Weekend of protests across the UK

Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
reply to post by TedHodgson

 

I can understand things from your point of view, but how is a 16 year old school leaver supposed to come up with this £1500 to further theyre education.

well, they work and they save. their parents start saving and planning before they're born.

some folks in the u.s. join the military to facilitate their educations.

i worked my butt off to put myself through college and graduate school when lots of my friends were out partying and having fun. they got what they wanted, and I got what I wanted. that is the way it is done.

is this whole thing just a bunch of entitled brats finally having the silver government spoon yanked out of their mouth?

reply to post by MMPI2


I wouldnt say that, but i can see how you would. When you live in a country that is taxed like we are, you would understand peoples anger.

reply to post by Catch_a_Fire


What kind of Fuzzy world do you live in?! I worked full time for a year In at a Bar, I earnt Approximately £12,000

Infact in 15 Average Jobseekers payments an english citizen will earn £1,500, What are you On about?

The problem is access to higher education is going to become harder for those from poorer back grounds, we already have 7% of privately educated pupils who will go on to take up the majority of the professions. Inequality in the uk is about to become much worse.

reply to post by Catch_a_Fire


Generous grants, depending on your household income you can get nearly all of your costs paid for by the state.

reply to post by Laurauk


So we've got rid of all politicians, who is going to govern the country? Are you going to step up to the plate?

People are very quick to condemn all politicians as crooks and liars but few ever seem willing to nominate themselves to do a better job. Can't blame them really considering that as soon as they get into politics people see them as a politician and therefore a crook and a liar too. A vicious cycle of cynicism.


reply to post by woodwardjnr

The problem is access to higher education is going to become harder for those from poorer back grounds

How?

reply to post by TedHodgson


Fuzzy world?......

My brother in law was working a 48 hr week on an apprenticeship to earn £70 a week, now think of the living costs in this country right now and then guesstimate what he may have been left with. Then after 2 years in this apprenticeship the government wouldnt help with the cost of him earning his level 3 to become fully qualified, 2 years down the drain and nothing worthy to show for it.

reply to post by Catch_a_Fire


Not everyone is in a Dodgy Sounding Apprenticeship.

Some, Like me got a real job and Earned and saved money Rather than drinking it away.

Just because your brother hasnt got anywhere doesnt mean Others havent suceeded and done well in life

reply to post by Mike_A


How?

Well people from poorer backgrounds are far less likely to apply for a course that costs up to £9,000 a year, not to mention living costs. These fees are not a problem for the wealthy, with some families capable of paying the total fee upfront. I understand the fees dont have to be paid back until earning a certain amount, but who wants to be landed with nearly 30grands worth of debt before they have even started in life.

Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by Catch_a_Fire

 

What kind of Fuzzy world do you live in?! I worked full time for a year In at a Bar, I earnt Approximately £12,000

Arent you the lucky one.

Infact in 15 Average Jobseekers payments an english citizen will earn £1,500, What are you On about?

And after living costs what would be left.

You should really take a step back and think about what you post.

No offence.

The royal family can abolish Parliament. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it isn't LEGAL and TRUE.

How happy are the British common people with a camera on them all the time?

Is it comfortable? Did you solve crime yet? Or does it still happen despite all the totalitarian measures?

What about the absurd policies the local police enforce?

I do really like British people, and always tend to view their police as exceptionally intelligent and impeccably well mannered. However some of these days they are quite overbearing and authoritarian. And the worst part is it's extremely inexplicable misunderstandings that become the biggest issues.

UK people post videos all the time, and have been a staple of youtube and liveleak since video hosting began.

I personally hope to God that the British can declare true freedom and live without the need of a Monarchy to hoard their future from them.

If you have a King or Queen, you cannot be free. It makes you a subject.

And watching a Monarch "pay taxes" is hilarious. Since the King/Queen pays taxes to THEMSELVES, you should have to pay taxes to them also?

It's crazy as heck.



So if they are protesting about a silly matter like Tuition at school, you have been very distracted from the true legit reasons for protest. To declare constitutional authority over the government and put them in their rightful place as SUBJECTS to the Sovereign People of the UK.

