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Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising

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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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I find it hard to believe that a few people that went to a meeting in NY caused this revolution in Egypt those people have been thinking about that for a long time that still doesnt mean that a NWO organization can be excluded from possibility. You have to look at the big picture they are building anger and violence in the air. Is there a theoretical Moses leading these people who know but when Egypt gets involved it just sounds biblical it has all the context. Even if they are not christians. Has anyone heard the conspiracy about whites or the elites all migrated from Egypt the old pharoahs spread across the world starting in Egypt to Rome to Great Britian christianity had nothing to do with those wars Im linking them saying they could be responsible here is a little vid not the best evidence but just a theory. www.youtube.com... I think it as all part of the NWO agenda.




posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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Just to update that 2/3000 people marching into Manchester City Centre in UK. Don't know if this has already been mentioned.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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It's funny how the small minds always find great secret doings in organic change. Change can happen when an individuals spark of hope is given to a movement or person. You need a catalyst to mobilize many people to give the spark at the same moment. The catalyst for the current wave of change was a poor fruit vendor in Tunisia who immolated himself after suffering from a humiliation at the hands of a government worker. It sparked a change in government in Tunisia. Because of this success, the spark of change was swept into Egypt. This is what started the current uprising. Everything else, all the various factions wants and aspirations, are just adding to the bonfire. Certainly groups, who have long plotted and schemed, are now scurrying to manipulate the situation. But don't deny the will of the people wanting change and assign the movement to anything else. There is no need for foreign boogy- man here, Egypt's government is the boogy-man.


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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
I apologize on behalf of the USA for spreading freedom.

Not!

Haha. We are damn proud of it.


You seriously believe your governments intention is to spread freedom? I find that hard to believe. Like the OP, as soon as I heard this I was immediately suspicious.

America has a long history of having pawns elected via manufactured disent. A Democratic Egypt would be dangerous for America, which begs the question of why they'd push for it. There's got to be alterior motives. I wouldn't be surprised if one totalitarian pro-American arse is replaced with another.

Kind of like how every 4-8 years there's a new President and everyone is optimistic and feeling great, and every time we find out they're lying snakes and have only their own interests at heart.

The Egyptian revolution is now officially suspect.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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The US overthrowing governments and installing dictators is nothing new.

Good line about Mubarak "outliving his usefulness".

Question is, will the people of Egypt get a real leader or another US puppet.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Would the TPTB let this, or push for this to start without knowing who would move into the vacuume of power ? NO. There is , as far as I know, no one person the Egyption people have rallied around politically. It seems that they just wanted Mubaarak ( and minions ) out.

Now there is talk of the Muslum Brotherhood filling the void.And not just in Egypt. Is the US attempting to 'install" said group, or other hard liners ? Is this Carter and Khomeini once again , something bigger? Like erasing the boarders of the Middle East and installing the Muslum Brotherhood throughout? NWO?

en.wikipedia.org...

www.wnd.com...

www.telegraph.co.uk... html

www.irishcentral.com...

www.nytimes.com...

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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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It makes absolutely zero sense that the US would in any way be behind this. Really, the US is going to try to overthrow an ally when what they will get is a possibility of a hard line pro-islamic radicals in power in their closest muslim nation allly??

Sorry I don't buy it.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Yes, I've been discussing this as well. I am wondering what the possibility of the MB taking control of Egypt and elsewhere and reestablishing a caliphate. If the Arabs united it really would be an US v them situation.

My only problem with this is that Arabs/Muslim countries have been talking about pan Arabism/ or a super state since, well probably since the end of the Ottoman's. It's never panned out, so why would it now with even more greed and corruption?

Not to mention, the protesters don't want an ultra religious government they was a secular parliamentary system.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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I so agree. I've been watching this thread and boondocksaints one in hopes that something convinces me, but I'm still not quite "getting it" here. We were discussing some aspects of this in my thread, and I have to say, I think this is one that just may have gotten away from the big boys.

Of course there were moves in this direction being made by the usual suspects, but I think the human element threw a nice monkey wrench into their plan, and they're probably scrambling hard to regroup and control the fallout.
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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by NadaCambia
You seriously believe your governments intention is to spread freedom? I find that hard to believe.


Exactly, and the UK was right in the mix with us....
Operation AJAX....?

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, on August 19, 1953 (known as the 28 Mordad coup[1] in Iran), was the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom and the United States




I wouldn't be surprised if one totalitarian pro-American arse is replaced with another.


Like at Downing street?



The Egyptian revolution is now officially suspect.


Why?
Because you read it on a conspiracy site.




posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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I keep going back and forth myself. At this point I'm thinking that perhaps these guys and most likely others were recruited to start a protest but it wasn't supposed to go this far, Mubarak wasn't actually supposed to be removed. Once things really got going I think all bets were off, and that is why everyone seems to be playing the fence, well except of course for King Abdullah, he is very clear in his support of Mubarak and the protesters are evil.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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Abdullah has been supportive, but you know what? That could be a public face. Behind the scenes he could be screaming, "This guy supported Iran, get him out of there!"

I'm still seeing a few scenarios about the whole Mubarak situation.

1. They do want him out and he's digging his heals in with what little guard and other support he has left
2. They don't want him out of there and he's going to blame the rest of his government for his actions re: Iran
3. They do want him and his government out of there but are doing it in phases for some reason
4. I had more but I forget and you get the picture?

