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"UFO Over Temple Mount in Jerusalem" [discussion and analysis of multiple videos HERE]

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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another case of a ufo droping something no sound round orb not flares
link to video of another orb dropping

this is very similar

xploder



I noticed over the roof of the garage a red light and white light and the red light isn't flashing like a plane light and that's what draws my attention to it." She says soon there were three red lights and those lights started dropping white streams.

Mike Galbraith was a few miles away in American Fork. He was in the parking lot of a shopping plaza when he saw the lights hanging in the sky. Galbraith was in the Air Force and says his experience caused him to take special notice of the unusual lights. He grabbed his cell phone and started taking video.

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
This time I motion tracked the horizon...



This is proof that it is a HOAX, unless he is in a boat or major Earthquake!


Well well...

So anyone have a reasonable explanation why the foreground moves independently separate from the background? That is (as far as I know) impossible unless the background and the foreground are not "both there" at the same time, and are being filmed separately.

Great job Gift0f!!! Totally debunked.

Of course, people are going to say this doesn't prove anything...but seeing the city "not move one bit" while the foreground dances around "unconnected" to the city's perspective- is a sure blow to this video's credibility.

Never mind that it looked fake in the first place...this evidence seems to crush the video's makers and prove a hoax 100%.

Unless anyone has a legitimate reason for this strange anomaly?

Again, Gift0f, wow...good job. I star you and salute you.

MM

Added- I'm shocked people seem to be ignoring your damning analysis thus far.
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
This time I motion tracked the horizon...



This is proof that it is a HOAX, unless he is in a boat or major Earthquake!


Well that about seals the deal here.

/thread imo.

another Hoax.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by Kratos40
 


Sorry ive gotta add to your post.

All the comments i have seen where people say '' oh look how shaky it is'' but now because the camera is too steady it's a hoax is it??

hmm..


Watching the 2nd video makes it a little more compelling. But when ever I see video that is very steady with hardly any lateral movement its because they don't want us to see any reference points or they have set up the camera on a tripod during the making of the hoax. I could be wrong, and we have finally found someone who knows how to hold a camera while witnessing a bizarre event.

Well never mind Havick007. This is definitely fake and another hoax.
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
This time I motion tracked the horizon...



This is proof that it is a HOAX, unless he is in a boat or major Earthquake!


Then why isn't the man staying perpendicular to the movement of the wall, if you understand what I mean. That slight movement of the wall doesn't look definitive to me, maybe just some funky camera effect. But, I really know little about video analysis, so I'll keep following along watching those that do...

reply to post by davidbiedny
 


Welcome back dB. Your opinion I respect much more than many of the others around here, good to see you joining in. I think many of your questions have been answered in the previous 20 something odd pages, but I understand not wanting to wade through all the noise...Hopefully you'll stick around and continue working on this case....



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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In case you have missed it- see the post by Gift0fphecy halfway down the page

HERE

It seals the deal and drives the nail in the hoax coffin.

No reason to miss this analysis since it was perfectly done and deserving of MANY applauds and stars.

So...go star that post, and applaud him/her.

I'm so thankful for the ATS crew and the individuals who make it their business to destroy and expose hoaxers.

This case has just been closed IMHO.

Unless...OF COURSE...someone here can dispute this logical dissection of the clip's flaw in moving foreground verses its stationary background?.

Like I said...go star Gift0f and thank him for showing us the truth.
MM



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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If you pay attention to the top horizon and the man’s head, it does not move in correlation to the bottom moving horizon which he is standing behind. So if he is standing on the wobbly horizon, why is his upper half stay steady with the stationary horizon? Is he a third element added to the video? Or is it a lighting problem the camera is having?



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by csimon
I was looking at this thread titled "UFO Over Temple Mount in Jerusalem?" and was ready to comment when it suddenly went "404" on me. At any rate I thought the footage was interesting. After a little search it seems that the source isn't usually reliable.

At around frame :50 the orb descends onto the city. At around frame 1:23 the orb shoots out of camera shot. After that there seems to be some red flashing up in the sky. Might just be cheap camer anomily not sure.



Your thoughts on why the thread went missing and/or the video footage.
edit on 29-1-2011 by csimon because: Sorry about the embedding issue.


 
MOD NOTE: The thread was trashed because we do not allow the source ANW to be used here. Please read this thread for more info. If the source is used....the thread will be trashed. Always best to find another source that does not use ANW as their source.


edit on January 29th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: edited title to better reflect the topic.
These events are occuring because of cern lhc. You all have no idea how destructive to our solar system, the milky way galaxy and beyond that particle physics experimentation really is and what can happen.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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The tree and the wall both move independently of the background.

That is enough for me to believe this has been proven a hoax.

Unless...of course...anyone can provide a reasonable explanation why this happens?

PS- the guy also bounces around, it is just harder to notice since he is a moving object. But you are right, he seems to jump around a lot less than the wall and tree. So, if this was a lighting issue (and I doubt that is what it is) than wouldn't he also jump like the tree and the wall?

