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Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by TedHodgson
Nobody should vote for either of them in the next General election. Now that would screw up the democratic so called system.
Labour, Conservativs and the Liberals are as bad as each other. None of these parties can be trusted anymore. Hell no politician can be trusted anymore. They all should resign at the next election. And let us the elector get rid of them once and for all.
And its about high time, us citizzens came out and stuck it to them. These protests are only going to become bigger and more violent as they go along.
Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by MMPI2
Off the top of my head:
1) The government has a monopoly on the use of force to enforce their claim to the natural resources of the state, over the objections or wellbeing of thee people who actually live there.
2) If through financial or legislative means, the "government" removes the ability to compete with its corporate benefactors, the people will no longer have the means to "earn" their education, their "health insurance" or even their food and shelter. The people cannot address this through force, as the government alone "owns" this right (see 1 above). Therefore -- what would you recommend they do to address the inequality?
Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by Catch_a_Fire
Ah so i was right then
I have woken up You however seem to live in a world of poverty and Poorness from the way you talk.
Theres plenty of Good Jobs out there, If you try youll get one, And Earn some money Or you can spend it all on beer
Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by mr-lizard
I merely stated that i can infact save £1500 for a package education when i have worked full time for a year, Which i can,
Infact most people can
And if you had a full time job you would be able to tooedit on 29/1/11 by TedHodgson because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MMPI2
is this whole thing just a bunch of entitled brats finally having the silver government spoon yanked out of their mouth?
Originally posted by Dagar
Originally posted by PurpleDog UK
The world owes you nothing, YOU have to take RESPONSIBILITY and get on with it.....
Ok and fine ... but
Stop taxing the crap out of people, on the pretext you are going to provide free education... then carry on taxing the crap out of people whilst asking them to pay for their education.
Not the people's fault you decided to waste our taxes on bailing out a load of bankers, and now expect the people to pay that debt as well.
I agree with the principle of you pay your own way... The trouble is people have... FOR GENERATIONS!!... Those kids' parents (and this country) paid more tax (directly and indirectly) than pretty much any other country in Europe except possible some of the Scandinavian countries.
We pay taxes on our fuel that would have our American cousins screaming blue murder and reaching for their guns
We pay so much tax on our alcohol and cigarettes that people take daytrips over to France to stock up and still spend a fraction of what they would over here.
We pay taxes till we literally resemble a corpse after a pack of vampires has been at it.
We do this so our government provides healthcare, education, pensions, and everything else they use as an excuse to Tax us.
The reason people are getting so hacked off to the point of violence is because we bailed out a whole bunch of Hooray Henries who were 'too big to fail'. Now, those same Hooray Henries are telling our governments that we are spending too much money (go figure), and our government is either cutting services we paid for, or asking people to pay for them again.
We don't get 'free' education or healthcare, contrary to what most Americans think... We pay taxes to have them provided when we need them. We don't pay those taxes to have our government bail out all those 'too big to fail' establishments!!
Originally posted by Mike_A
People are very quick to condemn all politicians as crooks and liars
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
reply to post by TedHodgson
Fuzzy world?......
My brother in law was working a 48 hr week on an apprenticeship to earn £70 a week, now think of the living costs in this country right now and then guesstimate what he may have been left with. Then after 2 years in this apprenticeship the government wouldnt help with the cost of him earning his level 3 to become fully qualified, 2 years down the drain and nothing worthy to show for it.edit on 29/1/2011 by Catch_a_Fire because: spelling
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Do you think a well educated populace is good for a country? Is it worth investing in?
Originally posted by MMPI2
pardon my naivete, but please explain to me exactly what these people are protesting. I would appreciate it.
LOL, it would take a school leaver a lot longer than a year to save that at the rates they get paid these days.
Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
reply to post by MMPI2
I wouldnt say that, but i can see how you would. When you live in a country that is taxed like we are, you would understand peoples anger.