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Down with FEAR! No Masks Needed!

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posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Hi friends, how's it going?

Until today, this is how I've presented myself to the ATS community since I became a member in 2009. This was my 'avatar' :

Why did I choose such a creepy image? I mean, I'm a nice guy, why present myself to you folks with such a disturbing graphic?

When I first joined ATS, I did not have an 'avatar'. After countless debates in various threads I started to feel that I must have a spooky picture to represent myself to let the folks I'm arguing with and TPTB know that I mean business.

Recently a member from Vermont (where I live) sent me a U2U. At first I was reluctant to respond. With my tinfoil hat tightly secured, my mind was flooded with thoughts of dis-info agents, MIBs and homeland security task force agents kicking my door in as soon as I revealed my name and location to him. I didn't contact him.

Until the next day
I caught this short video and I realized something. There is no reason to mask ourselves, its the few in power and their minions who need the masks



The egyptian people have overcome fear. The hero at 0:46 is the voice of us, the people. And thats what we all are, just people. We are not comic book characters. We are not scary creeps. We are not huddled in our moms basement playing video games and reading about ufos while eating cheetos.

We are just people, normal everyday joes working to feed our families.

I am stuck in traffic in the car right behind yours at 5:15pm

We do not have special powers and gigantic anime swords on our backs. We are not airbrushed. There are no doves flying around us. We are not part of a tree or a comic book looking soldier with a cool cigarette dangling from our mouth at all times. I'm a store clerk. I play guitar and the drums and enjoy growing my own food.

I am not the MSM stereotyped "conspiracy theorist" I just seek news, truthful undistorted & unbiased news and ATS is one of the few places where I can find this. Why? Because the people, you and I, dig for it, post it, and if it cannot be backed up by credible sources, we rip it to shreds. MSM does not do this. They make a statement, we call shenanigans, then they call us (the people) crazy.

So I've got a message for you MSM. We don't want or need you anymore. We have no use for you. You the MSM, its YOU who needs a mask. We the people are not hiding anymore. We do not fear you because we are many and you are few.

In conclusion I ask you all, my fellow people. Unmask yourself like so many have already done both here on ATS and in the world. Let TPTB know that you will not hide, because you do not fear.

Let them know, you mean business.

Thanks for reading.



ps I'm not sure if this is the right forum, sorry mods please move it wherever it belongs

edit on 2-2-2011 by vermonster because: ps




posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by vermonster
We are not huddled in our moms basement playing video games and reading about ufos while eating cheetos.


You're right about the 'moms basement' part but I will vehemently stand up for, and fight for, the reading about UFOs, playing video games and eating Cheetos part.

Sometimes you need a full release after a hard days graft and there's nothing better than the soap opera of conspiracy and video games, whilst eating Cheetos (And glugging Clamato juice in the AM and beer in the PM).

Nice to see you biometric scanned, I mean..unmasked.

-m0r



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by m0r1arty
.Nice to see you biometric scanned, I mean..unmasked.


Gee Thanks for crapping out some fear on my thread.


Do you have a drivers license pal? Is there a picture of you on it or not?

Do you have an email address, a mailing address, or a facebook account?

Stop feeding the fearporn, its killin us.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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I'm on your side mate, believe me my humorous attempts at frivolous chiding are nothing compared to the wave of "You are COINTELPRO trying to get us to show ourselves through a false message of peace!!!" that is coming your way.

Sorry if I offended and seriously glad to see you can live with happiness and integrity with your own image being displayed alongside your writing. Just like when having an opinion in real life. I mean it when I say I'm glad you can and more people should too - this just isn't the place to mention it


-m0r



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all." -Mario Savio

You are not on my side. Your mentality is part of the problem. Your 'avatar' puts you in the same category as Jared Loughner in the eyes of many.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by vermonster
Your 'avatar' puts you in the same category as Jared Loughner in the eyes of many.


Can you cite that claim or is it just your opinion?

Since we are posting Youtube videos here's one from me:



-m0r



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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?

Your video is narrated by Alec Baldwin.

A hired goon spokesman for NBC/GE/MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

Do you have anything else to add to this thread?



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by vermonster
Do you have anything else to add to this thread?


A request for citations and a big hug for you and your new found ability to show your face.

Also a request for anyone else to come in here and comment too.

And perhaps for it to be moved to skunkworks.

That's about all I can think of for the moment vermonster - I'll get back to you if I can think of any more though!

-m0r



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Skunkworks?

Why derail my thread with your nonsense?

Keep running your mouth from behind your mask.




posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by vermonster
Skunkworks?

Why derail my thread with your nonsense?


It's not really a board or business related thread now is it?

I can't find anywhere else for it to be apt in it's current form and so I suggested Skunkworks.

PROTIP: Don't ask a question of me and I'll not appear here again unless I want to.

The only person exposing any area of fear here is you - I used humour and supported you in the beginning. Perhaps you should lay of the paranoid cigarettes or cookies or whatever it is making you feel victimised on a public forum known for outlandish conspiracies and concepts.

-m0r



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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edit on 2-2-2011 by K8sarvesbarkooh because: changed my mind. sorry.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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I could be wrong, but I think he means Main Stream Media. Not err.. that other thing. lol



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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I agree with you! And I always wondered about that avatar of yours, ha ha!
I just recently stuck my face in my avatar as well. I figure that if they want to find me, they're gonna do it anyway. I have facebook, driver's license, once had a high security job I had to be fingerprinted for... you name it. Now, I'm not about to post my full name, birth date, social security number, etc. on here, but that's just common sense, lol. I really don't see why TPTB would be interested in finding me, but if they were, they wouldn't need the help of anything I've posted here on ATS to do it.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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now THAT would be something to fear.

