually record at the same time.. Only one records and the other helps with noise cancellation.

There is no way an iPhone can control the volume independently on either the left or right channel.. both channels will have the same volume output.

The sound is bunk... I'll try to make a video explaining and showing it.



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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I will test it tomorrow and I will mimic the results. I will give it 6 attempts and if I cant get close results then I will say you are correct. If I get close being as I have 1 mic they most likely have 2 different mics then I will go with its plausible but its not debunked deal?



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Things I thought of while making this thread.
Just some thoughts to your questions:



1) Voice matching technology? Anyone have it? Know about it? Can we obtain this tech and try a voice match on all voices involved?

I was thinking the same thing with the 4th video. I was going to ask if anyone could do a voice analysis on the first two original videos and the fourth one. Seems to be 2 males and a female, plus a camera man/woman.

What is also weird about the fourth one - why is the guy standing outside the car not waving his friends over... perhaps he was in shock and watching the UFO decend? Interesting stuff...



3) Is it possible that the Utah incident was a secret mission of some sort and these clips were paid for by those who carried out that mission to spread "UFO stories" as a cover up?

MM


It could be possible - but perhaps stretching it a bit. Perhaps, if the video is real - it could be the same craft that was messing around in Utah. I think the only way we would know the answer to your last question is if we were government insiders



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Yes, I saw that..that one definitely says the 26th in the time stamp.

Glad I could be of service.



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Ok ive listened to the audio on this vid



and this vid



these are the original vids

And i cant honestly hear anything thats wrong,

at the 52/53 seconds mark in the first vid i hear something like "zeemoney what-aa" and it distorts, presumably due to volume and proximity to the camera

at the 10 second mark in the second vid i hear "zeemoney what-aa" again, but no distortion

This is consistant with it being recorded by the 2nd device which is further away from the guy saying zeemoney what-aa"

Im sorry ppl, i dont see the issue with the audio here.



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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LOL everyone is still trying to prove and disprove this video.I have not seen anything that says it is a hoax for sure yet.



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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From what I can tell using my phone it has 1 for canceling the noise. the other 2 seam to be active at the same time as I get a lot of clear sound coming from the other mics direction that would be muffled on my old blackberry or its just a lot better mic and thats why I get the results.



posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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again, listening to the two clips i cant hear anything not consistant with the scenario
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posted on Feb, 3 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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What about the blinking lights at the end of one of the videos?

Do they mean something?

A code maybe?



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