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Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by Smell The Roses
"because here in America we don't want to kill each other, we want to kill the corruption that is causing hell on Earth...
Saturday, 29 January 2011
EGYPT: Looting as Counter-Insurgency
There have been a growing number of reports of looters/thugs conducting smash and grabs across Cairo. Interestingly, there's also a growing number of reports that when these thugs are caught, they have police/interior ministry identification on them. If this is so, the reasons for it are: 1. It tars the insurgency as a group of criminals and thugs. 2. It provides a reason for a reluctant army to get involved and enact a curfew. 3. It forces a percentage of the movement to stay at home (to guard the neighborhood). This above has the potential to set the stage for a harsh response domestically. It could also help provide cover to the regime globally (hitting the Egyptian Museum was smart in this respect, given how many people around the world care much more for the artifacts there than the freedom of 80 m Egyptians). The question is: will it work? A decade ago, certainly. Today? No way. Too much backchannel.
Saturday, 29 January 2011
NEGATION IN EGYPT
Open source insurgencies, revolts, etc. operate on very simple premise: They negate, block, stop, halt, reverse, etc. the status quo. A dictator. A policy. An occupation. Etc. They don't build. They don't construct. They don't transition. They don't rule. They don't make people in the establishment feel good/safe/etc. NOTE: it's important to note, as we saw with the people that defended Cairo's historic museum from looting/fire, they can protect. * The open source insurgency is based on a very simple goal (not an ideology or complex agenda). In Egypt's case: the removal a corrupt dictator. * Successful efforts (Tunisia's success and the first Facebook protest in Cairo) move this goal from a hope to a plausible promise -- something that can be achieved. * A plausible promise is something that everyone can get behind regardless of ideology, religion, agendas, etc. * The open source insurgency runs until the plausible promise is achieved. Mubarak's offer to dissolve the government wasn't enough. He needs to go. * Once Mubarak goes, the open source movement will evaporate -- after that, divergent motivations repeatedly fork the movement. Further, as we have seen in Egypt, the ability of the open source insurgency to withstand/shrug off counter-attacks grows as it moves closer to its goal. Even though hundreds have been killed in Egypt by the police (on 29 January, 2010), it hasn't shaken the movement at all. Online connectivity is an early enabler of open source insurgencies. Once they are formed, online connectivity is not a requirement for their continued operation over the short term. In Egypt's case, shutting down the Internet didn't work (it only made people more upset).
Friday, 28 January 2011
JOURNAL: Cell Phone Coordination of Open Source Protests Here's a cool little phone app called Sukey to help people navigate during a protest/riot. Very useful in avoiding kettling (a slang term for police crowd containment). Check out the tutorial.
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by Smell The Roses
This is why we aren't getting privilege to any of this new tech we have invented
Exactly what new tech do you think has been invented?
Wondering why all these new energy sources
What new energy sources exactly? Or are you on about the numerous so called "free energy" scams people try and flog?
and new food production methods don't ever go through?
Exactly what "new food production techniques" are you in about?
WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE YOU ARE BEING BRAINWASHED AND FED LIES.
You are the one telling lies here.
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Smell The Roses
Egypt is where a lot started in my opinion. The pyramids are very special as are the Egyptian people. Their heart and soul may spark the world into an awakening we have been long waiting for. Yes Tunisia may have been the first true spark but Egypt's rattle has been felt around the world.
Tunisia and Egypt have hardly raised a mention here in Australia..
Maybe the news did a quick segment before telling us how the Australian Open tennis was going..
You do know Murray is in the final right??
That means the UK will get nothing but tennis either..
They won't saturate your tv with this news because people get the idea into their heads to do the same. Australia is just as corrupt as the rest of the western world - so they play it down. Gillard was more willing to go along with the New World Order so Rud was given the push. They're simply putting their major chess pieces into place for when the sh., hits the fan. The Australion Government are sending more money abroad for relief funds than they are willing to pull out for their own people who are suffering catestrophic floods and more to come. They want to tax you for the privilage of being flooded so you bail yourselves out. Nice people eh! It's the same everywhere.
Governments are corperations and make all their decisions in support of their own business/personal interests they're not interested in anything else - all the taxes they collect are used to serve their own illiminati interests. But the worker ants are rising in numbers - time for a cull!
Good luck with the double cyclone heading your way - hope it doesn't cause too much damage. I think you have all had enough.
Sad but true
Originally posted by NoWorldOrder12
loved this movie...great thing to start out on, havnt been on ATS in ages...looks like its back to NWO paranoia and bashing alex jones for me