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I don't know if it a hoax or not. The people claiming it is a hoax have only had youtube video to work with, which in my opinion is useless. Until we can have the original footage to test, I think it's an unknown event. The people claiming it is real have no better idea of it's reality than the debunkers. My opinion is reserved until such a time as the actual footage can be reviewed and studied. Until then, it remains a question mark
Originally posted by jennybee35
reply to post by Mr Mask
I have never heard of David Biedny until it came up on this thread. Work for "them". I don't even know who "them" is, and neither do you.
I have found these people thru these threads. I am at least trying to go to the "source" which is more than I can say for you.
You are just an armchair debunker. That's fine, as it obviously gives you a sense of grand superiority.
I think you need to get a grip and stop attacking members like myself on ATS who have NEVER proven themselves to be hard-headed and obstinate.
I don't care what you think about me,
you should be ashamed for treating any member the way you just did me.
The worst part of it all is that back-handed apology. Keep it to yourself.
I would like to see the "real data" on the original footage. If you consider that pathetic, I think you need a reality check.
Just because I don't whole-heartedly accept your word as the gospel truth, you are offended. I think THAT"S pathetic.
Now, tell me some more about myself, wouldja?!
Originally posted by Paradigm2012
I am going to upload my complete study showing that video 1,2,4 are not hoaxes.
stay tuned for my complete study
and I will share it with ATS first
You will see that this is NOT A HOAX when you READ MY STUDY.
Originally posted by css1981
reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy
Your video proves nothing...
Can you actualy make a 'jeruzalem ufo' video yourself ?
I don't think you can.
Originally posted by bisonpowers
Well I'm sold on this being a hoax now, definitely feel that the balance has been tipped but it's been fun. Thank you everybody that stated their cases well with analysis, that's what makes ATS better than all the wannabe forums, until next time.
Originally posted by DeboWilliams
reply to post by Frater210
edit on 5-2-2011 by DeboWilliams because: (no reason given)
Note the circles ( pay attention to the peak inside the circles) and the highlighted inverted green areaedit on 5-2-2011 by DeboWilliams because: (no reason given)edit on 5-2-2011 by DeboWilliams because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
reply to post by css1981
The video you are replying to was made specifically for the member who didn't think the motion tile effect moves and rotates. It wasn't really to prove anything (except that the member didn't know what he was talking about)...
..and yes, I CAN re-make the Jerusalem videos, and probably better. In fact, I can make the programs that were used to make the UFOs.
This is the video that proves motion tiling was used, and there is computer generated camera movements.
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Originally posted by enektyk
Has anyone created an "all-in-one" page with all the debunking evidence laid out in bullet points with photos?