He could still wind up out of there. If not, the people's protests will be pretty much for nothing.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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I just hate it when we get all the blame? What about France? And what about pretty much every government on the face of the planet with these very same intentions who participate behind the scenes or just sit back and watch in their predatory fashion or both? No one is blameless here. Not even Switzerland



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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I don't think he is going to survive this, politically of course, unless he refuses to flee in which his life could very well be in danger. The protests seem to have to full on riot, I saw this morning that the antiquities museum had been damaged and the military was trying to mainly protect the museums and other historical artifacts. They were showing pictures and video of smashed cases and exhibits lying on the floor.

That truly saddens me, I thought the Egyptians were much more nationalistic and had too much historical pride to do that. I'm all for ousting corrupt leaders but don't destroy your priceless history. There is also the remote possibility that someone is using the situation to get their hands on the artifacts for the black market though, I seriously doubt it but I'll throw it out there.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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The top dog always gets the blame
. No single country/leader plans to rid the modern world of a leader without a global majority.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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But..but...he's an ally. Oh wait...that doesn't mean a thing


I wish it were true that the top dog always got the blame.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by DogsDogsDogs
"The true objective here is NOT Egypt or Tunisia.
It's to conquer Israel. The Islamic Revolution
will be the catapult to the destruction of Israel.
And the Arabs will be his standing army"

You edited! Whoa! (aw geez, now I'm going to have to think at this hour) You got any recommended reading for that? Interesting...REAL interesting!

Revelations (King James Version)
and a heightened sense of intuition.

Soros' biggest obstacle to NWO (after America)
is Religion. He has to break down Religion.
That means he has to disassemble Israel
since the Jews are supposedly the chosen ones
in the Bible. The Islamic states are in the perfect
geographic location to conquer Israel. so these are
the nations he has to take out the Israeli sympathizers
out of power.

However, the poor un-suspecting Muslims think
they are doing it for Allah and freedom. They're not.
they're just helping Soros get to his final objective.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. They are
just being used as a means to an end (literally).





Well that never crossed my mind.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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Yeah i don't know about that though. Ever since Beck aired his little special on the evil that is George Soros, every time something happens it is Soro's fault. At this point I just disregard it, because his followers learned a new name and now he is responsible for EVERYTHING. Ahhhhhhh, damn Beck.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by pirhanna
It makes absolutely zero sense that the US would in any way be behind this. Really, the US is going to try to overthrow an ally when what they will get is a possibility of a hard line pro-islamic radicals in power in their closest muslim nation allly??

Sorry I don't buy it.


Depends on what Obama has in mind.


Seems to me that Biden and Obama don't even know the comments the other is making.

Iran Sees Rise of Islamic Hard-Liners
www.nytimes.com...

Text: Obama’s Speech in Cairo

Published: June 4, 2009

www.nytimes.com...

www.nytimes.com...


June 23, 2009
Barack Obama on Iran - the full text

www.timesonline.co.uk...


news.bbc.co.uk...

Entering the third year of his reign, the poo will hit the fan.
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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
I apologize on behalf of the USA for spreading freedom.

Not!

Haha. We are damn proud of it.


your are joking right...
to name a few....


kx



1970 Cambodia — The CIA overthrows Prince Sahounek, who is highly popular among Cambodians for keeping them out of the Vietnam War. He is replaced by CIA puppet Lon Nol, who immediately throws Cambodian troops into battle. This unpopular move strengthens once minor opposition parties like the Khmer Rouge, which achieves power in 1975 and massacres millions of its own people. 1971 Bolivia — After half a decade of CIA-inspired political turmoil, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows the leftist President Juan Torres. In the next two years, dictator Hugo Banzer will have over 2,000 political opponents arrested without trial, then tortured, raped and executed. Haiti — "Papa Doc" Duvalier dies, leaving his 19-year old son "Baby Doc" Duvalier the dictator of Haiti. His son continues his bloody reign with full knowledge of the CIA. 1972 The Case-Zablocki Act — Congress passes an act requiring congressional review of executive agreements. In theory, this should make CIA operations more accountable. In fact, it is only marginally effective. Cambodia — Congress votes to cut off CIA funds for its secret war in Cambodia. Wagergate Break-in — President Nixon sends in a team of burglars to wiretap Democratic offices at Watergate. The team members have extensive CIA histories, including James McCord, E. Howard Hunt and five of the Cuban burglars. They work for the Committee to Reelect the President (CREEP), which does dirty work like disrupting Democratic campaigns and laundering Nixon’s illegal campaign contributions. CREEP’s activities are funded and organized by another CIA front, the Mullen Company. 1973 Chile — The CIA overthrows and assassinates Salvador Allende, Latin America’s first democratically elected socialist leader. The problems begin when Allende nationalizes American-owned firms in Chile. ITT offers the CIA $1 million for a coup (reportedly refused). The CIA replaces Allende with General Augusto Pinochet, who will torture and murder thousands of his own countrymen in a crackdown on labor leaders and the political left. CIA begins internal investigations — William Colby, the Deputy Director for Operations, orders all CIA personnel to report any and all illegal activities they know about. This information is later reported to Congress. Watergate Scandal — The CIA’s main collaborating newspaper in America, The Washington Post, reports Nixon’s crimes long before any other newspaper takes up the subject. The two reporters, Woodward and Bernstein, make almost no mention of the CIA’s many fingerprints all over the scandal. It is later revealed that Woodward was a Naval intelligence briefer to the White House, and knows many important intelligence figures, including General Alexander Haig. His main source, "Deep Throat," is probably one of those. CIA Director Helms Fired — President Nixon fires CIA Director Richard Helms for failing to help cover up the Watergate scandal. Helms and Nixon have always disliked each other. The new CIA director is William Colby, who is relatively more open to CIA reform.


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