Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Vicky32
Sorry vicky, but your source of information is so far off, it not even funny? Where you get off, using a liberally biased book as your only source of
information only further suggests that you are unable to conjure up a constructive thought on your own. Here are some known facts for you to
61% of all child abuse is committed by biological mothers
46.9% of non-custodial mothers totally default on support
66.2% of single custodial mothers work less than full-time
46.2% of single custodial mothers receive public assistance
37.9% of fathers are denied any visitation
50% of mothers see no value in the father's continued contact with his children. --See "Surviving the Breakup" by Joan Berlin Kelly
There are: 11,268,000 total U.S. custodial mothers and 2,907,000 total U.S. custodial fathers --Current Population Reports, U.S. Bureau of the
Census, Series P-20, No. 458, 1991
Take note in the next evidence:
Child custody for fathers following a divorce is one of the most important aspects of a dissolving marriage. Throughout history the legal
presumptions about child custody for fathers has changed significantly. Before the twentieth century children were regarded as the property of their
father. Under common law, child custody for fathers was commonly awarded, as children were considered a father's rightful property.
A major shift occurred after this period in history, as family courts came to favor mothers in child custody
As a result of this view on custody for fathers and mothers, moms are still awarded custody in seventy percent of all child custody cases. Joint
custody for fathers and mothers is awarded about twenty percent of the time. Family law statistics show that sole custody for fathers is awarded less
than ten percent of the time. Statistics from 1991 indicate that forty percent of all child custody cases allowed no custody for fathers, barring them
from both visitation and access rights.
Please take note in the above statistic:
moms are still awarded custody in seventy percent of all child custody cases.
As well as this:
Statistics from 1991 indicate that forty percent of all child custody cases allowed no custody for fathers, barring them from both visitation and
So what was that you were saying? Are you sure about your source? Are you absolutely sure?
First, it wasn't one book, but several (about the USA and New Zealand), and my own experience, in running a support group for non-custodial mothers.
The fact that you refer to it as a "liberal" book says volumes.
Some more comments:
1. "61% of all child abuse is committed by biological mothers " - define child abuse in this context. I know Daddy's rights groups insist that's
true, but objectively true figures show otherwise.
2. "46.9% of non-custodial mothers totally default on support" From the most recent figures I have seen, in the USA women earn around 60c for every
dollar men earn. Actually, that figure might be even lower, given your economy is currently wrecked...
3. "66.2% of single custodial mothers work less than full-time " See point 2. I know that in NZ, the under/uemployment rate for women is
considerably higher than for men, and that's absolutely certain to be the case in the USA.
4. "46.2% of single custodial mothers receive public assistance" See 2 and 3 above.
5. " 37.9% of fathers are denied any visitation " Given what happened with Hilary Morgan, any mother who denies 'visitation' is in for a world of
hurt, therefore I assume it's the Courts that have denied visitation. The man should ask himself why? Did he beat the mother? Did he hurt the
6. " 50% of mothers see no value in the father's continued contact with his children. --See "Surviving the Breakup" by Joan Berlin Kelly"
See number 5, and I'll add some of my own experience. My first ex (AntiChrist/Devil/actually just an alkie) won custody of my son when the poor kid
was 3 years old (by kidnapping him! Some ******* judge decided that posession was 9 points of the law, and that as my parents were dead, he'd leave
G., with his father.
That father didn't want my son, but he wanted to avoid paying child support. So he got himself a new live-in (he didn't marry her), and she moved
her 8 kids in. My son was treated like the runt of the litter (he was the youngest) and bullied unmercifully. The ex and his new "lady" spent the
next 10 years trying to screw $$ out of me, to pay for her kids' holidays etc, and when I had a new relationship and my second son, they punished me
by refusing me access (visitation) for a year and a half - knowing that I couldn't afford to go back to court to get my rights. (It's a civil matter
So, I think there was definitely no value in the son's further contact with his father. The repercussions still hurt us all, 30 years later, and long
after the death of the new 'lady'...