reply to post by adjensen
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
Do we go out on street corners or college campuses holding up signs saying such things (except in mockery of those religious folks who do)?
I'm curious, do you find anything hurtful or hateful in regards to
this particular campaign?
Hateful? Nope. Hurtful? Well, that's a personal issue. It's someone offering one piece of text for another. You can already get a Bible for free.
Now, it is more than a bit silly and childish, but I don't see how it's hateful or hurtful. I am all ears for an explanation from you if you're
willing to provide one.
Granted, I can't gather how the people operating the table were acting, and they might have been acting inappropriately. I do, however, notice that
the sign on the table reads "Atheist Agenda" rather than "Smut for Smut", the name of the campaign. This honestly seems like a respectful choice.
I'd also like to point out another thing, from the source which the link you provided cites and yet this quote is not reproduced:
"It is to send a message that the stuff in the bible, and the Quran, and the Torah, and all that sort of thing is, in our case worse, in our
opinion worse, than pornography," explained UTSA student Kyle Bush.
You do realize that he is claiming that this is a statement of opinion? Hell, his opinion of pornography doesn't seem to be too negative either. Also
at the end of the story:
This is the second year in a row for the event. Christian students were also out talking to fellow students about their beliefs. It's not known
how many students actually turned in their bibles for the pornographic material.
No conflicts, no shouting matches, no childish behavior reported. Seems like an all around decent conflict of ideas.
Persons of faith who go to street corners or college campuses holding up signs do so because they believe in something.
And the ones that go to college campuses are often the ones that hold up signs that show that they believe in hate.
Even if it's not hateful, it's still unsolicited. It's a public place where people are trying to go about other things in their lives.
Do you think it is proper to hold up signs that mock people who protest in favour of gay rights or being pro-choice?
Nope. Granted, people don't spontaneously show up on street corners to protest in favor of homosexual rights or choice. Now, if they did, they'd be
Or is it just those you disagree with that are fair game?
Oh, it has nothing to do with the people who disagree with me. I have no problems with preachers, so long as they're preaching in a respectful
manner. Blasting out messages in random places is a different story. It's the behavior, not the message, that's most disrespectful...well, I guess
there are some messages that would be equally disrespectful.
What is the value in mocking other people -- do you think that it makes a more salient point about the mocker or the person being belittled for their
Being belittled for their beliefs? I'm sorry, but when someone comes on to a college campus basically denouncing everyone on that campus, they are
doing the belittling and are not open to logical discourse. In fact, logical discourse does tend to be the first attempted recourse in these
situations. Guess how that turns out? Yep, like talking to a wall.
If you're going to preach in public, you have to engage those you're preaching to. If you're just there to spout off hate, be prepared for a
In fact, I'm going to do something I don't normally do, praise Mormons for religious action. When not going door-to-door early in the morning, their
missionaries handle things very well. They are polite, respectful, and ask people if they'd like to engage rather than simply standing on a box or
holding up a sign or shouting at a crowd. This is respectful behavior and I'd respect it from any group, even if it were neo-Nazis. The message might
be crap, but at least they're being respectful about it.
If atheists or any other group acted in this manner I would denounce them equally.