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"UFO Over Temple Mount in Jerusalem" [discussion and analysis of multiple videos HERE]

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Fake. Since i've never seen an authentic ufo video before and there have been literally tens of thousands of them then I see no reason to even look at this. If UFOs are real then they can't be recorded on video. That's my conclusion. And since they can't be recorded then they can't be proven, just like god. Works real well for money makers in ufology huh?

Show me some genuine video and prove me wrong.
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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I think the first video is real.

I think the second video is real. If the first is, the second is.

I don't think the third is - because yeah. That's exactly what I would act like If i saw a UFO descend on the city. Cmon folks.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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That makes absolutely no sense



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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Show me some genuine video and prove me wrong.
I believe this is genuine footage, so why don't you try actually watching the videos. The same event was captured on 3 different cameras and you wont even give it a glance? Spoken like a true sheeple.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Nope, I have alread debunked the green screen theory HERE:
www.abovetopsecret.com...







posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Jonny,

You must be new to the scene. There are plenty of videos out there that can not be debunked so easily. Do some research, read a few books, do more research - do the math.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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No YOU don't understand... I know fully well that twisting a camera will cause background objects and foreground objects to move together.... ARE YOU SUGGESTING THE ENTIRE VIDEO IS FULL OF TWISTING AND ZERO HORIZONTAL MOVEMENT ON THE X AXIS?
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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So... about that third video....

Has the idea ever crossed anyone's mind that its really really late to be doing a tour of the city of Jerusalem.... I mean 0100... are you kidding me? Who does large group tours at 0100?
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by DevilDog0311
Who does large group tours at 0100?


In that region...hmm...

...Moses did one from Egypt to Israel a little while back.

-m0r



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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Has anyone seen the video posted on i09?
(io9.com...)
You need to scroll down past the video about the ufo in Utah to see it,

It's a third and MUCH closer perspective on the same event.
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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I also have a 3D artist and computer programmer joining the frey - who states "HOAXKiller1" is dead wrong about his assumptions.

He even programmed a nice little program called "Perspective Test" in which he will soon demonstrate how wrong HOAXKiller1 is. According to this programmer, he will be joining this site soon (tomorrow?) and he will also be putting up a counter video to HOAXKiller1's unscientific claims.

This said, I have to say that I have doubts on the 3rd video - the 1st and 2nd videos seem to be the ones to focus on.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Video is reliable when there are about a hundred people that see the same thing at the same time in the same place. Documentation of reports would help too, but a couple of young people with not great resolution is not very convincing.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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If you want hard evidence of UFO existence, look into the Shag Harbour incident.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by DevilDog0311
So... about that third video....

Has the idea ever crossed anyone's mind that its really really late to be doing a tour of the city of Jerusalem.... I mean 0100... are you kidding me? Who does large group tours at 0100?
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shhh...don't use logic



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:23 PM
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Is there a single post somewhere which labels which videos are first, second, and third???

Am assuming the first two are the ones from the same perspective, and the really stupid looking one that's up close is the third?

Just want to make sure I'm following this one.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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That is correct. The first vid shows the man by the ledge, the second vid is from the camera of the dude that is seen in the first, and the third is the one with the large group of english speaking tourists.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Thats funny, HOAXKiller1 is a 3D artist and a programmer too. I wonder if your guy will even understand his arguments, or if he is going to make the same erroneous simpleton judgements and not see the complexity in the arguments.

Oh, and thanks for ignoring my question...

I don't think anyone has studied these videos more than my self, and I have detected camera movements along all 3 axis of the camera, and a change in ONE of those axes is all that is needed to show parallax effect (which is completely missing).

Sure I could be wrong about the background being fake... but I know I am not wrong about the lights being fake, and the UFO being fake...
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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How can you prove the validity of these videos? How can you prove there were not edited by believable effects from software that can be pirated so easily these days?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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Well here is yet another angle:
www.liveleak.com...

It seems no flash in this one.. so one of these is fake. Oh and this one is too
the very end when it 'warps', looks very cgi to me. Also not to mention the fact that if it's a glowing orb it should be lighting the top of the building (and it doesn't)

Probably some guy touring Jerusalem and wanted to take the opportunity to make a few fake vids from different angles so people believe it..
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by kroms33
I also have a 3D artist and computer programmer joining the frey - who states "HOAXKiller1" is dead wrong about his assumptions.

He even programmed a nice little program called "Perspective Test" in which he will soon demonstrate how wrong HOAXKiller1 is. According to this programmer, he will be joining this site soon (tomorrow?) and he will also be putting up a counter video to HOAXKiller1's unscientific claims.

This said, I have to say that I have doubts on the 3rd video - the 1st and 2nd videos seem to be the ones to focus on.


I call BS



Originally posted by SomeCheesyUsername
Video is reliable when there are about a hundred people that see the same thing at the same time in the same place. Documentation of reports would help too, but a couple of young people with not great resolution is not very convincing.


Exactly

I agree 100% Hoaxkiller1 did just that, proved without a doubt this is manipulated footage. As much as I want it to be real im not going to kid myself. The fringe continues to beat a dead horse, not only is the video manipulated in all instances the several other red flags as well. Hoaxkiller1's analysis stands strong. kroms33 your logic if flawed in your presentation. There is too much manipulation involved with these videos. You can present one aspect how you interpret it but you are dead wrong. Because that is not what im seeing. This has ANW hoax written all over it. It also has religious undertones that is suspect as well. It is deception and with a viral agenda to boot. It is appalling.

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