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"UFO Over Temple Mount in Jerusalem" [discussion and analysis of multiple videos HERE]

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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hmmmm, the only thing i can really think of is maybe, this could be the photon mind cleansing?, and at the ending it looks like the same floating pyramid looking objects that have been showing up everywhere!, wich i also think are illuminati faking the alien landings.maybe so we can worship this higher powerd beings. just some thoughts ?
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:58 AM
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Ahhhhhhh something stinks



From the analysis so far it appears to be a hoax, Michael Cohen is featuring this on his allhoax website. That is a red flag right there! He has been behind several cgi hoaxes over the past few years and also the wikileaks UFO cable hoax. The man is a major thorn in the side of UFOLOGY. This is very typical of Cohens method in viral youtube spam. This reeks of Cohen hoax, the witnesses do not come forward yet we are provided names never to hear from them again like the pyramid over Russia hoax.



Cohen always appears like a roach when you flip on the light then scurry's away only to resurface again when the hype dies down. Just in time to keep the traffic fl0wing to his site and reap donations from suckers. He just never goes away. I would gamble this is a another allhoaxweb CGI job.



Second video of UFO over Jerusalem holy sites surfaces Michael Cohen On Saturday All News Web reported on a UFO video taken from the Armon Hanatziv panoramic lookout. The UFO is seen descending almost to the level of the Dome of the Rock/Temple Mount, the spot where the Al Aksa Mosque stands and the Jewish Holy of Holies is believed to have been located once. Since then this UFO video has spread like wildfire across the net; Hailed as proof of alien visitation. In the video a second witness was seen filming the UFO event and now it seems that witness has uploaded his video online (see below). We are now waiting for more witnesses to come forward claiming to have also seen the UFO. We have had one email from one Jerusalemite, Mr Menachem Ben David, a resident of the Talpiot. Mr Ben David on seeing the video himself, claims that he was walking back from late night prayers at the Western Wall when he did notice an unusual flash of light: however he did not see any UFOs. Interestingly, ancient Jewish texts talk of a ball of light that would descend to the Temple to ignite the sacrificial altar in days gone by. Was this ball of light being sent down by aliens?




Figures

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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I was wrong. The initial flash (there are 2, one widespread akin to 'sheet lightning' and one localised to the temple mount) is I'm sure part and parcel of the entire thing. I've looked at all the videos available on Youtube and have to say the main anomoly for me is the tree in the foreground. The flash shows as would be expected on the inward facing right shoulder of the guy holding thecamera phone, but not on the tree in the right hand side of the image.

I'll try to screenshot to show what I mean. This was taken from a brightened version with hoax in the title, so perhaps I'm picking the wrong one to scrutinize but after trying to stop exactly at the right frames I managed it here...




Still inconclusive but suspect that absolutely no light would pass through the branches of the tree.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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Sometimes the 'thorns in the side' are used as tools in the game against truth.

If the footage is faked, it was clearly timed to draw our attention away from other matters; as part of an ongoing experiment to see how the populace would react to certain staged events.

The game is afoot - the time is now. Are we ready?


I say keep your eyes on the Middle East, and if possible try to open the eyes of those around you. The world is lined up to get pretty hectic in the very near future.

There's an iron fist inside a velvet glove, just waiting to sucker-punch the lot of us.


on the PTB.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:08 AM
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Nice call.


I suspect that the footage may be genuine, but was 'reverse-doctored' prior to hitting the web. Still, in the grand scheme of things it's served its masters quite well. Are any of us still focusing on political unrest in the Middle East, or are we arguing amongst ourselves about this footage? Interesting to know whether any faults were reported in the CCTV network in Jerusalem around the time of the incident. EMP pulses?

You gotta
with it.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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To be fair, it's hard not to follow what's happening in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and Israels recent cable sent to Western leaders stating they are 'anxiously monitoring' the situation.

They'd need to send us all an individual, personalised UFO experience to detract from the Middle East right now.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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Im not sure if anyone here has seen the recent film "skyline" a film about Aliens invading the Earth that came out last November. I might add dumbest film and plot i have ever witnessed however entertaining like this Jerusalem UFO footage. In fact just like it a ball of light descends down in the city in the same fashion then shoots back up in to the sky inside waiting mother ship. Just like with the Pyramid Hoax idea from Stargate the Hoaxers this time used Skyline as the template.


screen cap from film Skyline


They are so predictable



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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Third video has appear on you tube which is much clearer.




posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:25 AM
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NOTE: I AM NOT A DEBUNKER

But, I do see many problems here. For one, It kind of seems the light's size is inconsistent. If the perspective of the first video was much farther, then this light would have been much larger.

Second, where are the light flashes from the first two videos?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:25 AM
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FlyInTheOintment
Are any of us still focusing on political unrest in the Middle East, or are we arguing amongst ourselves about this footage?


