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What is this in the sky? Please help explain this to me

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
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Can you confirm the exact date of CarneyArt's video?

Clearly they're not filming on the date you believe it to be, otherwise Antares and Venus should be visible either side of the moon.

If you go forward 1 day...look what happens:







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He is saying it's Sunday morning so, today. He put his videos up today too. I am a subscriber so I know when new videos get posted.

He may be wrong with his opinions but I am almost positive, he's not a liar or hoaxer.




posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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Facts don't lie.

I even used the sky map you used.

Time to unsubscribe methinks!



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:44 PM
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I won't pretend to know what it is, or isnt..
I'm not sure yet...

But I will say with absolute certainty that it is not Saturn.

Saturn appears as a *tiny* orange "star" in the sky..
It does not look anything like Jupiter or Venus does when they are "overhead".
It is far smaller in appearence..
and it does not "stand out" unless you know where and what to look for.
and it certainly would not pick up soo well on camera like this.

Most people could/would/do confuse it with any other star.

It's not Saturn.

But,
Going by what I usually see of youtubers, and forum posters..
who have absolutely no idea what they are looking at in the sky..

I'll feel ok saying it is probably something 'normal'. lol

If his vids werent soo crappy, we might be able to tell.

I mean, the "Moon" looks reddish/purple in his vids..




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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Human_Alien
 


Facts don't lie.

I even used the sky map you used.

Time to unsubscribe methinks!


What are you talking about? You actually substantiated his claim. It was ME, not him, that was off one day which.....made the difference.
You set the chart one day ahead from where I set it and .....it matches. So what's the big deal (other than him not realizing it was Venus)?

Now for the other object, I am leaning towards that being Saturn.

I don't know. The skies just look a bit strange lately. Maybe I have never noticed or studied the stars/planets as much but things (planets/stars) look extremely large and exceptionally bright lately.

Good job Chad. You cracked the case only you don't even realize what you just proved. I love it!



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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But I saw it too. Only it was Saturday morning. This video was THIS morning.

What I saw was an object, on the eastern horizon....little south (where the Sun would rise) and it looked like a planet. Or star. But I dismissed it as a pre-sunrise sun dog (yeah, I probably just made up that phenomena)

I was waiting for the Sun to come up so I know where I was looking and I will assume, Carneyart was looking in the same area in the sky as I.
Only he's 1000 miles north of me (not that that should make a tremendous difference)

Why don't you think it's Saturn? The size? To me it looked as large as Venus did only it wasn't bright. It was reddish.

I don't know. I still side with Saturn at the moment which......is subject to change with the next post



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by Ahmose
 


But I saw it too. Only it was Saturday morning. This video was THIS morning.

What I saw was an object, on the eastern horizon....little south (where the Sun would rise) and it looked like a planet. Or star. But I dismissed it as a pre-sunrise sun dog (yeah, I probably just made up that phenomena)

I was waiting for the Sun to come up so I know where I was looking and I will assume, Carneyart was looking in the same area in the sky as I.
Only he's 1000 miles north of me (not that that should make a tremendous difference)

Why don't you think it's Saturn? The size? To me it looked as large as Venus did only it wasn't bright. It was reddish.

I don't know. I still side with Saturn at the moment which......is subject to change with the next post


First~
Yes, because of it's (apparent) size..
Saturn does not "shine" like Venus/Jupiter.

If you dont know where to look..
You won't see it. (Saturn)

It will *Not* look like Venus. Not in size, brightness, color, or anything else.

I admit, I am no "professional",
But I do work at an observatory, and I do know what Saturn looks like.

Second~
Saturn is "long gone" by the time the Sun rises (at least currently).

This should be enough to show you that Saturn would not even be "in the picture" during these times.
(right before sun rise).

These are the known bodies circling earth at said time(s).
And rising with the sun.

This is shortly before sun rise..

(above the "E" (east), is above the horizon..
Below it, is what you cannot see, (because earth is in the way)
I have simply turned the "ground" off for this image~
Sol is below the horizon..
on it's way up..

Saturn was out of the way at least an hour before this,
probably more like 2 hours..
But if you really want to get precise..
We can probably do that to. lol

Take your pick..








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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Human_Alien, are you familiar with the planetarium software Stellarium?

Its a great tool for any sky watcher, amateur astronomer and UFO buff alike.

Best of all its a free download.

Stellarium Download



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Thank you for that wonderful presentation (want to team up?
)

What I saw (this red body) was around 5:30AM yesterday morning.
Venus and the Moon were directly over me (180 degree) which I believe was around 5 o'clock or so.
So it was shortly after that that I set my eyes on the horizon and saw this red-object.
Say..... I drank two cups of coffee. Wonder if we can gauge the time based on that?

So if the Sun rose around 7AM (roughly) why couldn't I have seen Saturn? It was still dark. Dawn wasn't even on the horizon when I spotted this.

I am losing the logic you're trying to impart.
Sorry my friend.
Can you talk a little slower please
and re-explain this again?

What program did you use, Stellarium? That was great!



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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I wish I could understand you...

I guess my mere human genes are no match for your half alien/star child genes.

Do you even know what you're saying?



Why I am calling this video to ATS attention is.....I got up Friday morning, very early, around 5AM




But I saw it too. Only it was Saturday morning.


What day did you see it?

And what is IT that you are talking about now?

The object above the moon or the red object??



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Human_Alien
 


I wish I could understand you...