Vermonster, i run a business. I don't need the world associating my personal opinions on my business. My avatars will stay. Besides, they aren't that far from the truth.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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edit on 2-2-2011 by K8sarvesbarkooh because: changed my mind. sorry.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by K8sarvesbarkooh
mOr:
When you brought up biometrics, were you being facetious, or do you think that there is a entity that would use Vermonster's new 'avatar' to put him into a system by way of biometrics? If you are not being facetious, do you think that IP addresses collected by NARUS and then geo-databased (location attached to person attributes, etc) or interwoven in a Nexus (like) database would be more likely?


I sometimes use humour as a double edged sword (and sometimes I don't). In this case were a program to come along to ATS and scan avatars or personal images then biometric data would be easy to collect from the pictures posted here. If those pictures were then processed against say Flickr or Facebook then a good indication of who someone might be would automatically appear within seconds. If theses assumptions about who someone is are run against their posting data and correlations are found then it could be assumed, at a level, that this person is who they say they are. Logging their travelling details or purchases ahead of them verifying this with photos at any of the locations you have them assumed to be would certify that you now know who that person is.

This software is already available and being tested publicly on Facebook and so any prior versions of it used at military or governmental control sections will already have been fully deployed years ago.

Of course, as the OP points out I am not welcome here and only spread fear in my posts and so good luck to them for showing their real face and paranoia. I'm sure they are now on a database somewhere being profiled as we speak.

Good evening!

-m0r



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by m0r1arty
The only person exposing any area of fear here is you

Please provide an example.

The following quote is from your first response, in fact you concluded with it.

Originally posted by m0r1arty
Nice to see you biometric scanned, I mean..unmasked.

A statement like that breeds apathetic serfs. Why hide our faces and names yet not our thoughts? What's the point? Did Thomas Paine cower behind a fake name and picture? Did he make jokes about something this serious?

Originally posted by m0r1arty
Perhaps you should lay of the paranoid cigarettes or cookies or whatever it is making you feel victimised on a public forum known for outlandish conspiracies and concepts.
Perhaps you should pull your head out of......the sand. I never said I was a victim or even implied it. Again please provide an example.

M0r1arty, you seem like a nice enough fella, after reading some of your posts I can see you are mainly interested in space aliens. Good luck in your quest. My thread was inspired by a recent connection I made with a neighbor who also happens to be a member here on ATS. It is mainly directed at the people on this site and the visitors who will stumble onto it from various search engines. People who are sick to death with 98% of the earths population under the control of the elite 2%. I am calling for people to rise up, unmask themselves and take a stand, instead of bitching and moaning about how much the world sucks while masking their identity.

Fear is a powerful weapon. Whether you choose to accept it or not, your response to my original post is unhealthy for humanity.

Have a nice day.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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edit on 2-2-2011 by K8sarvesbarkooh because: changed my mind. sorry.



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by vermonster

Originally posted by m0r1arty
The only person exposing any area of fear here is you

Please provide an example.



Originally posted by vermonster
Why did I choose such a creepy image? I mean, I'm a nice guy, why present myself to you folks with such a disturbing graphic?


As for Thomas Paine, what is in a name? A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet...

Actions are important, words too, the person who says them the most important - especially if they are on mass and organised.

As it is the general populous is kept unorganised, ill-informed and fearful. They won't change their ways overnight regardless of anyone's best intentions through open debate.

Yup, ATS is one place I look into aerial phenomena which is unusual. For a living a work in developing nations trying to establish social justice and human rights in areas of extreme poverty and hardship, so I am allowed some down time to play with the hoi polloi - not that I need an excuse for my behaviour in a public discussion forum where I conform to the terms and conditions required to take part.


Originally posted by K8sarvesbarkooh
Perhaps, you might show a bit more compassion?


I'm off the clock on ATS. This is where someone who has spent all their compassion goes to rant at those who have safe running drink water, education, adequate policing and democratic governance. So please excuse me if I seem a little on edge when dealing with things which I consider to be luxuries treated like trash.

The web is a great leveller. Here you can state your case and explain it and learn from others freely. Sure there's a bit of trolling here and there - but that's life.

I'll admit I do a bit of both, but always with good enough reason for me to sleep at night.

-m0r



posted on Feb, 2 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Interesting thread.

I don't know about others, but my reasons are due to my business as one other person mentioned; not fear. I forbid discussions of Politics and Religion in my office for the same reason. Yes there is fear of insulting somebody or loosing a customer over an ideological difference but that is more wisdom than fear. I think though your point is fear of government and authorities.

You may not be risking your means of supporting yourself and your loved ones while others of us would risk that exact thing.

I do think also it could be unwise however because of people like Loughner. They see you on here, discover they live down the block from you, you get in a heated debate with them and they snap. No more you.

In the end its up to you and your own reasons. The Owners of the Board can't hide themselves, nor can the occasional celebrity guest here like Marrs for instance. In their case they must be transparent to earn a living the same as for others being transparent could take away that ability to earn a living.

What matters I guess is that you do what is right for you, but to judge anyone else negatively for not doing the same is well, wrong.

My Avatar is because I see it as how I am. That particular Bear was play-fighting with another two year old, his Sibling. Even though he looked ferocious, he was as gentle as a Lamb. People tell me my physical appearance is frighting to some as I'm quite large in stature, heavily muscled and I'm told I look angry and mean in a WWF Wrestler sort of way. I'm not of course, I'm a pacifist and it's been both a blessing and a hindrance at times. I see that picture I took of that Brown Bear as representative.

I figured out long ago not to place any meaning on Avatars. I'm sure many if not most are just images people find pleasing or cool looking somehow. It's the words we type that are most revealing about us in that regard.




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