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Originally posted by Condemned0625
You claim that the discovery of other Earth-like worlds is "against" the possibility of intelligent life, but that's just an opinion. How the hell is that a "vote" against it? There never was a damn vote in the first place. It's time for facts and statistical probabilities, not mere opinions.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Perhaps your not aware that most religious texts have been significantly altered and/or banned meaning the true words of god have been mixed with paganism, especially up to the 4th century ad by the romans. Why would the various religious councils need to ban something like 30 books and barely mention anything about satan in the meantime?
"her"? What makes you think god is a her or him?
Originally posted by Lucifer777
Dear Jesus
I would also like you to give "Adjensen" the power to cure all lepors and blind people in the world, and the power to miraculously cast mountains into the sea, and I would like you to do this immediately; and while you are at it, I would like you to immediately remove all Christians and religious fanatics from the earth; I pray all this in Jesus name.
Regards
Your eternal enemy.
Lucifer
Ah this explains a lot! I was going to call you an ignorant fool but then I saw this ridiculous letter
and realise your one of those new age LaVey satanists! Do tell us, are you a theistic satanist or an "atheist" satanist?
That should be interesting.
Originally posted by adjensen
So the Fermi Paradox poses the question -- well then, where are they? There are a number of answers to that question that fit in with your beliefs, but I personally take a kind of negative view -- the constraints of General Relativity and the incredible distances between stars make practical interstellar travel impossible, so we're all just kind of drifting on our islands in space and, within such a closed system, no society can be particularly long lived.
Originally posted by Lucifer777
The New Testament appears to be a total fabrication derived in the 4th century era of Constantine from aspects of "in all, two thousand two hundred and thirty-one scrolls and legendary tales of gods and saviors, together with a record odoctrines orated by themf the " ("Life of Constantine," Ibid); however whenever a Christian refers to the fraudulent, edited and re-edited New Testament, they are generally not agreeing with the conclusions of historical and textual criticism, which would destroy their entire faith; they are usually just claiming that some passage which they disagree with, and which does not suit their personal beliefs and misinterpretations can be discarded as being unreliable; they are then free to just make up their religion as they go along and to later reject the conclusions of literary and historical criticism when there is some pasage they wish to cite.
Originally posted by Lucifer777
What makes you think that god is a "man?" Could this just be a projection of your own homo-erotic desires for a dominant sadistic male?
Originally posted by Lucifer777
Well you are not mocking me really, but rather you are mockng your god Jesus. I am just responding to his teachings. After all he did claim that "anythng" that we requested in his name would be answered. I was only requesting that your Christian brother could have the power to cure leprosy and blindness and the power to throw mountains into the sea.
Originally posted by Lucifer777
Well the Laveyan Satanists are essentially just atheists who believe that your sadistic and genocidal deity is just an anthropomorphic psychological projection and has no real existence. I do agree that the Biblical deity is an evil anthropomorphic projection, however I am not convinced that this ancient deity is "only" a mental projection; as a consequence of a lifetime of experiences with shamanic psychoactives, I do tend to "believe" that such demonic deities do actually exist in other dimensions; I am really more of a Crowleyist than a Laveyan; my revulsion for your Biblical deity has nothng to do with the alleged existence of non existence of your sadistic, genocidal god, it has more to do with how he is defined, and the rather long and bloody history of his devotees
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by adjensen
So the Fermi Paradox poses the question -- well then, where are they? There are a number of answers to that question that fit in with your beliefs, but I personally take a kind of negative view -- the constraints of General Relativity and the incredible distances between stars make practical interstellar travel impossible, so we're all just kind of drifting on our islands in space and, within such a closed system, no society can be particularly long lived.
If your going to discount the possibility of wormholes, nuclear energy and anti-matter then what you say has lots of merits, however lots of sci-fi books have been written and many sci-movies produced, meaning its more than likely aliens are visiting us constantly but do not wish to make their appearance in public.
Originally posted by adjensen
Stable wormholes of sufficient constancy are theoretically unlikely (though possible, of course, and if someone had that million year head start, well...) but barring such "tricks", no type or amount of energy (within reason) is going to accomplish practical interstellar travel through real space. Generational ships, sure, but that's for colonization, not exploration, so we once again butt our heads into the "where are they?" because if they were colonizing planets a million years ago, they'd be everywhere, including here, long before the planet showed the slightest inkling of harbouring intelligent life.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I am not a closed minded religious fanatic so when evidence of anything is presented I always take a look at it and judge the contents for myself. I know for a fact the council of laodicea banned quite a few christian books but the jews banned "controversial" material themselves so where does that leave us?
Originally posted by Lucifer777
Well you are not mocking me really, but rather you are mockng your god Jesus. I am just responding to his teachings. After all he did claim that "anythng" that we requested in his name would be answered. I was only requesting that your Christian brother could have the power to cure leprosy and blindness and the power to throw mountains into the sea.
Jesus is the alleged son of god and of the virgin mary!
Jesus may have had the power to cure illnesses and perform other special tasks, but why should he give everyone those powers, especially to those who do not believe in him?
Even if the bible and other religious texts have been totally perverted by the will of satan I do not see how that justifies hate in jesus and god.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by adjensen
Stable wormholes of sufficient constancy are theoretically unlikely (though possible, of course, and if someone had that million year head start, well...) but barring such "tricks", no type or amount of energy (within reason) is going to accomplish practical interstellar travel through real space. Generational ships, sure, but that's for colonization, not exploration, so we once again butt our heads into the "where are they?" because if they were colonizing planets a million years ago, they'd be everywhere, including here, long before the planet showed the slightest inkling of harbouring intelligent life.
By generational ships do you mean aliens living&traveling in big hollow spheres at less than light speed?
Many ships and airplanes have mysteriously disappared both in the bermuda triangle and the dragons triangle. I am pretty sure there are lots of mudane explanations, but still it makes for great discussion and wondering of the mind if nothing else.
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by madnessinmysoul
Humans have to believe in something.
Oh, I absolutely agree, which is why I brought it up -- it changes one of the key variables in the Drake Equation, to statistically favour lots of interstellar life
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by adjensen
Oh, I absolutely agree, which is why I brought it up -- it changes one of the key variables in the Drake Equation, to statistically favour lots of interstellar life
"Fermi paradox"
A good read too
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I suggest you and others take a close look at project camelot to get an idea. Yes it can be shocking but do people prefer to remain in the dark with wishful thinking alone? Maybe something can be done and a revolution of the mind will transform to a revolution of politics but we gotta start by accepting the truth for what it is. A revolution just for the sake of revolution is counter-productive and dumb! Thanks for the rant...............
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
By what logic and reason to you form your faith in God? Have you heard of the Atheists wager? (Similar to Pascal's wager)
My state of faith is a lifetime journey, but the bit that opened my eyes came out of some things that I was doing in maths and physics