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How to fight the NWO, Illuminati, TPTB etc...and WIN!

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:31 PM
Of recent I have noticed various posts on the rebellion that is happening against the governments of repressed peoples. I almost see a 'call to arms' and - “get ready to fight” mentality erupting. These issues need to be addressed – but not in a physical and violent way.

It is my belief that this saber rattling needs to be refocused into a different intent and energy, which is why I am writing this article. With the strangeness that encompasses the globe currently, I feel compelled to write how to deter not only the coming conflicts from erupting into violence, but on how to actually confront the very powers that are 'enslaving' humanity – and even to become victorious over them.

First – let me state that I have never been in a war, but I know several people that have. War changes people – period. There can be great change created out of the acts of war, yes – but in the 21st century, do we really need to use the tactics of war to achieve our goals? No.

Ask yourself, what would work better: getting weapons and trying to find those responsible for humanities current plight, or cutting off the cause of humanities plight by way of boycotting it?

What fuel would TPTB have if there was no economy backing them?

There are over 300 million people in the United States of America. How could TPTB force 300 million people to do their bidding? Would they threaten to nuke us if we stopped compliance to their system?
No. The people sitting behind the 'red' button are people like you and I, they have families and friends.

If people are serious about revolution – they need not pick up weapons, they need to inform others to buy food and survival supplies. For those that do select the violent way – I can assure them that the hand of TPTB will be swift and destructive, and give them cause to go after the rest of the citizenry without relent.

Those that poke at the hive will get stung – as will the innocents.

The best measure to battle the corrupt machine is to buy several months (or even a year) supply of food, and to not feed the system. If everyone in the USA didn't show up for work, what could 'they' do about it?
If people stopped using money (which caused this mess in the first place), what could they do about it?

The direct result of removing what they need would also result in their removal.

Does a Democracy need capitalism to survive? No.

I think that if something so profound wakes the American people up enough to do something like what I have outlined – our government structure should remain in place (with the removal of all current officials) and that any form of monetary system should be abolished.

Why abolish money?
Because it is only meaningful to those who have abundance of it. Because it caused all of the problems on our planet. Because the greed of the people who put us in this situation will return.

I am not for Communism, Marxism or Socialism – I am sure there are educated economists that would be able to form some kind of “worth” without basing humanities off of a rare yellow sparkly rock.

If a 'revolution' is to take place – and it is a violent one, it will be self defeating; we will all suffer.

These strange times affect everyone – Republicans, Democrats, Independents etc. There are no party lines – but rather a common goal for the betterment of our hijacked society.

BTW – on a personal note, I am just a regular guy who works and am not a revolutionary. I have a family that I love and care about, which is another reason I wrote this.

The only way to win a 'war' is to use the weapons of the enemy against them. The weapons being used against us: Money.

*MOD* I wasn't sure this was the right forum to put this in - but this does deal with the removal of TPTB - whatever they are... NWO, Illuminati.... if this thread belogs elsewhere, please feel free to move it!

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:44 PM
I agree. I do not think most people really realize how fragile TPTB world really is. They keep it all held together by a small string just on the verge of of snapping. I do agree that if people resisted the form of fear that they have put upon us such as getting fired, breaking a law, or even in this politically correct world of being chastised as a dissident. I also believe that the majority of people do want to do something but they just do not know what to do, and in some cases I agree, but at the same time sitting around not doing anything is just as bad. Heck, I am of the opinion to at least start shaking their tree and see what falls out and go from there, make them scramble around, move them to our pulse instead of theirs, send them some confusion and then we can truly see what needs to be done.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:53 PM
reply to post by Skewed

Thanks! The thing about the tactic that I wrote about can not only be applied to the USA - but the rest of the world can use it also.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:56 PM
We enslave ourselves. We trade our own lives for pieces of paper with different pictures on it, even knowing that it has no value.

Excellent Thread. If, we the people would “barter” our service and talents, tomorrow we would wake up in a different world.

