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UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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I would like to offer that the patterns made by the lights as shown in SpiritualMystics' video are merely incidental to the not very well thought out pattern that the lights flash in. No matter how much I would like those patterns to be meaningful and somehow reflect the Hebrew that SpiritualMystic suggests that they do. They do not.
Here.....check out the old Spirograph.
en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Well what I have been gently trying to suggest to you here, IG is that I think that there is nothing up there.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Good point, what do you think of Jaimie Muassan going there to interview them...does that help or hurt?



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Frater210
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
 


Well what I have been gently trying to suggest to you here, IG is that I think that there is nothing up there.

its cloaked,all you will ever see from the triangle is its 3 engines,its the only thing they can not cloak,i guess i cant make you see somthing you cant see,lol,good debunking,nice debate.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Well, Jeez! what's up with this sucker then?



www.youtube.com...


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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by BenCambell


Who then pad him on his shoulder and tell him, Well, done, boy, that's sooooo amazing, let's go straight to the press to let the world know we're not alone.
I don't think so, more likely they praise him for his creative talents and tell him to stick it on you-tube, Your friends will be real impressed when they see that, You think so, dad, mum, Sure, go ahead, we always knew you got real talent.


Nah, they won't,

It will go something like this:

Son: Look at what I just caught on camera!

Mum :.....that's not real is it?

Son.......yes, I'm telling you I was just outside and then this thing.........

Mum .....you really are serious son, calm down,

Son: I'm scared what if they come back?

Dad: I think we need help

Son: my friends aren't gonna believe this.

Dad: let me have that tape

Son: What tape.....It's digital.

Dad: Just give me the damn thing!

Son: alright chill!

Dad makes phone call. (to the local media or a psychiatrist, I'll let you decide!)


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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by Frater210
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Well what I have been gently trying to suggest to you here, IG is that I think that there is nothing up there.

its cloaked,all you will ever see from the triangle is its 3 engines,its the only thing they can not cloak,i guess i cant make you see somthing you cant see,lol,good debunking,nice debate.


Oh ok, and we're supposed to believe these "highly intelligent beings" was so smart as to add useless lights that serve no purpose to a space ship that HAS CLOAKING ABILITY.

So thats why ninjas wore glow in the dark outfits!



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Of course it is, Debo. I have never been able to figure that one out. The lights. Do they have custom 'saucer' shops where all these things come from? I can just imagine...... "And I want the brightest, funkiest lights you've got for it. I really want those earthlings to see me coming'. I mean, you go to abduct somebody and you show up in something that looks like it belongs in the 'Electric Light Parade' at Disneyland. Think 'Guardian' UFO. Yeah, no one will notice that. And



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Frater210
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Of course it is, Debo. I have never been able to figure that one out. The lights. Do they have custom 'saucer' shops where all these things come from? I can just imagine...... "And I want the brightest, funkiest lights you've got for it. I really want those earthlings to see me coming'. I mean, you go to abduct somebody and you show up in something that looks like it belongs in the 'Electric Light Parade' at Disneyland. Think 'Guardian' UFO. Yeah, no one will notice that. And




I mean I'm not trying to belittle anyone, I just try to make some people see how silly they sound. It's as if they don't even try to think about what they've said. Like they just jot down the first incoherent thought before it gets the chance to be filtered out by their "common sense".



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
skiptic over lord,can you just answer me one question and one question only.
do you see what i see in 1:02 waiting....


I see three orange dots (really?) added into blackness, at the tail-end of an already heavily debunked poorly made video.

How many times are we going to see these type of silly lights in hoax videos before we reflexively dismiss such nonsense immediately?



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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That statement can really apply to many of the threads on this topic.
Maybe just a lack of knowledge from some?
Silly lights are often the norm,.


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posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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This, in my opinion, is what makes this so interesting from a social sciences perspective.
This person has recently completed an anthropological study of the hacker community. I hope to see the same soon for our community. It would be fascinating stuff.
www.theatlantic.com...



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Sorry, i did ask a while back, but no one replied. I really did read all the thread, but it got to the point that i was so happy with the validity of skepticoverlord and mm's posts that i started to just skim them. Did i miss where they showed the backgrounds in 1 and 2 were also from stock photos? Its just the icing on the cake for me if thats been shown. I was trying to explain it to a friend and i went to say they have all been shown to be still stocks shots, but i didn't because i wasnt sure if i could remember that for real. Hey, its been a long thread and theres been so much back and forth, ive got muddled and caught up a number of times.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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yea, this thread should just officially be closed, because theres literately nothing else to discuss anymore. dead



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

How many times are we going to see these type of silly lights in hoax videos before we reflexively dismiss such nonsense immediately?


Exactly-

I brought this up earlier about how cheesy those red swirly orbs at the end were... To me, it was the dagger right away

I would've actually believed this video a little more if they had not added those stupid lights in.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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I haven't read more than a few pages from these threads, but couldn't somebody disprove this simply by finding a video at the same time of the event without the ufo from a camera filming the dome, a street nearby.... or are these the only videos of the dome at that moment ?
I'm sure somebody's thought of this.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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just look up 2 posts. Unless lights can just disappear, that is hardcore, undoubtable evidence of the mirror tile effect. This cannot be dismissed at all,

its over GG been fun



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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It really has. Thanks for all of your help.



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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But you don't even need that video to disprove it you just need a video from lets say security cameras at the dome for example and it will just show nothing, no light on that video but the dome or was that covered in the hundreds of pages?



posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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I certainly respect your view and see where you are coming from. The items of interest in your analysis are what I was drawn to in video 4. With the addition to the figure in the foreground. I am not an expert in CGI but I do set up and light chroma screens for a living. The subtlties of lighting is what I get paid to do. This video felt very genuine to me. You are clearly more skilled in the parameters of modern consumer CGI than I. If you feel these videos are a likely hoax based on the content it would sway my opinion.

But consider this:

Being 1:00am on the Sabbath may explain why there aren't 20 other videos floating around but it wouldn't explain the lack of eyewitnesses.

If there were many other eyewitness how would you hear about them? The news? Blogs? Tough for us to find blogs or mentions posted on a social network when there is a high probability the posts would be in Yittish. But the media would certainly have translators to get the stories out there right? What news source would these witnesses likely contact? I would think the biggest news source in Jerusalem..."The Jerusalem Post"

The Jerusalem Post did in fact report on this event!
www.jpost.com...

The highlight of their story was of course the obvious fake...the 3rd. video. But why would they take this stance? Consider the implications of the videos authenticity. The turmoil in Egypt. Israel's cold war with Iran. The last thing Israel would want is panic, for their citizens to feel unprotected, the core beliefs to be tested by aliens. No country wants to deal with that, not even America hence the biased coverage. It makes sense that they would want to sweep this under the rug and fast.

But why would these people go to Youtube with the videos? Look who talked them into doing it, a less than honest web troll (you know who I'm talking about). He got to them first and sweet talked them in their native language. He recently gave an interview and talks about how he got to them and how he put them on a very "contrived" path. It sounds like they listened to the wrong person.

Just a few things you may want to consider here...

Thanks again for your imput on this topic. With MUFON on the way to do some real field investigation I can only hope the truth is revealed one way or the other.



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