Definetly not a Christian nation now

Originally posted by KingAtlas
Okay what about the native americans....

What about them?

Originally posted by KingAtlas
why is the religion that took aways al thier right and
had them abused in residential schools so important to you,
at the same time that you are speaking about native american childeren
where being abused by priest and forced to give up their religion.

Well, the Saxons were converted by the sword (Charles the Great) ... Yes, unspeakable crimes against humanity were committed against them, no doubt about it.

Originally posted by KingAtlas
Christianity was brought here by european settlers,
and the land was not a christian nations for many years befor.
To say that christianity is so great really annoys me,
not because of your beliefs,
but because you are taking all the good and denouncing the bad.

Well, Native Americans were also forced mostly to convert; it's still amazing that they still managed to conserve some of their customs and religious and spiritual ceremonies and ways ...

reply to post by WalterRatlos


another link now

Sorry about the organ music.

Here's the link that will explain it all.




And the birds flew off to a fall out shelter eight miles high and fallen fast.

reply to post by WalterRatlos


Must you display your bitterness so sharply. I mean it really is negative.

While Christianity and religion were influences in the lives of the founding fathers, one thing was clear, they did not want a state sanctioned religion.

On the contrary, they formed a nation based on individual rights and freedom. This ideology most definitely extended to an individual's right to worship or not worship.

The State's (or government's) mandate was not to impose or sanction a certain faith, but to simply protect our individual right to practice a faith of our choice, if it is our desire to do so.

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

John Lennon

" Then we outlawed The Ten Commandments" Outlawing the law,had to make the devil smile.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by InfaRedMan

 

Indeed you are randyvs. Right back into the dark ages!

No No we have Obama for that.

LOL! Nice comeback!

IRM

Originally posted by gladtobehere
While Christianity and religion were influences in the lives of the founding fathers, one thing was clear, they did not want a state sanctioned religion.

On the contrary, they formed a nation based on individual rights and freedom. This ideology most definitely extended to an individual's right to worship or not worship.

The State's (or government's) mandate was not to impose or sanction a certain faith, but to simply protect our individual right to practice a faith of our choice, if it is our desire to do so.

The evidence when stated as such says yes. I agree with you.

reply to post by randyvs


That link you gave me was a far-right Christian website made by a guy who didn't know how to spell 'The Beatles' (He spelled it 'the beetles', the greatest musicians of all time). He doesn't even seem like he knows what he's talking about seeing as he says the song is about how Rock & Roll is evil and Christian music is sacred, while the song itself is a Rock & Roll song. He seems to contradict himself by claiming a form of music which is, according to him, "Evil" is a spiritual song.

Your link is nothing more than the rantings of a Christian who is discredited by the fact that he doesn't know how to spell 'The Beatles', you're going to have to do more than this to back up your claim.

reply to post by randyvs


Hmmm One Nation under God. Not one nation under Jesus. We never were a Christian nation. We were and still are a nation founded in the right to worship any god in any manner that you choose. It just happened that the majority of people in the US are christians but since we have a seperation of church and state we cannot be a christian nation. The majority of people in the US are also white. Does that make us a white nation?