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Egyptian Pyramids - one possible use - New Info!

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:38 PM
I did a search for this on ATS, and I haven't much if anything related to this theory I have had for a while, So I am hoping this will be a new angle for us to appreciate the pyramids.

The word ‘pyramid’ originates from the Greek words ‘pyra + mid’. ‘Pyra’ means ‘fire’ and ‘mid’ means ‘in the middle’. Thus, the literal meaning of pyramid would be – in the middle of fire (energy!).

I am going to give some relevant information upfront that will hopefully build the case for my theory.
I would like to state upfront that I believe, due to the amount of work required to build the pyramids, they MUST have multiple purposes, which I feel everyone can agree with. These purposes range from the theoretical such as a power plant or water pump, to the proven, a record of mathematical, astronomical, architectural, and spiritual knowledge.

What the Egyptians had to understand, to build the Pyramids

Every civilization has its share of creative individuals. These individuals borrow from their culture and synthesize new information. From the detailed historical records, we know that over time the ancient Egyptians developed a body of abstract information. Historical investigations into the records and buildings of the Egyptians has established they developed and maintained a body of scientific information. These things the ancient Egyptians knew with certainty (in no particular order):
* how to manipulate rational numbers (to some extent)
* how to bisect an angle
* how to construct similar polygons of certain ratios
* how to find vertical and horizontal
* that a triangle with the sides 3:4:5 was a right triangle
* that the length of a year to be 365 days

Aside from containing mathematical and architectural information, the pyramids were also a tool for spiritual growth and ascension.

Weighing in at roughly 2.5 million tonnes of extremely solid rock, not only is the pyramid a very stable structure, it must have also been very soundproof on the inside. That is a clue! Onto the interior of the pyramid!

Kings Chamber - panoramic media - check this!

The tomb within. Notice the unnecessary depth of the tomb?

Onto my theory. It is my belief that another use of the pyramids were as temples for indoctrination into the mystery school of the elite at the time. The pyramids were utilized as Sensory Deprivation Chambers, attempting to block out as much external stimuli as possible, so as to enhance the journey within.

Sensory Deprivation - wiki
"Sensory deprivation or perceptual isolation is the deliberate reduction or removal of stimuli from one or more of the senses. Simple devices such as blindfolds or hoods and earmuffs can cut off sight and hearing respectively, while more complex devices can also cut off the sense of smell, touch, taste, thermoception (heat-sense), and 'gravity'. Sensory deprivation has been used in various alternative medicines and in psychological experiments (e.g., see Isolation tank).

Short-term sessions of sensory deprivation are described as relaxing and conducive to meditation, however, extended or forced sensory deprivation can result in extreme anxiety, hallucinations, bizarre thoughts and depression."

Isolation Tanks - wiki
"An isolation tank is a lightless, soundproof tank inside which subjects float in salt water at skin temperature. They were first used by John C. Lilly in 1954 in order to test the effects of sensory deprivation. Such tanks are now also used for meditation and relaxation and in alternative medicine. Isolation tanks were originally called sensory deprivation tanks. Other synonyms for isolation tank include float tank, floating tank, floater tank, flotation tank, REST tank, flotation baths, think tank, John C. Lilly tank and sensory attenuation tank."

"Total Isolation"

"In January 2008, the BBC aired a Horizon special entitled "Total Isolation." The premise of the show centered around 6 individuals who agreed to be shut inside a cell in a nuclear bunker, alone and in the dark. Prior to isolation, the volunteers underwent tests of visual memory, information processing, verbal fluency and suggestibility. After, they spent two days and two nights in isolation. The subjects noted that their inability to sense time and the hallucinations and visions that they experienced made the 48 hours inside the cell very difficult on their mind.

Of the six volunteers, two coped well. One woman was convinced her sheets were wet. Three experienced auditory and visual hallucinations - snakes, oysters, tiny cars and zebras. After the 48 hours was complete, the same tests were conducted. The results indicated that the volunteers' ability to complete the simplest tasks had deteriorated. One subject's memory capacity fell 36% and all the subjects had trouble thinking of words beginning with the letter "F". All four of the men (neither of the two women) had markedly increased suggestibility."

When we look at the depth of the burial tomb, I feel it is safe to say It could have been used as an isolation tank.

Another interesting thing I want to point out is this.

Im sorry the picture isnt as clear as possible.

The red lines are attempting to represent the angles at which sound waves coming from the outside would be strongest.

the blue lines/areas represent areas or what I call "wells" that would have be used to dampen any incoming sound.

