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The Cough heard around the world....

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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 09:07 AM
One "for my books" was a throat-tickling, dry cough, and constant lozenges to stop it, especially when lying down. The it "doubled" and I went to a Walk-In Clinic (quicker than waiting for a doctor's app't.) I had a lung infection, was prescribed meds, and a 'puffer' and was okay in couple of weeks, but with no idea what had happened.

The words "lung infection" made me think 'stop smoking', after my 54 years at it and I did. What a marvel!!

My friend wanted to help me live in a in a brand new "no odour of stale smoke anywhere" apartment so began to help, being I am in a wheelchair. She lifted the ramp to the balcony and, OMG! black mold and mushrooms....

The carpet had been cleaned April 12/10 and the ramp put down too soon, I expect, as well as it is not well ventilated. --yet never happened before. I had been struck by a car and couldn't lift it and the Insurance Co. didn't allow enough time for the cleaning person to do it, so the mold was left to grow

My friend came down with a lung infection, actually pneumonia, but was done in by the mold, and she was right in the midst before I gave her a mask etc. She was off sick for 2 weeks.

Some things are *not* conspiracies.....(never thought I'd say that!)

posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 07:05 PM
reply to post by canadiansenior70

I think mold is one of the biggest culprits - it's one of the organisms that is mutating rapidly these days, and spreading places it's never been before - creating biofilms too!!! ...Am hypersensitive and it gets me fast.

Also, in my case (along with other problems), my new doctor diagnosed arthritis in my neck with bone spurs and nerve compression - advanced, and likely permanent. The nerve damage affects the autonomic nervous system and breathing. ...I already work out to maintain mobility and muscle tone so physiotherapy does NOT help - but neck traction does.

(File for future reference - I suspect the problem is under-diagnosed and far more common than is currently apparent.)

posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 08:20 PM
reply to post by neformore

zOMG! A cold that keeps coming back? In the WINTER?!?

What sort of dastardly plot could this be?

I had one hell of a hang nail the other day. It was likely the NWO at work.

posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 10:56 PM
Update for me..

After 4 weeks or so the worst of it is past. I only used Anti-Biotics for 5 days, as prescribed, then dumped them in favour of building up the Immune System instead of killing it off. I used a combination Echinacea/Garlic/C tablets twice a day and once a day B group/C fizzy pill in a glass of water.

The difference it made doing that was brilliant.. within two days I was able to breathe again, sleep for hours instead of minutes and I don't hurt anywhere so much now.

Pffft to the Doc's I who ran all the tests on me.

edit on 22-2-2011 by Tayesin because: dyslexia

posted on Feb, 22 2011 @ 11:06 PM
Two teaspoons of apple cider vinegar 4 times a day or more. Will knock it right out in less then a week. It keeps the body slightly alkaline and disease cannot reside in an alkaline body. If you really want to kick it into gear add some Cayenne pepper to it. I use a shot glass and top it off with water to take the edge off, you can top it off with juice too if you want. It taste nasty but you get used to it pretty fast. Oh and make the decision to get well...

posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:05 AM
reply to post by inkyminds

Apparently you haven't been reading what others are saying too. It is different than normal, more seemingly insidious in that it seems to keep mutating and in some cases coming back worse than before. Also, you didn't seem to notice that it's all over the place and that many posters have presented theories about what it is and why it's occurring now and in such large numbers. Again, you don't seem to have read the thread. It's not "just a cold."

Also, some of the posters started the sickness in the summer too. So no, not just a cold and not just in winter. Read.
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posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:09 AM
About one year ago I went to the see doctor due to a cough I have that everyone else in my family noticed that I have. I had a few check ups and there was nothing to be found. I even had an ex-ray to see if I had something visible in the lungs, which I did not have. I asked the doctors what it could be and they had no explanation what so ever.

Also worth mentioned is that I suffer from depression/OCD and GAD since 2004, diagnosed by a different doctor.

