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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:14 AM
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as, above

i mean not all people serving time are guilty i am sure ,but what about people that have little time left or , just so happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time ?, i mean do they have plans for what happens to who are locked up ? , is their an evacuation protocol,? i might be wrong about this so please correct me ,but has their ever been mention of what happend to the Inmates at the county jail who were still locked up ?

this has been a thought of mine for a while now ,ever since i started to study the whole 2012 thing , i mean every times i hear about someone getting locked up for a long while i always wonder if that person knows about 2012 and the possibility of something happening not saying it will ,but ..

well anymore thoughts or info on this would be great ,

P.s a word to the wise , try and stay out of jail ! you never know ,would a guard take the time to save your life ? i think not




posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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I heard a rumor a while ago that during the Katrina disaster inmates were shot execution style in the head. I think it came from a U.S. representative. I think this would happen but I couldn't tell you for sure. I'll have to see if I can and a guideline or protocol on the internet that talks about this.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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They wouldnt take the time of day to help, Ive seen them shark attack con's who dint do anything that bad but just refuse to listen to them. but hopefully the doors get unlocked and they could get out, but they will harm people on the way out, like the costodials and deputy's. Maybe?
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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Just look at Egypt right now, they are running free.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:27 AM
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Well if the current situation in Egypt is anything to go by, I read just this morning that prisoners in some jails were escaping.....
But then this was during the period when the police and military weren't around apparently....others had help...there were riots etc....

homedailynews.com...
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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Take a look at what just went down in Egypt,the guards all buggered off and the crims just left,.There are people in jail right now who are praying for an earthquake ,social collapse,asteroid ,etc.When your in side,one thing you have plenty of ,is time.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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In america there are more prisioners in jail right now than ever before, this is no "coincidence."
"They" are putting average joe blow in prison for petty crimes and he comes out a hardened criminal. When the shtf and "They" pull the plug on America, "They" will let out all these violent, hardened criminals to kill you. This is all part of the great culling plan.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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They'll get out. They'll have time to escape, then they'll let their buddies out etc.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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In the sense and spirit when the shtf..... In my recollection it is the guards sworn duty to protect the lives of his inmates... Depending in how deep it is, is the measures of protocol. If they have a fire then prisoners get taken to a safe location out of the building but it'll be secured via perimeter fence but and all out attack....IDK? you would figure a gov't overthrow would mean that the people to whom are serving time would be absolved of their time because their contract with the old gov't would be absolved. but who would be ballsy enough to let out prisoners even in the event of collapse????? Its kinda like having a tiger in a cage and you are no longer going to take care of it by feeding it and cleaning up after it and are ordered to release it immediatly. You can't take it anywhere to release it....you have to do it right then and there. Would you be that guy that sets the tiger loose in your proximity? I am not saying that the people in prison are vicious and want to kill everything but you are the guard and you have been dictating to the people in ways that make them seem infantile and cannot make their own mind up. I'd hate to be the guard but love to feel the freedom of a prisoner!!!!!!! Btw how do you think our fore fathers felt when they broke away from the monarchy? Freedom edure forte



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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That is something I have been wondering about as well. Not to mention all of the people in hospitals, nursing homes and mental health facilities. What would be worse is if there simply isn't any plan other than to evacuate, leaving everyone stuck in these places to fend for themselves. If things get bad enough,it could happen I guess.

Even with a proper plan in place,there's no guarantees that people could be relied upon to carry it out if things were to get bad enough. Eventually,it becomes 'every man for himself'.

Anyway, I'm sure they have kind of protocols in place for these situations. What those might be however one can only speculate until the moment of truth arrives.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by JayTee
I heard a rumor a while ago that during the Katrina disaster inmates were shot execution style in the head. I think it came from a U.S. representative. I think this would happen but I couldn't tell you for sure. I'll have to see if I can and a guideline or protocol on the internet that talks about this.


Shortly after I moved to Louisiana, I got a few roommates. One of my roommates used to work for the local Sheriff's office. He told me this story and also told me that the bodies were thrown into some swamp land some place. Through him I got to meet several of the Sheriff's in my area... so far, every single Sheriff that was serving at that time, has confirmed this story to me.

At the end of the day though... it is just hear say. There is no way to truly prove if it did or did not happen. However, it is tough to imagine why so many local Sheriff's would confirm this story to me. I can not think of any reason why they would lie, and we not talking about just one or two. I have confirmed it by no less that 9 individuals so far. So why would 9 people lie? Not having any idea what others may have told me? Why lie? I personally believe it did happen.

As far as the actual OP..... Let Egypt be your guide. Right now that are having a SHTF type of scenario. Riots in the street, looting, an attempting over throw of the Government, Military in the streets and police no where to be found. In my opinion that is a SHTF type of scenario just like Katrina was. So I would think that what would happen to inmates would be dictated by what type of SHTF scenario we are looking at. If it is a situation like Katrina where everyone has to look out for themselves in order to survive, they will probably be killed. They are dead weight. They are inmates and as such, you really wouldnt expect them to help you out or do much of anything but what is in that inmates best interest.