The yellow cross in the middle represents the entrance to the kings chamber, and due to the fact that it would be used frequently, I would consider it to be the "weakest link" on that side of the pyramid for blocking out sound.

With the green line I am attempting to show that due to the incline, the structure was intentionally designed to help keep sound waves from hitting the entrance, head on or at an angle that would be conductive to carrying it.

And lastly, with the 2 orange lines, I'm trying to point out a very extremely slim small part of the pyramid that IS NOT attempting to block "energy" from entering the chamber. I have read a few theories explaining the importance of this air shaft, in astrological and spiritual terms.

Also, we need take into the account that these 2 air shafts are NOT symmetrical, in the sense that they do not exit the pyramid at the same angle, which I believe had a purpose behind it.

Shafts from King's Chamber North South Mean
Angle of Slope, Petrie 31° 33' 45° 14' 38° 23'

Another thing I would like to point out about Egyptian culture is they did have access to this.
Nymphaea Caerulea or the Blue lotus.

This was a sacred plant to the Egyptians as it is an Entheogen and it played a big part in their society. The leaves were usually soaked within wine to release their potential. While the blue lotus plant is legal, I am not trying to promote experimentation with psychoactive plants. However, it has also been shown that traces of coc aine have been found in Egypt. So I believe it is safe to say that Ancient Egyptians understood the use of these plants which are commonly linked to ideas like shamanism and spiritualism.

In short, I'm proposing that the pyramids were also designed as isolation and flotation chambers in which the elite of that day could use emotional and spiritual experiences (both good and bad) to indoctrinate and raise their proteges. What do you think ATS?

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:47 PM
the pyramids could attract and conduct lightning and then it was stored there for the aliens to beam up and use for their mad ass video game - humanity
also they would cloud seed then when they had enough power it would shoot out of the top of the pyramid into some star gate in outer space then they would zoom off to play another level.

thats my theory

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:54 PM
long story short i think you're totally right. but it's not really a new theory. s+f

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:56 PM
reply to post by metalshredmetal

Like I said, I believe it is just one of many uses for the pyramids.

However, I havent come across the floation concept here at ATS so I thought I would bring it up!
Thanks for the input!

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:04 PM
in addition i might have missed it but the cap stones are suppose to be gold or some other precious material or something..... and is missing

it has been speculated by historians that it may have been used for cold fusion.... due to the under ground water ways beneath ...potentially for cooling..... we may never know

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:07 PM

Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by metalshredmetal

Like I said, I believe it is just one of many uses for the pyramids.

However, I havent come across the floation concept here at ATS so I thought I would bring it up!
Thanks for the input!

i can't recall where i head the idea of it being a flotation tank (i do have a bad memory), but i believe i've heard it before. or maybe i think i heard it before because it resonates my intuition, hah.

I think it would be veeerry symbolic if the initiate were to be in water whilst experiencing the sensory deprivation/meditation because the whole idea of the initiation was to symbolize death. the mystery school initiation was always centered upon the adept "dying" in his physical irrational form and then being rebirthed into his divine knowledgeable self. since everyone is born from their mother's water, water is always associated with birth and emotional things.

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:21 PM
reply to post by VonDoomen

Ifyou get a chance"altered states" with William Hurt was a pretty cool movie about sensory deprivation experiments for its time (the 70's)

edit on 31-1-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 12:15 AM
just realized that the sarcophagus functioning as a flotation chamber would also deprive you of your sense of gravity. even with no taste, sight, feeling, hearing, and smelling, your body is still able to sense the direction of gravity. it is likely that an out-of-body experience was a goal while meditating in the pyramid, and floating in the water would hinder your sense of gravity, and thus your sense of up and down and all that. these circumstances are probably best in order to become disoriented in the physical, in order to exit your body.

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 12:32 AM
reply to post by metalshredmetal

You are spot on with your thinking.

Losing the sense of gravity and a fundamentally powerful experience on the mind. In that day, and even still into our age, we still stand in awe of the idea, as we still do not fully comprehend it. I think the facts speak for themselves on this one.

on a side note, I find it interesting that skull and bones initiates go thru a similiar experience, having to lay in a coffin, however they do not float as far as i know. But still, the concept is eerily similiar.

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 01:34 AM

Originally posted by VonDoomen

The word ‘pyramid’ originates from the Greek words ‘pyra + mid’. ‘Pyra’ means ‘fire’ and ‘mid’ means ‘in the middle’. Thus, the literal meaning of pyramid would be – in the middle of fire (energy!).

I won't comment on the bulk of your OP but definitely see a need to correct you on the above interpretation regarding the origins of the word "pyramid". Hope this doesn't invalidate the remainder of your hypothesis as you've obviously put a lot of time and trouble into creating it.

