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"UFO Over Temple Mount in Jerusalem" [discussion and analysis of multiple videos HERE]

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posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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I've downloaded the highest-quality version of this video on Youtube, done some brightness pumping in After Effects, and I have to say, this is the most compelling video I've seen in years. While anything can be faked, my first impression is that this appears to be genuine, not hoaxed. The red triangular array of lights in the sky seems to rearrange itself in a highly unusual fashion - not a movement of a solid object, but what appears to be disconnected lights - and then there's a brief bright flash slightly to the left of where I almost expected to see it.

Outside of any further corroboration of other people who might have seen it, and by the limitations of the compression inherent in Youtube encoding, I suspect that this is indeed genuinely anomalous. Fascinating.

dB




posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by ch1n1t0
Now, can any of you explain to me why in the second video (on the right of the split) the lights from the city don't seem to be blocked by "Witness 2" the way they were blocked in the first video (one on the left)?


Yes, because the video on the right is the recording that the guy in the frame on the left was taking with his cellphone.

2nd.


edit on 30-1-2011 by Endure because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Wow, second video really ups the ante on this one. I didn't expect any other footage or anything to be released/posted. If this is a hoax, it is not only 1 really well done hoax video, but TWO really well done hoax videos, so well done that they capture slightly different perspectives of the same scene. That is really hard to do - you'd have to model the whole scene in photoreal 3D and then render it out from two perspectives and then edit back into real video of the Temple Mount. This is legit or a professional-level hoax. YMMV



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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reply to post by Endure
 


EXACTLY MY POINT


Thank you for making this easier for the other blindfolded people who claimed this is the original video only recorder again from a TV screen lol
edit on 30-1-2011 by ch1n1t0 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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reply to post by Endure
 


Project blue beam anyone? Alien false flag, one world government, etc

What was in the 20 story satellite that launched recently? Hologram tech? Who is raiding the hall of records in Egypt right now?

It is a great video BTW.

Sorry for the crazy talk



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by zroth
reply to post by Endure
 


Project blue beam anyone? Alien false flag, one world government, etc

What was in the 20 story satellite that launched recently? Hologram tech? Who is raiding the hall of records in Egypt right now?

It is a great video BTW.

Sorry for the crazy talk


I agree that it is a great video, but what I have a hard time with is this would have been visible all over Jerusalem, and there are no accounts of anyone witnessing this at all that I can find. I can believe that the videos were genuine, and I can also easily believe it is a hoax.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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This thread might help explain the many reasons a UFO will not make a sonic boom.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
edit on 30/1/2011 by SvenTheBerserK because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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I know we are not suppose to make short comments but all I can say is wow...sometime 2 summers ago I alo seen a UFO hover in the sky for a few moments and then shot straight to space...seeing it in person in a whole another mantra...that was too close to comfort...



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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This time I motion tracked the horizon...



This is proof that it is a HOAX, unless he is in a boat or major Earthquake!



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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So the most relevant questions:

- What's the backstory of this video? When did it happen, who is shooting the video?

- Were there any corroborating UFO reports in Jerusalem to accompany the videos? That flash is pretty bright, one would think that other people saw the flash - if not the light, and the subsequent red lights in the sky.

- I'm contacting an Israeli family member, and an Israeli friend, to get a translation of the Hebrew we hear in the video (though I can tell you that the word "ma" heard, is "what" in English, these guys seem confused by what they're seeing).

That other cel phone video is definitely NOT shot off a monitor, it also looks legit.

Sorry, those who think that this is faked, well, like I said, ANYTHING can ultimately be faked, but my gut tells me that these are genuine. Without a backstory, though, we've got little to go on.

And for those who claim that nothing can move like that light that shoots up, on my former podcast, I talked about a sighting I had in New Jersey in the seventies, where I saw a disk shoot up into the air right in front of me, instantly, no sonic boom, no acceleration, it just went from a perfect standstill to full speed, straight up. I've seen this motion with my own two eyes, for what it's worth.

And those red lights above - damn.

This is very exciting footage, and again, it might be faked, but I would bet against it at this point.

dB



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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I agree. As I stated in my post above, I simply sat and watched, embarassingly, with my mouth hanging open. What I saw, which was identical to these videos, was back in 1978 or 1979 (either the winter or early spring the next year). That's a lot of time to have passed to now see a *video* of the exact same event from a different perspective - in another country.

I remain in awe, because that's just how I responded. I do not understand why people think others would run screaming for the mountains, I think it is more natural to be shocked and literally waiting for the next moment to unfold. The last thing that could have crossed my mind was running, and there literally wasn't time enough for fear, or "fight or flight?" to set in. For that to happen, I would think one would need to realize ramifications, and after witnessing this, trust me - it takes a long, long time for that to settle into your mind.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by Libertygal
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I remain in awe, because that's just how I responded. I do not understand why people think others would run screaming for the mountains, I think it is more natural to be shocked and literally waiting for the next moment to unfold. The last thing that could have crossed my mind was running, and there literally wasn't time enough for fear, or "fight or flight?" to set in. For that to happen, I would think one would need to realize ramifications, and after witnessing this, trust me - it takes a long, long time for that to settle into your mind.


I agree with you. Why would these two guys be afraid? I mean they do seem to be at a safe distance from the (seemingly non-threatening) light. Now if this thing landed in my backyard I'm sure my wife would experience fear and fight or flight. However, I see no need to panic since I'm not even sure of what I am looking at.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
This time I motion tracked the horizon...

-video removed to save space-

This is proof that it is a HOAX, unless he is in a boat or major Earthquake!