Yes I am , watching it on the news as we speak , but I am also checking this out as well ...... who said men couldn't multitask

My view on this initially interesting footage echo those of Unknown Soldier , any story with even a whiff of Michael Cohen's involvement should be treated with extreme caution .


FlyInTheOintment
I suspect that the footage may be genuine, but was 'reverse-doctored' prior to hitting the web.

I think your reading to much into this highly suspect footage



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by bisonpowers
Third video has appear on you tube which is much clearer.



I'm sorry if no one can tell that in this "video" the whole city is just a picture moving around with voices on the background, then i quit ATS.....who ever is posting these "UFO" videos must be having a nice laugh.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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Image lag (due to CMOS image sensors) presents itself as showing information from past pixels that should have left the screen already (like letters or objects remaining dimly or wholly on screen after they should have disappeared).

This would not, and could not be the explanation behind the entire foreground detaching from, and creating a new line of perspective that does not connect to- or remain part of- the linear plane of the background's horizon.

What it would do is leave a blurred (often called smearing) or dimmed or echoing of the image. The image does not show signs of basic CMOS image lag at all, nor does the light (that is perfectly clear) present any form of image lag at all.

Failed CCD can not do this either, as a failure of the CCD will result only in blurring, dimming or improper coloration (splash-over). It is clear that this camera is not a triple CCD camera, and I do not doubt that it was not a high end recorder. But nonetheless, CCD failure will not result in creating or presenting an entirely new and impossible perspective for the foreground while allowing the background to remain present in its natural perspective.

I am aware of the errors you speak of and have played with film all my life. I see no blooming, image lag or CCD problems here at all.

What I DO see is the foreground independently "detaching itself" entirely (throughout the entire clip) from its perfectly established background...in effect- breaking the laws of perspective as defined as far back as the 4th century BC.

Again, I understand if you can not agree or feel as if there is a loop hole here in this logic, but there is none.

It is impossible to have the foreground detach and remove itself from the stationary background to present a totally new and impossible perspective due to image lag.

The errors you speak of do not result in this type of anomaly.

Image lag is exactly what it sounds like...a lagging image where pixels continue to show information that should have left the screen (also called ghosting).

CCD failure in single CCD cameras do not produce this anomaly either, and present themselves as discoloration .

MM



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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:38 AM
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So now you guys decide if its a real deal or just a continues viral marketing to promote the tourism in the area or "GOD's Chosen People' propaganda?


UFO-Blogger.com
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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by infomaster

So now you guys decide if its a real deal or just a continuous viral marketing to promote the tourism in the area or "GOD's Chosen People' propaganda?


UFO-Blogger.com


Good find.

The daytime UFO vid is a little peculiar! How come none of the many tourists in the foreground notice this pretty hard-to-miss orb-o-batics display occurring directly above them?



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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 05:54 AM
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Good call!!

Just took another look and totally agree...Still image with CG overlayed and voices added.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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That video "We seen it in mississippi like this but never like this" lol


That lady fits the "UFO Nut" stereotype we often hear about. She may have set us back 60 years with that statement. Just great, and the other womans reaction immediately is that a UFO? one would expect a different reaction from an unsuspecting group to witness such an event.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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Really disappointingly, this is in fact a hoax. I really wanted it to be genuine, but after studying the images, Im afraid they are faked- layered up footage using something like After Effects. Some of the clues are in Mr Masks post- image stabilization software in digital video cameras do produce an artifact we know as 'hunting', where the camera is struggling to get a 'fix' on the image, but they would not cause the background to detach itself from the foreground and move independently. I could go on, but its a bit depressing really, and gives kudos to the hoaxers- why do people get off on this? Believe me, it would have taken a good amount of time to set these up- nothing better to do or something more sinister?

The positive thing is that, within this thread, there has been some high quality analysis carried out by various members, and both debunkers and believers have managed to have a (generally) civilized, intelligent discussion on the footage, which would no doubt really annoy the hoaxers, who I think would love to believe that ATS'ers accept any old UFO footage pedaled, or debunk with out question or reason, just because the individual 'doesnt believe in UFO's'.

Im happy to say this isnt the case.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 06:07 AM
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I also find this video the most compelling I've seen to date. The debunk based upon background/foreground motion inconsistencies is tenuous, it is not clear that image stabilization software and parallax effects could not be responsible. I would also be interested to know how isolating the background from the foreground would help to make a hoax because if I were reproducing this using CGI that would not be something I would consider necessary.

So I have also tried some debunking.

The biggest give away to a poor CGI job would be the flash before the orb ascends. A simple airbrush lightening effect would be very easy to spot. Simply take the frame with the flash and the frame after without the flash and subtract them from each other. If an airbrush has been used to make the flash you will see the shape of the brush used revealed. This is what we see if we do that:



As you can see, the flash appears to originate from the point where the orb is supposedly located. It lights up the ground underneath it and the lighting and shadows all appear to be quite consistent. From this it looks as though there was a real flash of light above the city. Either that or this is very top quality CGI with a high level of attention to detail.



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