The etymology of the word pyramid has primarily Latin and French roots ...

1550s (earlier in L. form piramis, late 14c.), from Fr. pyramide (O.Fr. piramide, 12c.), from L. pyramides, pl. of pyramis "one of the pyramids of Egypt," from Gk. pyramis (pl. pyramides), apparently an alteration of Egyptian pimar "pyramid." Related: Pyramidal.


Also, "mid" does not mean "middle" in Greek.
A more correct translation is ... mésos (Greek) = middle (English)

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posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 01:56 AM
Well thought out and an interesting theory. However, I believe that is a lot of work to do just to make a sensory deprivation chamber.

But who knows, the pyramid could have had 100s of uses.

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Topsy_Cret
Well thought out and an interesting theory. However, I believe that is a lot of work to do just to make a sensory deprivation chamber."
But who knows, the pyramid could have had 100s of uses.

it is probably true that the pyramids were used for many things, it does have many uses. however there's lots and lots of historical texts and religious documents that refer the pyramids as being an initiation place for apprentices in the Egyptian Mystery schools. Supposedly Plato himself was initiated in the pyramids, along with Pythagoras and many other important and scholarly figures of the "ancient world.

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 08:45 AM
just remembered something else, had to pull out my copy of "the secret teachings of all ages"

manly hall writes in the chapter entitled "the initiation of the pyramid" : " while his body lay in the coffer the soul of the neophyte soared as a human headed hawk through the celestial realms (out of body experience), there to discover first hand the eternity of life, light and truth, as well as the illusion of death, darkness, and sin (near-death experience/rebirth into divine self). Thus in one sense the great pyramid may be likened to a gate through which the ancient priests permitted a few to pass toward the attainment of individual completion. it is also to be noted incidentally that if the cofer in the king's chamber be struck, the sound emitted has no counterpart in any known musical scale. this tonal value may have formed part of that combination of circumstances which rendered the king's chamber an ideal setting for the conferment of the highest degree of mysteries.

so the dimensions and density and everything was taken into CAREFUL consideration when the coffer was made. It sounds to me like if it were filled with water, when it was "struck" then a sort of cymatic effect was made within the medium inside (most likely a water or mixture of water and something else). this leads me to believe that the certain vibration made by the coffer would aid in the meditation/initiation.

on another possibility, the phrase about the pyramid being a "gate" to the "celestial realms" made me think that perhaps the coffer was a full on star gate of some, "here, neophyte step into the water to be reborn" and BAM, you are somewhere else. maybe it was instant, maybe not. who knows. i think these added points make it even more interesting...

in addition, since the tone made by the coffer has no musical counterpart, this supports the old conspiracy about how the "modern" musical scale that we use has been modified from a more ancient, secret and powerful scale. scale is not the right word...more specifically what happened was at some point centuries ago (i believe it was those dang christians), the frequency of middle C was changed (more like what they called "middle C" was changed to a different frequency). apparently it was only changed by a few Hertz but the point is that supposedly the old pitch/scale was a divine sound, the word of god in music, capable of "awakening" or "enlightenment" if used correctly. then the christian church got all megalomaniac and changed the pitch/scale so as to hide their secrets like they always do..
edit on 2/1/11 by metalshredmetal because: music

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 10:45 AM
reply to post by tauristercus

Thank you for the clarification. And no it doent mess with my theory in anyway. I actually spotted that tidbit on a website, and thought I would add it for more info. At first the explanation sounded somewhat plausible but I should have double checked it! Thanks again!

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 11:15 AM
reply to post by metalshredmetal

Thanks for all the additional info! Obviously this monument would be linked to the most powerful people of the day, most of whom typically belong to "private or secret" groups with common goals. And I have also read a lot about the mystery schools as well, Im glad you can help corroborate.

The part about the new tone or sound was new to me. And lets not forget the peoples of south America also incorporated interesting acoustics into their pyramids as well.