I would like to add another tactic to help us shed our bonds.
We need to stop calling the enslavers of this world the phase “the powers that be“, and begin to refer to this group as

This is some-what a metaphysical thing , but we do empower THEM when we use TPTB.
Using the TPTW term, we are speaking into existence that “THEY” are no longer relevant. Taking the power back to ourselves.
“Free your mind and your ass will follow”

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 04:57 PM
reply to post by kroms33

great idea; starve the beast and let it die because we refuse to play their games anymore.

I'm as scared of violent revolution as the next guy. We may have plenty of guns on our side but TPTB have bombs, jets, tanks and missiles to throw back against us if we were to try anything and I wouldn't count on the military balking at attacking civilians. If TPTB properly vilifies the civilians in the military's minds, they will think its their patriotic duty to slaughter their fellow Americans just like the think its patriotic to enslave countries half way across the world because we labeled the freedom fighters as "terrorists".

Sure, capitalism sucks and should be abolished; it is just another path on the road to the eventual enslavement of mankind. It just gives the illusion of freedom by offering the hope to break out of the slave class into the ownership class. Capitalism and Communism/Socialism are just two different paths leading to the same destination, just like our political parties. They offer the illusion of choice but, in reality, one is just a more direct and faster route to our enslavement while the other gives us time to adjust while leading us to the exact same destination.

If you want to know about an alternative to Capitalism and Communism, I suggest you take a look at Distributism for an economic model that looks at people as if they really matter and seeks to make every man self-sufficient instead of being dependent on our "betters" to look after us.

edit on 1/30/11 by FortAnthem because: Fix link. :bnghd:

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 05:05 PM
reply to post by kroms33

I guess I agree with you but how do you get even half of the American people 150 million people to go along with this plan??

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 05:08 PM
I echo your sentiments , violence is not the way and would in fact be playing into TPTB s hands , this would give them an excuse a rationale for taking action to quell the rebellion , noone wants martial law and I believe this would be the outcome if we used violence .
In summary the peoples biggest asset or weapon is sheer numbers , TPTB have always known this and have constantly implented undetectable ways of dividing and conquering us
GREAT thread op f n s to you!

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 05:09 PM
Thanks everyone for such great comments and suggestions. I do worry about our future - because there is a line being drawn... We need to make sure that crossing the line doesn't lead to our eventual destruction.

My only hope is that my message is listened to by the people who want to initiate "change".

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 05:22 PM

Originally posted by American-philosopher
reply to post by kroms33

I guess I agree with you but how do you get even half of the American people 150 million people to go along with this plan??

I am not planing anything - just informing the people of the best tactic to use if we ever revolted.

I think tha slowly people are waking up from their deep slumber... Lack of jobs, money, health care, lack of representation - you name it.

It is going to snowball eventually... Small groups will spark larger groups of people to open their eyes. It is happening...

As to when to do this - like I said in my post, I am not a revolutionary - just a father and husband. It is up to the American public when to revolt against it's oppressors.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 06:07 PM
It is true that it is impossible to make this change overnight.

This is not a reason to do nothing. A journey begins with one step. So logically the question becomes
“What Can I Do ?”

First: Think Globally, Act Locally.

1.Become a member of a Local Credit Union. Remember the lessons of “It’s a Wonderful Life”, “your money is not here it is in bob’s house“ and so on. It is insane for a person who has savings to be invested with some NYC firm who then in turn loans that same money back to the businessman or homeowner across the street. Cut out the Middle Man and use a LOCAL credit Union so that you have a Vote in where that money is used. Keep it Local. Invest in your own Community.

2. Stop patronizing Corporate Restaurants, and start finding LOCAL family run establishments. Support your neighbors with your business. The local restaurant buys their supplies locally, supporting even more local businessmen. The Corporate Restaurant is nothing more than a frozen dinner shipped in by truck.

3. STOP SHOPPING AT WALMART !!!! Sure it is going to be difficult to find what you require at your home Locally today, because Wal-Mart has killed off most of the small businesses. You can start by finding some of the items elsewhere. He Who Seeks Finds.

4. Start Bartering within your Community. Trade your skill (we all have one) with another. A Bartering Bulletin Board at the local grocery store is a way to network. Also, the Community Paper could also be an avenue to network.

4. Start supporting the LOCAL Farmer by going to the Farmer’s Market to obtain your produce. Sure this is seasonal, but when the local farmer sees that the demand is up, he will find a way to meet it.