Him being a third added element would not be pointless...it would help in moving him aside in the second hoaxed clip.

IMHO.



MM



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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If this was real we'd have a multitude of reports of it. If these guys videotaped this "event" from two kilometers away, why did no-one 1 1/2 kilomoeters, 1 kilometer, 1/2 kilometer or even 100 meters from the scene notice and report it, let alone record it. In my book, the lack of other reports totally debunks this. A bright light at night, descending to near roof top level, creating a bright flash before it suddenly zooms out to space, and no-one nearby notices, and only two or so guys at the same location two kilometers away see it? Please, people, you're displaying extreme credulity on this one.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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just to add some fuel to the fire
what is in this video from the us yesterday
showing the same thing happening?
same thing this time in the us

cant imbed not you tube please watch and comment
looks to be the exact same thing
and it made the news and had independant witnesses

IS THIS A HOAX TOO?
in america?

please veiw and comment mr mask as there is something strange going on

xploder
ps thanks in advance



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Gift, a star from me, however, I think I'm not fully convinced yet (just around 85%). I am currently looking for a video demonstrating stabilization software capabilities, and I do see some discrepancies in regards to perspective... Here's an example:



I can see some strange artifacts causing the perspective to look distorted a bit.

I'm still looking for a video with similar conditions and perspective as the one we're dissecting, and if I happen to see one and notice the same discrepancies, I suppose your explanation would not be enough and I'll post it here.

However, I'd like to point out that I'm currently inclined on believing this to be a hoax and do I hate hoaxes... (especially this one if it turns out to be such, as it got me quite excited).
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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I think the NEW second video is filmed right next to or in the same building or IS the same film.

Why? The lights from the vantage point to the middle are the same. The sounds are the same. Both woop! when they see the explosion.

Do I think the video is legit? yes. Do i think its an ufo? yes.


Second sighting: At the end - SAME red light formation.




posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Mask
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Like I said...go star Gift0f and thank him for showing us the truth.
MM



Man, I posted that clip before Gift, and someone else posted that link before me and someone else from yt by the name of Hoaxkiller stabilized the video. Credit goes to Hoaxkiller, it only took reposting the same info several times for people to finally take notice.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Sidenote

Nostradamus bible etc all predict that the Hebrew temple will be rebuilt. Well the dome is there and absent a major war or a nuclear blast its not going anywhere.

Unless of course.... I find it quite amazing that this ufo hovered over the dome. Total trip like wow this is something that could really take a left turn. Pun intended.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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OK, I've done some thinking (I suppose
) and I think I have an explanation about the moving tree and wall according to the horizon.

Please, do excuse me if I am not correct as I'm no pro, however, I think I might make a good point about this.

First, the horizon is far away. Second, the wall and tree are quite closer to the camera taking the footage. When one moves the camera a bit, there will be much more movement noticed in regards to objects closer to the camera, rather than movement in the stuff in the distance.

Think about it like traveling in a car, the objects closest to you will seem to move faster, and objects in the distance will seem like staying still or moving very slowly. I think this is the case we're seeing here.

I hope I've put this with the correct words so you guys would understand what I mean...

I could be wrong but it sounds logical to me and I think we're a bit in a rush to throw this into the hoax bin. (and I said I'm no expert so I'm waiting for the experts to elaborate my theory)
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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another orb drops some thing
Possible UFO over Lehi and American Fork, Utah on 1/26/11


guy mentions that the ufo "dropped something"

xploder



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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original footage

usa

ex utube account from poster who saw it

I saw these 3 red lights that seemed to be hovering in formation and dropping bright flares over American Fork, Utah. Not sure what they were but they don't look like helicopters or any airplanes I've ever seen.
It's also interesting to note that Dugway Proving Ground, an Army weapons testing base went on lockdown just an hour before I sighted this.
I don't know what to make of it but it's definitely strange.


xploder
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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To continue my line of thought, if you stabilize the video according to the objects in the horizon which seem still in the first place, you will very clearly see all the movement that occurs from closeby.

Mr. Mask, you're a cool guy and I like your comics, so, do you find any logic in my line of thought? Experts, please elaborate as well, I for one want this to be completely figured out, so if I'm mistaking, please, someone explain to me, cause it's getting on my nerves already...
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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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I've seen that report from Utah when the whole base-lockdown happened. And yes, it seems that this case mimics the Utah one.

I can assume (if I try hard enough) that the clip of this thread is trying to mock that event to add credibility to their hoax.

Things I notice that separate the two events-

1) Red lights were flying overhead in Utah, not blinking randomly all over the sky like the clip from this thread.

2) The light didn't bounce back up in Utah.

3) The light in Utah was said to appear to be a burning object falling. The clip of this thread seems to be a solid white light (but that can just be quality of video hiding detail I guess).

Alls I am saying is- The foreground and background of THIS CLIP IN THIS THREAD move independently of each other. That there is enough for me to think this case has been proven to be a hoax.

Again, I am willing to agree with anyone who can prove otherwise, or show me how it is possible that the background remains stationary while the foreground bobs around madly.

MM
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