Since I already cough so much I recently started to smoke simply because there will be no different from the coughing I already had.

posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:18 AM
reply to post by hawkiye

It didn't work for me, cayenne pepper, colloidal silver, various doses of vit d3, echinacea, propolis, active honey and bicarbonate of soda all failed, I think it may be a fine particulate or fungus causing the cough, where from I duno maybe volcanoes or chemtrails or the Russian forest fires.

posted on Mar, 19 2011 @ 11:34 AM
I have had said cough since June. After antibiotics and steroids, still have it. Sure it has lessened from the misery that was the two first months, but it did a number on me.

posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 05:47 AM
I think a change in diet can give the immune system a big help. Cut out all dairy products, they are mucus forming and often cause mild reactions putting extra stress on the immune system. Cut out all grains, again these often cause low level reactions in most people that put the immune system under pressure, especially when we are ill. I have read that legumes can cause problems, again putting stress on the body.

Eat fresh, lean meat with plenty of green leaf veg. Adding garlic, ginger and chilli to our diet as well as blueberries and cider vinegar can be advantageous.

Of course seek professional medical advice

posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 05:56 AM
Two other supplements to consider taking are zinc, and MSM.
Stands for methylsulphonylmethane, sounds dangerous but it ain't!

It occurs naturally in various food but only in small amounts.
Benefits are bolstered immune system and anti-inflammitory properties, and also aids absorption
of other vitamins and minerals. Get it from health food shops like Holland and Barret.

posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 08:19 AM
I have had this cough for two years. I have tried everything except the apple cider vinegar, which I will try. I think it's
mold. As an REO real estate agent I come in contact with it often. I am sensitive to it. I don't think I'll ever stop needing treatment of some sort. I have told my crew to wear masks and gloves since my foreman now is coughing.

posted on Mar, 20 2011 @ 08:23 AM
I've had a persistent cough that I cannot get rid of since right after Christmas (of 2010). It's so annoying, I want it gone.

posted on May, 9 2020 @ 04:21 AM
Bumping this 10 year old thread. I always remembered this title for some reason. My asthma was uncontrollable around this time.

I wonder if this was one of the circulating corona viruses?

posted on May, 9 2020 @ 04:50 AM
a reply to: Daughter2

Swine flu kicked off in late 2009 , could well have been that doing a.second round. Spanish flu lasted a good couple of years , most people werent vaxed against swine flu. was the site of choice for any meaningful updates.

edit on 9-5-2020 by DoctorBluechip because: (no reason given)

In fact , it very likely was , read this


The 2011 H1N1 Pandemic Fiasco
Recombinomics Commentary 14:50
January 1, 2011

Despite three people in East Yorkshire already dying from swine flu this year, Jim Deacon, assistant director of emergency planning for the NHS in the Humber region, insisted the threat is no greater than in the past.
Swine flu is the most predominant strain of flu this winter and is classed as part of seasonal flu.

Mr Deacon said deaths from seasonal flu are not as high as previous years and the fact the most common strain this year is swine flu is "not significant".

"But you would expect something like 2,000 deaths nationally from flu by this time of year and it is about 400 so far.

The above comments encapsulate the 2011 pandemic fiasco, an abject failure to control the spread of H1N1 in 2011, which is well represented by the health care crisis in the United Kingdom.

The fiasco really traces back to the SARS pandemic, when laboratory confirmation was used to define and quantify SARS coronavirus infections.  There was a clear need for an accurate number of cases because of the significant financial, political, and social impacts of infections, and shortly after the mysterious disease began to spread internationally, a laboratory test based on the novel coronovirus was in place and distributed worldwide.

However, the testing requirements provided a convenient mechanism for gaming the system by simply limiting testing.  Prior to the test China limited knowledge of the disease by simply not reporting cases.  They subsequently lowered the case fatality rate by increasing the number of mild cases tested.  However, Taiwan was the country that aggressively lowered its number of SARS cases by cremating bodies prior to sample collection and classifying these cases, which clinically matched SARS confirmed cases, as SARS-related cases, thereby cutting the number of SARS confirmed cases in half.

