UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

UFO's do not draw huge twittering and crowds, the real ones are only seen by a few. This is actually a joke, I was just on Zorgon's thread asking about the 404 message and someone posted that Fox news had even declared it was an advertisement or media event, over a no fly zone, sacred site, I'm sure that event went off very well indeed.

NWO certainly at work with suppression of information. Don't ever let them get away with it.

Originally posted by Mr Mask
But when I was young the biggest UFO thing was people seeing the black triangle. It was filmed and photographed many times. It was called a UFO, entire chapters in cheesy old UFO books were filled with it.

The military did nothing to curb these wild claims, but eventually in the late 80s, early 90s they unvieled the new stealth bomber and some admitted to enjoying the UFO cover story to protect the project.

I think the Jerusalem UFO is clearly a CGI hoax but I had to ask:

Have you ever seen a B2 bomber?

There's really no way to see it as anything but an airplane. It banks and turns like an aerodynamic vehicle. It does not hover and in fact has a fairly high stall speed. The biggest clue though is the very loud noise from it's jet engines. Anyone who claims the B2 is responsible for more than a tiny number of triangle UFO sightings is either not paying attention or not thinking it through. I suggest you read "Night Siege" by Phil Imbrogno and Allen Hynek and see if that sounds like a B2 bomber.

So the one video is a clear CGI hoax. Why release a crappy still image, too? Before?

yeah there was a whole thread talking about that 404 error...it wasn't put back up on site for a while. sorry, i just think that's weird. but coincidence i guess

I'll take your word for it ATS, but it does add another element. Again, second site in just a few days that's gone down like that related to this topic.

And I'll echo what poster said before.

The media immediately labeled this a hoax, well before ATS came to this conclusion. And also threw around the media stunt idea from the very beginning. This is backwards of how these things usually play out. And to note, you guys are talking about how this is such a hugely publicized event....is it?

Fox News? Space.com? Really?

Lesser UFO sightings get reported by bigger outlets all the time, and you usually have to go on sites like these or read comments to get the real details.

Also, some way cooler UFO sightings have happened while this has been going on - in Peru, Mexico, India, Utah...and those aren't even being discussed much right now. And those are probably if not hoaxes, some weird phenomena people are seeing. My family last night hadn't even heard of this. It's also not crazy in the mid east press either - I've searched. Covered the exact same way it was in the US.

A fair, good and interesting article.

www.examiner.com...

1. Genuine ET or interdimensional phenomenon – The Dome of the Rock UFO orb event appears - more probably than not - to be a genuine ET or interdimensional phenomenon, captured on video by at least 2 independent witnesses. According to one UFO orb specialist, the Dome of the Rock UFO orb phenomenon is similar to UFO orb phenomenon that has been documented and classified as “a Plasma Orb Light Entity/Interdimensional Angel,” which did the exact same phenomenon as one of the other contacts of the UFO orb specialist, photographed in March of 2008.
The substantive issues raised as to whether the Dome of the Rock UFO orb video is a CGI artefact and hoax appear for the moment to have been successfully responded to.
That the Dome of the Rock UFO orb is a genuine interdimensional/ET phenomenon or a CGI artefact and hoax has been debated and determined with some finality with the conclusion that the video shows a genuine ET interdimensional phenomenon. Of course, new evidence could open up this debate at any time.


Continue reading on Examiner.com: Is UFO orb over Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem a context communication by ET? - Seattle exopolitics | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...

Originally posted by hootlj
The media immediately labeled this a hoax, well before ATS came to this conclusion.

Can you back that statement up? I think you may be wrong.

Originally posted by hootlj
And to note, you guys are talking about how this is such a hugely publicized event....is it?

Fox News? Space.com? Really?

Lesser UFO sightings get reported by bigger outlets all the time, and you usually have to go on sites like these or read comments to get the real details.

It got mentioned in pretty much every major News outlet. But it is so clearly a horrible hoax that it didn't get much mention.

The fake factor, and the "to good to be true" factor is through the roof... not many people other than hard core believers actually thought it was real when they saw it, because it isn't.

Few minutes ago, i have writen a Mail too Space.com and too the German Media Bild.de too.

With this text:

What do you think about this Obejcts:
Video 4 Jerusalem second 0.11 make stop
www.youtube.com...

Video Nasa Objects
Make stop at 5.49 Minute
www.youtube.com...

Random or?

Click here for more information.

gift0fpr0phecy

I'm absolutely not wrong. I have been following this extremely closely from the very beginning. How the media was covering it early on was actually what got me so especially interested in this !

Fox News & Huffington Post were two of the first major outlets to pick it up, and although there were some fact reporting early on, it didn't last long. The follow up story did label it as hoax, and then there were stories after again saying how it was a media stunt. I can find documentation, but all the headlines called it a hoax or even just flat out concluded it was a media ploy (without any lick of evidence), from the very beginning, with the exception of maybe a handful of articles.

Think it got covered at Yahoo News, MSNBC, ABC News, Space.com, Discovery News too

But really, all the major outlets?Not even a BBC article saying "has anyone seen the UFO," or a CNN iReport?

