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This literature came out of the same religious and philosophical ferment that produced Neoplatonism, Christianity, and the diverse collection of teachings usually lumped together under the label "Gnosticism"
1. It chanced once on a time my mind was meditating on the things that are, my thought was raised to a great height, the senses of my body being held back - just as men who are weighed down with sleep after a fill of food, or from fatigue of body.
Methought a Being more than vast, in size beyond all bounds, called out my name and saith: What wouldst thou hear and see, and what hast thou in mind to learn and know?
2. And I do say: Who art thou?
He saith: I am Man-Shepherd (Poemandres), Mind of all-masterhood; I know what thou desirest and I'm with thee everywhere.
3. [And] I reply: I long to learn the things that are, and comprehend their nature, and know God. This is, I said, what I desire to hear.
He answered back to me: Hold in thy mind all thou wouldst know, and I will teach thee.
That Light, He said, am I, thy God, Mind, prior to Moist Nature which appeared from Darkness; the Light-Word (Logos) [that appeared] from Mind is Son of God.
What then? - say I.
Know that what sees in thee and hears is the Lord's Word (Logos); but Mind is Father-God. Not separate are they the one from other; just in their union [rather] is it Life consists.
Thanks be to Thee, I said.
So, understand the Light [He answered], and make friends with it.
Originally posted by FoxfilesMulder
Apart from the books of the bible, ancient or modern writings are not meant to be read as accurate fact or "the absolute truth" because they are mostly relating to God teaching Himself to an individual that only this individual will understand because it came from their own contemplative mind. However, the writings may be read as inspiration and creative thought to induce similar manifestations and thought provoking musings, allowing God to shine.
Iedit on 29-1-2011 by FoxfilesMulder because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by BreezeLike
There are no books that speak the truth. All stories are just stories, history.
There is nothing to learn, only an unlearning is needed.
We think that if we know then we will be safe. Religion promises safety, but does it deliver? Find the right way, the right path and you will be saved. From what?
Heaven and Hell are not places, they are states of mind. Heaven is here right now. Hell is thinking there is something wrong and believing it.
Some religions love to tell you how wrong, things and you can be, that you will be punished or rewarded. How is that unconditional love?
Forget everything you have learned.
Just ask yourself ' Who am I? ' ' What am I? '.
The jewel is hidden inside.
Originally posted by etherical waterwave
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by BreezeLike
Find the right way, the right path and you will be saved. From what?
Many Christians speak that Christianity is right and your religion is wrong. But that’s not what its’ about.
I believe no religion is wrong if you seek god and his holy spirit. As long as you believe in God and the holyspirit and live a life of peace and Love, You will be saved. For you are living as Jesus wanted you to.
Luke 12:10 “And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blaspheme against the Holy ghost it shall not be forgiven”
Matthew 12:31 “Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.”
Many religions don’t have Jesus and God on the same level. The holy ghost , God and Jesus are one in the Christian faith. But Jesus says to us that disrespecting him can be forgiven. Wow
John 15:14-15:15 “Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth; but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.”
"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life."
His word speaks of Love and peace. People spend there whole live trying to discredit Jesus rather than see what he was about. Save you from eternal death.
Originally posted by bogomil
["Apart from the books of the bible, ancient or modern writings are not meant to be read as accurate fact or "the absolute truth" because they are mostly relating to God teaching Himself to an individual that only this individual will understand because it came from their own contemplative mind. However, the writings may be read as inspiration and creative thought to induce similar manifestations and thought provoking musings, allowing God to shine."]
And on exactly what criteria can you claim what's to be considered 'absolute truth' or not?
Personally I have a couple of very good rational reasons to exclude also the bible and the concept 'god' from the category 'truth', even disregarding such technicalities as how big or small this truth is considered to be.
(Except as an almost solipsistic manifestation inside a self-contained holy bubble, where it's 'true' as a psychological phenomenon without any further meaning).
You're talking about a personal 'faith'. Nothing more.
Originally posted by slymattb
reply to post by FoxfilesMulder
Forgive me but I call this crap. So your supposed to read scripture that was put forth in broken parts. Stupid really I only get the half meaning of the bible. Jew laws come and no Christ. Likewise Christ life but no beginning.
The true is life after is a big gamable. And where you spend it even more. The bible is the word of God all of it the was cannon at least. And the bible is best understood as a whole. And those laws and boudaries that your talking about either come from God if its in the bible (God's house is a house of prayer and worship) or from man. Like those who chose to kill in the name of God.
Again life after death is a big gamable.
O and this crap about the bible teaches to forget God maybe you should pick the book. The book plainy talks about God almost in every page.edit on 4-2-2011 by slymattb because: (no reason given)
Floodings all over the world. Prophecy What do you think of this my friend