This manipulation of confirmed cases was quickly extended to influenza in general and H5N1 in particular.  The most effective way of limiting the spread of confirmed H5N1 cases was to simply not test.  Consequently, the H5N1 index cases for Cambodia, Indonesia, and China were not counted because samples were not collected, and the first confirmed cases in each country were contacts of the index cases.  The “not testing” approach was also widely applied to outbreaks in poultry and wild birds, initially in Asia, but subsequently in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.
The testing requirement and associated gross undercounts were eventually applied to the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, leading to major misconceptions about the spread and gravity of the outbreak.  Infections in schools were underplayed because only lab confirmed cases were cited and the vast majority of infected students were not tested.  This allowed schools to remain open and the high levels of H1N1 undisclosed.  It also created a gross undercount of cases, which extended to severe and fatal cases.

The gross undercount was magnified by comparisons to historic levels of seasonal flu deaths.  In the United States the annual number was 36,000, but these were deaths of the frail and elderly who were estimated by death certificates and clinically defined cases, not lab confirmation.
These very different approaches in estimating seasonal and pandemic H1N1 deaths led to false comparisons, including media reports claiming the H1N1 was an infection that was much milder than seasonal flu, when lab confirmed deaths in young adults were compared to estimates of deaths of patients who were well over 65 years of age and battling long term health problems.

The public and in some cases agency perceptions of the false comparisons were compounded by the WHO proclamation on the end of pandemic phase of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic in August of 2010.  Although a new sub-clade was emerging in Australia and previously healthy young adults were dying in Australia and India, the pandemic phase was declared over because the seasonal H3N2 influenza A as well as influenza B began to re-emerge while pandemic H1N1 levels were low in the northern hemisphere.  However, and decline in the pandemic strain is the norm, which is due to the target population developing immunity.  However, the pandemic strain develops variants which can escape from the immune response, which produces a new wave, as is currently seen in the UK.

The UK H1N1 includes the sub-clade that was emerging in Australia when the WHO issued its August proclamation.  This sub-clade and other variants continue to evolve away from the 2009 vaccine target as well as immune responses generated against the H1N1 circulating last season, including the vaccine target A/California/7/2009, which is again the target for this season.

One such change was G158E, which was present in
However, when D158E began to appear in US isolates, the CDC changed its assay, which no longer classified H1N1 isolates with G158E as low reactors.  Moreover, an isolate from the Ukraine, A/Lviv/N6/2009 had another change D225G, which Mill Hill designated as a low reactor.  The CDC published a sequence from that patient that had both G158E and D225G, but they still failed to designate that isolate as a low reactor.  The WHO regional center in Australia subsequently published antigenic characterization data which showed a sharp reduction in titer for A/Lviv/N6/2009, adding to the uncertainty about the CDC assay.

Indeed, the only low reactors from the United States identified by the CDC were those with changes at the adjacent position, 159, raising further doubt about the sensitivity of the CDC assay.

The change at position D225G also was critical in vaccine production.  Isolates with D at position 225 produce a low viral yield when grown in chicken eggs.  MedImmune used a clone with D225G and had a vaccine spray delivered weeks ahead of the vaccine shot because of differences in viral yield.  The delay in the shot was significant because the spike in fall H1N1 was early and had passed its peak by the time the vaccine shot shipped in quantity.  Thus, vaccine uptake in late 2009 / early 2010 was very low and the vaccine target for 2010/2011 was unchanged.
This initial low uptake was compounded by the WHO August proclamation on the pandemic phase.  The announcement of its end led to low vaccine uptake in the fall of 2010, as well as a relaxing of pandemic preparedness.

This reduction in preparedness has led to the current fiasco in the UK, which is now starting to appear in Europe, where H1N1 is the dominant strain in circulation and vaccine uptake is low.

edit on 9-5-2020 by DoctorBluechip because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 11 2020 @ 11:15 AM
a reply to: Daughter2

Nice to know the thread has legs still

posted on May, 11 2020 @ 01:25 PM
a reply to: neformore

I liked ATS Live....those we re the days.

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