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Originally posted by undo
reply to post by forklift
do you know what characterizes a babylonian belief vs. a judaic belief as far as the babylonian time frame is concerned?
Originally posted by forklift
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by forklift
do you know what characterizes a babylonian belief vs. a judaic belief as far as the babylonian time frame is concerned?
Ever read the babylonian talmud?
Originally posted by dantanna
why do the chozen 'kill' those who oppose 'their' way of thinking?
Originally posted by forklift
reply to post by undo
Babylonians are satanists, they don't believe in god.The 70 babylonian rabbis who wrote the talmud challenged god.
Both Jesus and Muhammad warned their followers of these zion-satanists and all their prophecies are coming true.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by forklift
So according to your beliefs, jewish mystics are behind everything? Do you not understand all religions have mystical followers and is the basis for masonry and other secret societies? Talmud is for jewish mysticism!
Mysticism can also be called gnosis, or greek for knowledge of creation....thats why athiests call themselves agnostic. Thats why to join many/most secret societies you have to believe in *a supreme creator*...although they leave the WHO aspect up to the discernment of the initiates.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by forklift
Thats why to join many/most secret societies you have to believe in *a supreme creator*
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by forklift
So according to your beliefs, jewish mystics are behind everything? Do you not understand all religions have mystical followers and is the basis for masonry and other secret societies? Talmud is for jewish mysticism!
Mysticism can also be called gnosis, or greek for knowledge of creation....thats why athiests call themselves agnostic. Thats why to join many/most secret societies you have to believe in *a supreme creator*...although they leave the WHO aspect up to the discernment of the initiates.
i think he was trying to draw attention to the very obscene passages in talmud (compared to our modern mores and sensibilities, that is) and how this is indicative of a group of people who are thoroughly evil and that this evil group is in charge of the planet atm. i won't argue that evil is in the world and that it can be found in the dusty pages of ancient texts and ill informed beliefs, but i think what's happening is again, a case of misunderstanding. they THINK they are divine and are determined to prove it, even if it means it kills everyone else (not referring to jews in particular, but the satanists he's referring to. it's all referred to in the biblical texts, which appear to be massaged in such a way as to cover up the parts of final answers, and that gap of info, is what's going to lead to suffering in the future, and what has led to massive suffering in the past.edit on 31-1-2011 by undo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by realitydiscovered
The Jews are damned, they are connected with the old Egyptian
Gods, they provoked the hatred on our planet.
Book of Enoch
The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch[1]) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It is not currently regarded as part of the Canon of Scripture as used by Jews, apart from the Beta Israel canon; nor by any Christian group, apart from the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and Eritrean Orthodox Church canon.
Western scholars currently assert that its older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) date from about 300 BC and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably was composed at the end of the 1st century BC.[2]
It is wholly extant only in the Ge'ez language, with Aramaic fragments from the Dead Sea Scrolls and a few Greek and Latin fragments. There is no consensus among scholars about the original language: some propose Aramaic, others Hebrew, while the probable thesis according to E. Isaac is that 1 Enoch, as Daniel, was composed partially in Aramaic and partially in Hebrew[3]:6. Ethiopian scholars generally hold that the Ethiopian Ge'ez is the language of the original from which the Greek and Aramaic copies were made, pointing out that it is the only language in which the complete text has yet been found.[4]
A short section of 1 Enoch (1En1:9) is quoted in the New Testament (Letter of Jude 1:14-15), and there it is attributed to "Enoch the Seventh from Adam" (1En60:8). It is argued that all the writers of the New Testament were familiar with it and were influenced by it in thought and diction.[5]
Content
The first part of Book of Enoch describes the fall of the Watchers, the angels who fathered the Nephilim. The remainder of the book describes Enoch's visits to Heaven in the form of travels, visions and dreams, and his revelations.
The book consists of five quite distinct major sections (see each section for details):
The Book of the Watchers (1 Enoch 1 – 36)
The Book of Parables of Enoch (1 Enoch 37 – 71) (Also called the Similitudes of Enoch)
The Astronomical Book (1 Enoch 72 – 82) (Also called the Book of the Heavenly Luminaries or Book of Luminaries. )
The Book of Dream Visions (1 Enoch 83 – 90) (Also called the Book of Dreams)
The Epistle of Enoch (1 Enoch 91 – 108)
Among most scholars is the shared view[6] that these five sections were originally independent works (with different dates of composition), themselves a product of much editorial arrangement, and were only later redacted into what we now call 1 Enoch. This view is now opposed only by a few authors who maintain the literary integrity of the Book of Enoch, one of the most recent (1990) being the Ethiopian Wossenie Yifru[4]. Józef Milik has suggested that the Book of Giants found amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls should be part of the collection, appearing after the Book of Watchers in place of the Book of Parables, but for various reasons Milik's theory has not been widely accepted.