You can see where I am going with this VOTE with your dollar, its is the only vote that really matters.
Spend and Save Your money LOCALLY, it is how you strengthen Your Community.

You may have your own ideas in how we can take that first step in removing the corporate bonds in our lives.

Please Share.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 06:52 PM
what you ask is in short and sweet way of putting it, again in caps so you can see not yelling.

Do all of this in one day, everyone. and you would have a new world order.
The air would be clear price of gas oil power would tumble the currencies would rise.

Sad to say this is just wishful thinking not all of the world would just STOP for one day 24 hours, people would die, starve,get sick, be unemployed, and be in a world of hurt the next.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:09 PM
reply to post by bekod

I think you missed the point a bit. I am not suggesting the whole world go out and do this - nor am I telling people to do this. What I am stating that instead of taking up arms and blowing things up - people use the system against the system.

Also, the chaos that you describe is already gripping the world. Billions are starving.
How many people do you know that have been affected by what is going on - job losses, economic decay, sky rocketing taxes, food prices etc.

Where are you living that you do not see these things?

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:43 PM
You are very close to a tangible approach to the problem and I agree with much of what you have said.

The rioting will be in vain of this I am absolutely sure. This is not times of revolutionary war where the red-coats and militia patriots were on a similar technological playing field.

Today is a much much different scenario and numbers mean absolutely nothing. With technology such as HAARP and conventional bombs that rival small nuclear bombs force is not a game the masses want to get involved in. So I agree that the only logical approach to dealing with those who have enslaved us is to refuse the system and regain our Independence. Stop feeding their machine, stop working their jobs and pushing their agendas. I highly doubt bankers know how to operate HAARP, they need US to destroy US.

Unfortunately people have a history of being more then willing to destroy each other over the simple divisions they spread around us.

For once humanity needs to stop acting so damn predictable...TPTB rely on all of us doing as we have always done and are/would be expected to do which is get pissed off and riot destroying ourselves in the process.

If everyone took care of their basic needs for themselves there would be no reliance on the bankers and their monetary illusions. We need to get over ourselves and simplify our lives to accomplish this. The luxurious world we live in currently is an unsustainable nightmare that relies on the taking from others.

If you cannot provide for yourself you do not deserve to be provided for by anyone or anything. If we truly want a sustainable world of freedom we need to rely on ourselves for our needs.

The second we rely on others or create institutions and governments to provide for us we have created a corruptible system that is imbalanced. The system will have leverage over its people and will lead us to the world we are living in currently...

all the governments the world has ever seen have one fatal flaw that always leads to the suppression and enslavement of their people. ALL of them have a POWER structure...the power structure is what opens the door for corruption and abuse. We need to abolish age old concepts of Control, Authority, and Power...they have no place in a free world and are in contradiction with equality, freedom, and liberty.

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:01 PM
Not to put words into any ones mouth, but I get the impression that most of our complaints stem from the greed, which then leads us to the banks. One idea that I have and actually one that I have implemented, is to close my accounts with a major bank and opened my checking/savings account with a smaller local bank that DID NOT take a bailout, its public record and easy to find out which banks took them. While some of us may also have mortgages with these banks, there is not much we can do about that individually, myself included. But what I can and did do is to close my close my checking and savings, and to me that is at least doing something. But my mortgage account will eventually work itself out, one way or another. I may not get the same "benefits" that the big bank offers, but I know I have done a small part to take a few bucks out of their coffers, but I am only one person and my measly few dollars in itself does not make much difference on a large scale, but it makes me feel better.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:03 PM
reply to post by Sly1one

I mostly agree with everything you have stated, my only problem is if we do not help our fellow man/woman/child who has not opened their eyes to the tragic circumstances around them - would this not create resentment? If I have food and a child is starving – I will give that child my food.
If I have no food to share – than I will comfort that child and try my best to find food.

The way to remove the greed of the institutions that provide for people is to remove the monetary system. With the removal of money, we must acquire some understanding of a new economics which is not based on material wealth. I do believe not only would most crime drop, but I also believe that without money humanity would strive towards greatness.