As in Egypt, things are falling apart but the threat to individual life is not as great as Katrina. No one is dying in the streets because they have no food and water. So guards just stop coming to work, they have more important things to do and baby sitting an inmate is not that high on the priority list. With riots ongoing and police being a target, why would you go to work at a prison? It sure seems like an obvious target. So they don't come to work, no one is there to babysit the inmates, and they now have time and more than ample opportunity to plan and execute and escape.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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Shortly after I moved to Louisiana, I got a few roommates. One of my roommates used to work for the local Sheriff's office. He told me this story and also told me that the bodies were thrown into some swamp land some place. Through him I got to meet several of the Sheriff's in my area... so far, every single Sheriff that was serving at that time, has confirmed this story to me.


Sounds like they were trying to scare you from going to jail/prison.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:48 AM
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Some prisoners are no hardened criminals, rapists or killers. Some are in for tax reasons, fraud and other non-violent crimes. If the SHTF, I feel that all people should be allowed to die with their loved ones.
I have watched people die, heard people crying for their mothers or wives/girlfriends, while they lie bleeding and broken. They died without ever seeing them again.
I never want to see it again.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:48 AM
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What happens to them?
It would depend on whether you were the big guy or the little guy in the cell....LOL

My information and experience is from being on both sides of the bars so to speak.

I have built a few jails (I was a mason and laid the blocks for 3 correctional facilities) and I have been locked in a couple.

Jails are meant to keep people locked inside -WITH CONSTANT SUPERVISION - !

Given that you had some time and nobody was watching you or cared it wouldn't be hard to break out of a jail,



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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Who cares !! Dont do the crime if ya dont wanna do the time !!



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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As Haiti is trying to deal with the aftermath of a deadly earthquake, security is becoming an increasing concern. Tuesday's earthquake damaged the main prison situated in Port-au-Prince, allowing close to a thousand inmates to escape. The head of Haitian national police says he is concerned because some of the escaped prisoners are hard-core criminals that have been serving long sentences.

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Haiti Prisoners: A Thousand Inmates On The Run After Earthquake | NowPublic News Coverage www.nowpublic.com...



After one year;


January 12, 2010, Port-au-Prince, HaitiThe prisoners call it the Titanic, and its brutal architecture is straight out of a Mad Max film. The notorious main block of the Prison Civile de Port-au-Prince, Haiti’s national jail, is a three-storey cube of soiled concrete, its barred windows screened by gigantic rusting hoods, like the exhaust vents of some monstrous machine. Prisoners who manage to fight their way past 300 cellmates to catch a breath of air at the window cannot see the deep blue Caribbean sky above


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 03:41 AM
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what about people who are innocent ? what crime ? and serving time ?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:20 AM
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you gotta realize that most of the prisoners have people who do love them and care about them on the outside. they wouldn't just let their spouse or family rot in a cell. also as some h as said, if the guards arent there the prisoners could break out...at least in some jails. but probably not the 2 that i've been to



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:37 AM
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There are documentaries/tv episodes about this happening during hurricane katrina, I'll post them if I can remember to, but they should be pretty easy to find on your own



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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It depends on the severity of the situation. When I was a C/O , the jail caught fire in the laundry room on my day off and I was called on my cell to report in. All County Officers as well as the Officers in the city that the jail resided in were also called in. Many Officers in the 5 surronding towns volunteered to come in and when I arrived on scene there were busloads of inmates already being transported to the jails in the surrounding counties.

This jail contained approx 1800 Inmates , all inmates were evacuated without injury... the only injuries were to officers from smoke inhalation during searches and to fireman from heat exhaustion (It was July , jail doesn't have AC)

Now this wasn't a TEOTWAKI situation , but If you were in the jail , I promise you it was a SHTF scenario.

During that massive blackout we had in the northeast , the same thing happened although it only involved the county officers and the officers on duty in the city. I had the pleasure of being on duty that day and I was on my post when it happened. lights flickered , then finally went out ... Pitch Black! , (Genni Failed) That was a personal SHTF scenario for me because I was in the middle of a movement , with a Sgt , another officer , 1 K9 and 65 inmates.

Luckily ,everyone remained cool , but I would not want to be in those circumstances again!

Most people don't understand that when you are assigned to a housing area , YOU are responsible for the care and wellbeing of those inmates. If a guy gets sick and tells you and you don't run him to medical and something happens to him , it's gonna be in the paper and you're done!

If a guy decides to kill himself and you weren't making your rounds as you should , when you're in IAB and they're playing the camera recording in front of you of you being negligent , just go ahead and give em your badge, you're done.

I saw a guy forced to resign (after a string of violations) when a diabetic inmate went into shock and was almost killed because the C/O decided it was more important to text his girl , than to feed the inmate his proper tray.

Many of these guys are Lawyered up really good , (especially if they were from the fed dorms) so they knew their rights & inmates that weren't lawyered up had their mothers calling on a daily basis.

In closing , this premise of mass desolations & executions are pretty much fear mongering ,or people that are ignorant of how jails function or stories from a guy that knows a guy that has a brother that said etc....

In the end , just stay out of jail and you should have no worries.

I just did my job , was firm but fair and just did my 8 hours. Their punishment was being in jail , no need to power trip





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