And not surprisingly, there is a HUGE connection between sound and mental state. Check out bio-rhythms and Binaural Beats

Binaural beats or binaural tones are auditory processing artifacts, or apparent sounds, the perception of which arises in the brain for specific physical stimuli. This effect was discovered in 1839 by Heinrich Wilhelm Dove, and earned greater public awareness in the late 20th century based on claims that binaural beats could help induce relaxation, meditation, creativity and other desirable mental states. The effect on the brainwaves depends on the difference in frequencies of each tone, for example, if 300 Hz was played in one ear and 310 in the other, then the Binaural beat would have a frequency of 10 Hz. The brain produces a phenomenon resulting in low-frequency pulsations in the amplitude and sound localization of a perceived sound when two tones at slightly different frequencies are presented separately, one to each of a subject's ears, using stereo headphones. A beating tone will be perceived, as if the two tones mixed naturally, out of the brain. The frequency of the tones must be about 20 to 20,000 hertz for the beating to be heard. The difference between the two frequencies must be small (below about 30 Hz) for the effect to occur; otherwise, the two tones will be heard separately and no beat will be perceived. Binaural beats are of interest to neurophysiologists investigating the sense of hearing. Binaural beats reportedly influence the brain in more subtle ways through the entrainment of brainwaves and have been claimed to reduce anxiety and provide other health benefits such as control over pain.

Trent Reznor of NIne Inch Nails uses these Binaural beats in his music. Heres two examples by him. Starts around the :30 second mark for the first one.

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 11:22 AM
reply to post by VonDoomen

It is not necessarily that the grammatical explanation is not entirely possible... it is simply the description that isn't entirely specific.

As tauristericus pointed out, "pyramis" is greek for pyramid... and since "mesos" means "in the middle..." then it still stands that "-mis" could be the short form for "middle" in greek.

I don't expect that your point was to get into the etymology of the word anyhow. And as well, I notice that the etymology has very little to do with the possible use of the pyramid as you have pointed out - unless you intend to infer that being isolated is equal to being in the middle of a fire...

Which would totally suit the purposes of those who believe "to burn in hell" is actually to be eternally separated from God/Life.

Which might have been a purpose for the isolation of peoples... to make them suffer to the point that they fear no longer death so as not to fear the consequences of their completely physical and carnal outlook towards society - which in turn can make it easier to rule people because people are easily suaded by such things as exotic dances designed to distract from... whatever else.

Could it be that this is what happens in the background? Those people who seek the truth are isolated into submission?

Or is it that the isolated is designed to make people fear so badly isolation that they will do anything to not be isolated again... only enhancing their dire fate by causing them to act against God and in turn paving their way into Limbo?

I will say that I imagine that when someone was isolated during a lightning storm in that pyramid, it must have sounded like a god was speaking.

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 11:31 AM
reply to post by TarzanBeta

Well the connection I wanted to draw from the meaning I provided was-

There is a common mannerism- born of fire, created in fire, however you want to say it. It refers back to smelting ore and making things. But the most basic interpretation is creation, taking unrefined, unpure, destroying it, and then turning it into something better. That is the heros journey. That is the ego death reported in controlled and scientific psychedelic experiments. That is the initiate having a chance to progress in esoteric tradition and mystery schools. The skull and bones have the idea of order through chaos.

Throw into the mix how hot the desert and the sun is, and I would say it is in the middle of fire!

On your question about whether or no the isolation chamber was used to punish or persuade people? I highly doubt it, although it is possible to use it in that manner. But That would be like the US having only 1 jail cell right?
I feel the uniqueness of it and the pyramid itself, would be reserved for the elites

posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 11:38 AM
reply to post by VonDoomen

Just a thought, wouldn't we find evidence of any of your theory in the details records left in hieroglyphs by the Egyptians? You seem to have worked on this for a while, I'm just wondering if there's any historical context for this. Cold fusion? Water pumps? i'm sure we'd find evidence of this there. This isn't to say it's wrong, we found what has been dubbed the "bagdad battery" that could be used as a source of electricity much like a coppertop battery today (well, exactly like that actually) but was probably used for gold plating.

Just because these suckers were hard to build doesn't mean they must have some as of yet undiscovered purpose. The Egyptians told us their purpose. The burial plot of their kings and queens. We can actually measure the progress of their building ability by investigating the less know pyramids. Most people think of the big 3, but there are plenty, a nice historical record of them learning to build them, then making them bigger and bigger. You've got to remember you have a ruler who essentially to them is a god, with an entire race of people as their slaves, so just cause it was tough doesn't mean it's anything more than a tomb.

Kewl theory about sensory deprivation, this I can totally see, but cold fusion generator nah I'm gonna pass on that.

Well done regardless S&F

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posted on Feb, 1 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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I didn't mean it wouldn't be used for the elites.... if you convince the elites, then the common generally follow suit.

But beside that point, interesting. The hero's challenge.

Well, the spiritual does sure have a way of physically manifesting.

And another use of the pyramid could be that they needed to add so much weight to that particular side of egypt to balance it. Maybe one side was too light and it was "tilting"... or some might indicate this possibility as derived from the reactions in other threads.

The above is humor.

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