By removing money from the hands of the politicians insures that corruption can not take place in the form of material wealth... so thus the concepts of Control, Authority, and Power would be in the hands of the people.

We have to understand that there needs to be completely new thinking – we must destroy the old monetary beliefs that have enslaved us all.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:07 PM
reply to post by Skewed

I do think these are the first steps that need to be taken. I only wish I had all of the answers that could be implemented to fix the unfortunate situation we are all in.

80% of the USA has no clue about what is taking place, or what is about to. My fear is they will soon find out and want to join the 'revolution band wagon' by taking up arms and attacking the police and troops.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 10:37 PM
reply to post by kroms33

I'm with you on abolishing money.

I think Democracy has to go as well - it never worked, it was just an illusion.

Perhaps a true Democracy where every decision was put to the public vote (which is easily doable with computer tech and the internet). In a world where everyone has great health and education I could see this working.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 10:56 PM
reply to post by Cecilofs

I think that the only way it would work is with a true democracy instead of a representative one. Who represents us? The people in office represent the power elite and their corporations.

Many people get the feeling these are the end times - my belief is that it doesn't have to be. It can be a new begining for humanity... we can finally be in charge of our own destiny. Drug companies wouldn't be making trillions because we would take care of our people - progress would be made instead of stifled.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:07 PM
Okay, I get where you are coming from with the hating the system and the fiat currency that we call the dollar. Yes the big banks are corrupt, and this corruption is responsible for most of the failed politics that have landed the US in our current predicament.

I would just like to point out though, that we don't really live in a capitalist society anymore. It's more of a corporatist society. We citizens sit back while money buys loopholes meant to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Don't get me wrong. Although it gets labeled class warfare, it's just the rich seizing opportunities with what they have, money, and access to money.

Over time though, each of those loopholes is like adding a straw to the camel's back(the camel represents the middle class). Each straw is the burden of debt that gets shifted from private banks, to the taxpayers of today and of the future. Still you would think that this is class warfare, but you would be wrong.

We blame the politicians for the situation we're in, but once again the blame is misdirected. Heh, what do I mean it's not their fault? Well, as citizens, our only role in government is to keep those who run the government in line. Politicians from the beginning of time have let greed sway their votes and determine their political views. We continue to trust our government even as they make backdoor deals, pass bills they haven't read, and posture one way then vote the other. They (politicians) are the scorpions and we are the frogs. We allow them to keep the status quo, and they keep making private deals that we citizens won't even find out about for months after passage. Even after reading about some of the scary legislation that strip us of our rights, we get up the next day and go to work like it never even happened. Because, what can we do? Really? I mean, seriously. What can we really do?

We can vote, but politicians rarely run on their records because their records are shameful and confusing. For every informed citizen voting, there are 60 who think they are but are not, and 30 that understand that they are not informed and don't care to be informed, but see politics as a reality show.

Our citizens, must wake up and get informed. We must impose more rules on government, not the other way around. We need a new branch in the government to protect the people from government. We need a non-partisan prosecutor to investigate and prosecute fraud and abuse in government We should never again let a bill get passed without being read aloud on the floors of the House and Senate and or posted online and broadcast on TV.

We as citizens have lot's to do if we are ever going to get our country back on the right track. But we must exorcise care(unlike the elect who sacrifice care) in how we go about it. Peaceful protests, volunteer watchdogs, citizen reporters and whistle-blowers. Town halls, involvement in local elections, donations to watchdog organizations, and charity. Just remember... PEACE AND PATIENCE!
Liberty is the natural order of humanity, and is sought by all. Like water seeks the lowest point... Humanity seeks Liberty such that Liberty will/must be it's eventual destination.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:19 PM

If people are serious about revolution – they need not pick up weapons, they need to inform others to buy food and survival supplies. For those that do select the violent way – I can assure them that the hand of TPTB will be swift and destructive, and give them cause to go after the rest of the citizenry without relent.

Thats what i have been saying, we do not need to pick up weapons, we do not need money, we do not need to do their odd jobs. Making a big human community, where every one supports each other is the best way to fight the system i.e. to fight the system do not become part of the system.

Wave Of Protests....Will They Would Get What They Want.,

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