CNN:
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BBC:
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USA Today:
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Wall Street Journal:
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And its' fine for media to report as hoax, but no one is reporting the complexity of the issue. They're hinging their whole arguments on how some of the videos are clear hoaxes. Still, to this very moment in time, the hoax videos are inconsistent and there's a possibility that there is 1 genuine in the mix. So, no, the case is not dead. Even if you're really skeptical, you have to say there are still some questions. If only about what the hoaxers were trying to do, and why on earth they'd discredit themselves.

Originally posted by hootlj
Still, to this very moment in time, the hoax videos are inconsistent and there's a possibility that there is 1 genuine in the mix. So, no, the case is not dead.

I disagree, there is no possibility that any of the videos are genuine... based on my experience with photo and video software and production of both.

In any event, how can you justify what I posted here regarding the complete lack of public response from the devout?

It all depends on how many people saw it. If it wasn't as much as you guys think, then the witnesses could have been suppressed or are just taking it for what it is. Either way, we should see more response from the locals - especially if this got as much coverage as you guys are saying it did. However, if only a few people saw it, and then the media called it a hoax, why would people still be trying to find the UFO? Isn't that how a cover up would play out?

And I respect your decision that all videos are clear hoaxes. I'm not a video expert, so I just have to go off of your guys analysis. I still see some subjectivity there, though, and think the case only gets strengthened when you look at them all at once, not individually. But thanks for addressing the issue and not continuing to harp on individual hoax analysis pieces.

And there has not been a complete lack of response, by the way. People have been tweeting and posting about it there, saying how it's a sign of end times.

Has anyone done any analysis of the weather webcam video? I do remember seeing it on here somewhere?

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I don't know what to tell you other than the fact the UFO is so obviously fake that some didn't even decide to report it. I honestly don't see why it got any attention besides it being over a religious temple.

When I look at the image above, I can instantly tell it is fake. Some people just lack that ability....

I could explain a few reasons why it is fake, and some people wouldn't even understand...

I could jump to the conclusion and say that image above is a hoax, and people would call me a "debunker", a "disinfo agent", or just "too quick to judge", and some might even claim I am "close minded", and claim "I didn't do any investigation before deciding"...

I really don't care... I KNOW it is fake, just by looking at it. I can label every single thing wrong with it, and people will still believe it is real, and still want more questions answered simply because they don't have the ability to see that it is fake. I am not saying it is fake because it's an unlikely situation or I don't believe it could happen, but because it just doesn't look real, it's not of reality. It's almost like knowing a cartoon is not real, it is just obvious.

That is basically what is happening here with this UFO. I knew the UFO was fake from the beginning.... to convince or prove it to others I had to find things that could be explained to them, and that is a difficult task, because some things just can't be explained to some people. Some of it just takes experience and or familiarity.

I am pretty sure CNN and BBC and other places have people like me who can see that it is fake and say "don't even report it, it's a sham". You really don't need to think about it in this UFO case, that is how obvious of a hoax it is... but some how it has gotten far enough for people to outright go crazy about it.

Yeah, I heard that 1/28 date is not correct for some reason - like a day ahead maybe? I tried to look at the 1/29 web cam, but the Jerusalem live web cam videos no longer load for me like they did in beginning. Someone else on this thread said it was working for them, though. www.02ws.com...

Someone apparently was able to spot a orb of light in the spot and time of the apparent sighting. And also they spotted it a few other times - at night, just over a period of a few days though. None from before that date range. Could be moon coming in and out?

Most of us are all in agreement that this is a hoax. The evidence is clearly stacked against these videos being authentic. Based on my experience with videography I'm convinced that the evidence clearly supports a hoax. Thought I'd throw one more media outlet into the mix:

sciencefiction.com...

Last June posters at the Comic-Con expo directed people to reportthreats.org, a website apparently run by a group called Worldwide Assessment of Threats Concerning Humankind, or WATCH. The website was, of course, part of the promotional campaign for the film. The videos show a circular object descending slowly over the holy city’s iconic Dome of the Rock before flickering and shooting skyward like a rocket. Similar clips have been seen before and debunked as hoaxes. But this latest sighting had been proving more difficult to dismiss — as it was recorded from four different perspectives.

Promoting a movie with effective marketing is one thing; attempting to trick the public is a totally different matter entirely. Surely there will be those who will harbor hard feelings over this type of “media manipulation,” which in turn may translate into a lower turnout at the box office.

gift0fpr0phecy

I appreciate your insights, and think you may very well be correct. But debnkers need to realize that it's stupid of me to take your word as golden. It's NOT intelligent of me to do that. So you have to speak in layman's terms, you have to take out your own personal bias when jumping to conclusions. Just as I do in my job every day - I have to always test my intuitions, I'm in marketing/analytics, and it's surprising sometimes how wrong my intuition can be.

I appreciate your thorough investigation/analysis.

And also acknowledge the issues, though. All videos may be hoax, but no one at all is questioning why hoaxers would put out such conflicting/inconsistent videos. Were they just sloppy to discredit their better CGI video with a static image released earlier on - I'm honestly curious about what you think.