The Government is suppose to be the subjected one. Instead with a Monarch, the people are the subjects.

If you have read up on the Pilgrim Society, among many other types of, shall we say diplomatic and strategic partnerships behind the scenes. And even very public in the spotlight partnerships like Bush and Blair during the bloody Iraq and Afghanistan debacle of our era.

The US and the UK are intimately and deeply connected in many ways.

So I honestly feel like I am griping about my Own US govt here while griping about the UK govt.

Seriously, what's the difference? It's just on this side of the pond we pretend the Monarchy doesn't control us. Over there, people tend to grovel at the feet of the Monarchy.

So really I should protest too. We both should.
Something is seriously wrong with both of us. And it looks very similar.

Please understand I have great respect for the UK. The USA was born of a Revolution of the UK Monarchy. Our History is one in the same.

Sorry for the rant....bored today I guess...

reply to post by Catch_a_Fire


Are you real?! How Old are you?!.....I Would say my lving costs came to around £7000 all inclusive for the year, No offence But Really you should understand that Some people are good with money

Reading alot of great posts over the student fees, i like teds about how the gov cant afford to hand out handouts like they used to due to the country being broke, but i mainly think we all should live in an equal society where its not just the rich getting richer, poor getting poorer etc. which is where we are stuck at.

Originally posted by Namaste1001


That's not quite true. The queen is at the forefront of the global elitist agenda. They may appear just symbols but the aristocracy are a part of the problem. The entire caste system needs to be thrown out and replaced with a fairer system where all men and women are equal.

edit on 29-1-2011 by Namaste1001 because: (no reason given)

I really like you. Thank you for speaking the truth.

The cat's out of the bag.

Things will be changing. We will build a strong system of justice and equality.

The paradigm of control is done for, it's on the way out. They lost their grips....

Shutting the net down will only show their true hand and end the game faster.
Matter of time now....

Originally posted by Spinster
Reading alot of great posts over the student fees, i like teds about how the gov cant afford to hand out handouts like they used to due to the country being broke, but i mainly think we all should live in an equal society where its not just the rich getting richer, poor getting poorer etc. which is where we are stuck at.

Broke?

Have you seen the Monarch's palaces?

Also, have you seen the UK military? It's top quality.

Your brimming with riches.

Let me guess, you have dinner tonight too?? Full belly and all.

reply to post by muzzleflash


I agree with much of what you said, it annoys me that people in this country get all riled up about muslims, so much so that a new social movement is created, yet the bankers, politicians and money men that run this country get away scot free. The people that really do the damage to the country sit back and laugh as we fight amongst ourselves. Keeps us blinded from the real issues and sells more papers.

reply to post by Catch_a_Fire


There would be nothing left On Job-seekers Thats what its for, Living costs.

I however am not on Benefits And work hard for my money, Spave it wisely and Save Up for an eventual mortgage downpayment, if you think That everyone in the world is Useless and never has money you really need to get your head straight

reply to post by TedHodgson


Im not even going to comment on your last post.

But i will leave you with this......open your eyes and see what its like in the real world.

Intresting'

Could anyone tell me if there is going to be any protests in Manchester tomorrow?
I will be sure to attend if i get a heads up.

PM me with any info thanks

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

I agree with much of what you said, it annoys me that people in this country get all riled up about muslims, so much so that a new social movement is created, yet the bankers, politicians and money men that run this country get away scot free. The people that really do the damage to the country sit back and laugh as we fight amongst ourselves. Keeps us blinded from the real issues and sells more papers.

They are robbing us both.

Wall Street is intimately connected with London.

We only THINK we are poor.

Really, there are vaults with all our loot, and the rest of the world's loot too!

They are trying to rob us. But I promise you it's there.

Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by Catch_a_Fire

 

There would be nothing left On Job-seekers Thats what its for, Living costs.

I however am not on Benefits And work unlike some Lazy folk

Your attitude stinks and you're quite patronising aren't you?

Reality check: Not everyone can find a job, not every job employs full time, not every body is qualified or trained for specialist jobs and not everyone on the dole is lazy.

Just because you've had a jolly decent time of it, does not give you the right to insult those, like myself who are struggling at the moment.