reply to post by Paradigm2012
Hey there Paradigm2012. Haven't heard back from you. In fact, you have not returned since I posted this to you. Hootlj would love to hear from
Paradigm2012, you seem a bit churlish in your posts. Indulge me for a moment, if you please.
reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 03:32 AM by Paradigm2012
“It still appears that video 1, video 2, and video 4 are real. Video 3 was a hoax and I heard that the person who hoaxed it was an ATS member.”
That is the difference between fact and fiction. Where did you hear this?
reply posted on 5-2-2011 @ 05:23 AM by Paradigm2012
“This proves nothing at all. This is not strong evidence of a hoax at all. You pretty much seem desperate to find something which is why you have
not been able to back up your claims with evidence.”
reply posted on 7-2-2011 @ 03:07 AM by Paradigm2012
“You must actually think that because you can Google that image then put in on ATS and say "OH they must have stolen this image" that you have
All you proved is that you can GOOGLE an image.
it says nothing about this case.”
reply posted on 7-2-2011 @ 03:11 AM by Paradigm2012
“Nice little illustration there Mr. Mask, but any city or video can be googled and an image will be found. L.A., Chicago, New York etc.
Sorry to oinform you but that googled image you posted proves nothing other than you have a large imagination and you can google an image.
Your not as smart as you pretend to be.”
And you are? How about your qualifications to make any of the above statements?
reply posted on 7-2-2011 @ 12:58 PM by Paradigm2012
“So your admitting that the hotel is there and is located exactly were you are using that pixelated cellphone video to prove it. Look at how the
lights angle up perfectly with the hotel."
He's not admitting anything. The hotel is not in the picture. How did you miss that?
"And your GIF clip is too short and could be pixelated compression artifact”
Could you please supply an example of this "pixelated compression artifact?
reply posted on 7-2-2011 @ 01:00 PM by Paradigm2012
“Your micro second GIF clip SHOWS NOTHING other than pixelated youtube video.”
reply posted on 7-2-2011 @ 01:14 PM by Paradigm2012
“Please provide evidence of a hoax, you have yet to answer my question. Every thing you talk about as evidence for a hoax has been proven
I guess I missed that. Exactly where is “everything”? Where is any evidence for a hoax been proven incorrect?
reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 02:22 AM by Paradigm2012
Originally posted by Mr Mask
“I just showed you all the background images are stolen offline and very popular searchable images.
Anyone arguing with the technical side of things can understand easily "stolen background images".
I even made a movie with a vocal explanation. Don't be shy...watch it. Its above.”
reply posted on 8-2-2011 @ 02:22 AM by Paradigm2012
“Why can't you prove that background images were stolen offline. You should prove it."
Are you really that thick or just being redundant?
"Your speculation is not evidence.”
reply posted on 9-2-2011 @ 02:26 PM by Paradigm2012
“Your going to be proven wrong on this case that its not a hoax very soon. I am working on a few details that could break this case open again. this
case is not dead."
I cannot wait.
"Just like the Turkey UFO footage you will be proven WRONG in the end!”
reply posted on 9-2-2011 @ 02:28 PM by Paradigm2012
“Everyone was sure the Turkey UFO footage was a hoax just like they do with this."
And who is “everyone.”
"Now we know the Turkey UFO footage was not a hoax."
And who is “we?”
"Do you guys see how your quick judgement comes back to bite ya.”
Mark those words Paradigm...you could be a little more careful here. I agree with zorgon: “You said that before... that you have it all worked
out... yet you never produced anything to show us the proof you claim to have.”
reply posted on 9-2-2011 @ 02:31 PM by Paradigm2012
reply to post by zorgon
“Because we proved it and just about everyone knows now that it was not a hoax."
And who is “we? And who is “everyone?”
"I assume you have not spent time on it."
OOPS! You assume...(Too easy...)
reply posted on 9-2-2011 @ 05:04 PM by Paradigm2012
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
“Ok I have finished my investigation and I now agree that the first video has "motion tiled edges". There is no way possible that this could be
the inbal hotel."
That is not what you said on Page 123, and subsequent pages.
"I don't like to rush to judgement and slap things together like some of you frantic debunkers."
Frantic? Do you read your own posts?
“Just because the first video has mirrored edges does not mean the entire case is a hoax.
He could have put it into some kind of software after he was done to stablize the video"
It might have been unintentional!"
And how does the mirrored edges effect "unintentionally" find its way onto the video?
"I now think that video #1 has mirrored edges, for a brief very brief amount of time.”
What does “a brief very brief amount of time” have to with it? The video was clearly tampered with, therefore invalidating it.
“I have seen zero evidence of tampering with video #2
and I have seen zero evidence of tampering with video #4”
That’s because either you have not read all the pages or do not have the intestinal fortitude to attack others with “proof” the way you attempt
to attack MrMask.
Put up or shut up. Go to Pages 59, 64, 81, 102, read and learn and see if you can refute pezza, then come back here with something other than inane
“Its amazing that some of you rush to judgement before you do any investigation.”
See your quotes above...I agree with m0riarty: “All that those who are claiming this is not a hoax have to do is try to substantiate that claim with
evidence. It would seem they think nothing of asking 'sceptics' or 'debunkers' to supply proof - why are they exempt?”
Paradigm2012, I am not intentionally mocking you, but you have left the door wide open for comment. I sincerely hope you find it helpful. I can
understand your consternation with the vicissitudes of this thread, but that is life. I thought that being here on ATS makes us all in the same boat,
so to speak - DENY IGNORANCE.
It is time to fish or cut bait.
Are you a fisherperson or the Master Baiter?
In Peace & Light