I guess my mere human genes are no match for your half alien/star child genes.

Do you even know what you're saying?



Why I am calling this video to ATS attention is.....I got up Friday morning, very early, around 5AM




But I saw it too. Only it was Saturday morning.


What day did you see it?

And what is IT that you are talking about now?

The object above the moon or the red object??




You're right. I am getting confused because of the earliness. It was Friday morning for me. 5AM Friday morning.

Carneyart was Sunday morning. Today.

I threw in Saturday and that totally got me confused. Sorry.

We were talking about both objects. But because I THOUGHT Carneyarts sighting of the Moon was Saturday (not Sunday) I wasn't understanding the vast difference in the position of Venus.
That case is closed. Only carneyart doesn't think it was Venus for some reason and to his defense, a little, it really caught my attention too because it was SO bright overhead.

Now...moving on to the red-object. The red object for me was also Friday morning. Around 5:30AM

Carneyart's red-object was today, Sunday, around 4:30-5:30AM


I think I thought that was resolved too being Saturn, but a poster above is saying it couldn't have been.

This 'red' object (for me) was NOT bright at all. It was in the eastern sky, a little south and it was on the horizon before the Sun rose. I chalked it off to an anomaly I wasn't used to seeing so, I would go indoors for a while then go back out. I wasn't affixed to it but it DID rise. I did NOT watch it the entire time. I went back out at the break of dawn and this thing was gone and the Sun rose.

The end (sorry for the confusion. Being up that early is like losing an entire day for me)
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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Ok, thanks for the clarification.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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This looks very similar to the two suns being reported in China today take a look.
______beforeitsnews/story/384/887/Two_Suns_Photographed_In_Sky_Over_China.html



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by Ahmose
I won't pretend to know what it is, or isnt.....
I'm not sure yet...

But I will say with absolute certainty that it is not Saturn.


It's not Saturn.



Uhhhh....err.....well....?



sorry, I could not resist...



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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And thanks for the link



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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Human Alien~
Here is a short youtube video i just ul'd..
I felt it faster than screenshots of images. lol

I believe you said you were in Michigan?
(if not, my apologies)

But anyway,
I set the location to bay city michigan..
Should be close enough.,



I believe you may have been looking at Arcturus.

It's magnitude (brightness) is more than Saturn's..
I can go back and pull up the magnitudes of all the main, surrounding stars, if you really want..

But I believe you know what star Sirius is?
How about Vega? Arcturus?
All are brighter /more visible than Saturn.

Arcturus is the Orange one of the bunch though..
Saturn and Arcturus being just about the same color in the night sky.
Arcturus appearing much more "brilliant" and noticeable. .

Now that I have changed locations to Michigan, (In Stellarium)
I see that Saturn is also in the sky, a bit ahead of the other bodies we've mentioned..
But still visible.
So of course we can;t rule that out 100%..

However..
i have *never* looked at Saturn.. and had it appear the way Venus does (especially not in "size".) as you stated.
Therefore.. Im having a hard time accepting that what you guys were looking at was Saturn. lol

Perhaps you guys DID see wormwood? lol! I don;t know..
But I am not one to rule out the possibility.

I to, am a follower/student, of ancient texts..
and I believe they did know what they were talking about...
and I am also quite sure there are 12 planets in "our" system..
Just don't expect many other people to tell you/admit that.

( I do not base this on the work of Stitchin),
Though I dont totally discount him either, like many others.)

Personally..
From all Ive gathered over the years..
I do think a "new", large body will "come into view" in our skies..
Causing all kinds of crazy things to happen..

A Planet? I don't know...
An Asteroid? I dunno that either.. lol

But I believe that whatever it is.. will be "planet sized".

"crazy" right? lol

We'll see.

So I won't be the one to tell you your nuts for thinking you might have seen some extraordinary..
or anyone else who claims to have "sighted nibiru", or "wormwood", or whatever else.

I believe the possibility exists..
I feel it is probable even.. at some point..
when? I dunno..
But I think I will witness it....... lol


Yes, I used stellarium.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by exdog5

Originally posted by Ahmose
I won't pretend to know what it is, or isnt.....
I'm not sure yet...

But I will say with absolute certainty that it is not Saturn.


It's not Saturn.



Uhhhh....err.....well....?



sorry, I could not resist...



hahaha!
Touche.
Nice catch.


So, what can I say? I am an ass!

my post above explains more why I think it's not Saturn..


Thanks though,
We all need a good boot in the ass from time to time. lol

and I did LOL.


You look just like a friend of mine named Tim..
if that is you..
He would have pointed out the same thing.
lol

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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It's a freak'in bird!



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Yup that's me! and the funny thing is I asked my girlfriend if I would be an ass if I posted that, and she said "of course, you're always an ass"



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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I think what you're seeing is Mercury, a waning crescent Moon, and Venus, but as for the first picture depicting the Moon in the middle two days ago is not accurate. I looked and viewed + or - 2 days, either way, and the Moon would never line-up in between Antares and Venus like that.

Here is what I think you are referring to and also note the date and year, it is January 30, 2011, when the Moon, Mercury, and Venus is in this particular configuration. The other picture just can't be right.




posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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i see it all the time, i thought it was jupiter and uranus. i have google sky map on my phone so i can hold it up to the sky and it tells me exactly what I'm looking at.

on a side note: does anybody think that maybe the country flags that have the crescent moon and the star on it could be related to the position of one of these planets/stars?




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