I would very much like you to do the same thing with a normal video, say shot in daytime with a wall like that and a distant view, also motion tracked. Is that a possibility? I've been working with my motion tracking, but Vegas is not exactly friendly with it and it's honestly giving me a headache.. lol.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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Now i've seen that second video i have to say i'm more impressed with it.... those lights after it shoots up into the sky look like they belong to a larger craft.... the smaller one which descended came from it and then shot back up into it.... if this is the real deal, what the hell was it doing?



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
Now i've seen that second video i have to say i'm more impressed with it.... those lights after it shoots up into the sky look like they belong to a larger craft.... the smaller one which descended came from it and then shot back up into it.... if this is the real deal, what the hell was it doing?


Putting Jesus, Mohamed or the Jewish Messiah back...


(for anyone who doesn't know - that is why every religion is fighting over this temple, it is significant to the 3 religions).
All of the 3 religions believe their messiah is coming back, and this is where he will.... land


yeah, who knows what it was doing if this is real...

edit on 1/30/2011 by kroms33 because: messiah landing zone edit



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Nice job gift! It's very obvious.
L2



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Don't some cameras have a stabilizing function that is auto in them? I would think, since the first video appears to be more focused on the foreground, that perhaps this could explain the changes in the foreground?

I know I had problems with a camera I had a long time ago, when trying to focus on something distant, if something was in the foreground, it would "grab" on to it and inevitably try to self focus on that object. I am no camera or photography expert, my husband found the camera at a phone booth and I loved to play with it. And that was a manual camera with film too, not a digital or mobile phone, and it always happened when I had it set to "auto".



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by davidbiedny
So the most relevant questions:

- What's the backstory of this video? When did it happen, who is shooting the video?

- Were there any corroborating UFO reports in Jerusalem to accompany the videos? That flash is pretty bright, one would think that other people saw the flash - if not the light, and the subsequent red lights in the sky.

- I'm contacting an Israeli family member, and an Israeli friend, to get a translation of the Hebrew we hear in the video (though I can tell you that the word "ma" heard, is "what" in English, these guys seem confused by what they're seeing).

That other cel phone video is definitely NOT shot off a monitor, it also looks legit.

Sorry, those who think that this is faked, well, like I said, ANYTHING can ultimately be faked, but my gut tells me that these are genuine. Without a backstory, though, we've got little to go on.

And for those who claim that nothing can move like that light that shoots up, on my former podcast, I talked about a sighting I had in New Jersey in the seventies, where I saw a disk shoot up into the air right in front of me, instantly, no sonic boom, no acceleration, it just went from a perfect standstill to full speed, straight up. I've seen this motion with my own two eyes, for what it's worth.

And those red lights above - damn.

This is very exciting footage, and again, it might be faked, but I would bet against it at this point.

dB


David,

By any chance do your Israeli family members actually live in Israel?

If so, perhaps you could ask them if they heard anything about this. I think the biggest issue here is that there hasn't been any reports (as far as I know) of this event on Israeli news sites or anywhere else for that matter, leading me to believe this is just clever video manipulation.



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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The camera seems to be at least a kilometre or two away from the mosque, sound travels at about 343m/s, so the sound would take at least 3 seconds to reach the camera.

IF there is any sound associated and synced with the "UFO", it is but more evidence of this being a fake.
edit on 30-1-2011 by myster0 because: slpeling



posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Libertygal
reply to post by Dramier
 


Don't some cameras have a stabilizing function that is auto in them? I would think, since the first video appears to be more focused on the foreground, that perhaps this could explain the changes in the foreground?

I know I had problems with a camera I had a long time ago, when trying to focus on something distant, if something was in the foreground, it would "grab" on to it and inevitably try to self focus on that object. I am no camera or photography expert, my husband found the camera at a phone booth and I loved to play with it. And that was a manual camera with film too, not a digital or mobile phone, and it always happened when I had it set to "auto".



For video cameras, many have a stabilization function which differs in ability between brands. My Sony for instance has such a mode, but all it really does is mildly reduce shaking at best. Still cameras themselves don't have stabilization, but the lenses often do. Canon uses "Image Stabilization" and Nikon uses "Vibration Reduction" for instance.

Video cameras typically focus as widely as possible in the cheaper models and don't have "focus points" like DSLR cameras do. Low end video cameras will always attempt to get the widest depth range and bring everything visible into focus. In order to do this, they require as much light as possible. That is why shooting video at night often leads to blurry out of focus video since the camera needs more light to adequately focus than what is typically available. Higher end video cameras have focus points that can be selected or set much like DSLR cameras and are therefore superior in their ability to focus correctly in low light conditions. As far as the anomalies in the video are concerned, it is impossible to speculate without knowing what cameras were used as to whether they can be explained away to subpar video. I am of the opinion that the oddities seen in this video are due to cheap camera characterstics rather than video editing, but the user Prophecy or whatever the name is (no offense intended) is making a strong argument for it being a composite video.

The effects you are describing are indeed due to the camera setting focus on the closest reference point. With good DSLR cameras, you can override this by either manually focusing, or setting the focus point. Most of the DSLR cameras have a series of dots or boxes that you see when you look through the viewfinder arranged in a cross pattern. You can then select an individual point as the spot you want the camera to base focus on, or select them all, or set the camera to choose its own focus point based on light/aperture/shutter etc.

Most of your cell phone video cameras in my experience at least, will usually default focus to the brightest object in their field of view. Thus if you point one at a street lamp, the lamp will be in focus, but the rest of the scene will be dark and underexposed. With a high end video camera or DSLR still camera, you can override this behavior somewhat and force it to bring the rest of the scene back into focus and exposure to some extent depending on the brightness of the subject.

I hope that answers your question without being too technical.. =P



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