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Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by galadofwarthethird
There are always rulers because someone needs to have a plan and know how to execute it. Great, we get rid of the bad people in charge, what then? That is the question you miss. How do you organize society to prevent bad people from being in charge?
What happens when a society does not have a ruling elite?
Anarchists did not create the education system, government, business or anything else.
In political science there is one iron clad rule, it is the iron clad rule of oligarchy.
There was a great video, maybe someone can post a link, of a woman in Chicago celebrating Obama's election. She said something akin to she wouldn't have to work anymore and would get everything for free.
What is the "tea party" all about, is it about freedom, no, it is about taxes.
When over half the population believes that torture is okay when used on "terrorists" we can see what people really believe.
There are so many threads on the illuminati, the New World Order, Masons and the people in control.
If they invited most people to join, they would, just to get the goodies.
The Eastern Mystery Schools and all the traditions of the groups mentioned are not evil at heart, they are based on ruling people in a methodical manner.
Historically, "good rulers" were raised to view their subjects as children.
The leaders ruled with a carrot and stick approach because it was the only thing that worked.
Plato believed that the person best suited should rule. Aristotle believed in a form of democracy. He did not believe the majority was "good" he just thought the elite should have as many people involved as possible. Aristotle believed that the leaders of all forms of "government" would eventually put their own wants above those of the people they ruled. The basics of humanity and society have not changed and history continues to prove itself.
...most people make little effort to understand.
We may live in a world where we are controlled...
Without leadership we would have no streets, no sewage facilities, no electricity and no mass distribution of food or water.
Please do not misunderstand, I am not a cheerleader for the world's current leadership or direction.
The title was something like "Population Stabilization". It was not about starving or killing everyone, it was about promoting birth control, population control and stability.
Look at "Road Rules", "The Real World", "Survivor" and how people act on these shows.
If you have ever been to a rave you see what people are like
want them to rule the world, unrestrained and high as a kite, only concerned with sex and drugs.
What if the ruling elite was trying to keep things in order
Jesus called us sheep because we are.
Prior to the housing market collapse, millions of people bought houses they could not afford with the sole intent of selling them and getting free money.
They were like kids in a candy shop and exhibited no restraint.
As the economy continues to collapse we see people fighting over the last crumbs like wild wolverines. We see the corruption of the police, churches, all parts of industry and that should tell us why we need leadership that is better than us.
I expect this thread will anger many, good.
The question is not whether or not our current form of government is good, it is a question of what should we replace it with.
You miss my point. I am not asking if these "elites" should be in charge, I am asking how we should organize society and who should be in charge. This whole thread has been fascinating, I don't believe in the Illuminati, lol. I believe there are always people in charge because you cannot organize anything without having people learn specialized skills and leadership is one of them.
I know a man that is a billionaire AND a 33rd degree Mason, he would appear to many that responded to this to be some sort of scary insider. He is the furthest thing from that, he joined the Masons purely for the networking. Whatever grand control scheme people assume exists is not. It is not about a bunch of reptillian, luciferian bloodlines. There are always elites because there are always people in charge.
How you organize society is how it is determined who rises to rule. These looney theories that I read here about how they want to kill everyone or poison us all are just that, crazy. There are always rulers because someone needs to have a plan and know how to execute it.
Great, we get rid of the bad people in charge, what then? That is the question you miss. How do you organize society to prevent bad people from being in charge?
by having N0 rulers, BY having people who do jobs but have NO power over other people. people vote on EVERY issue, NOT a single person IN CHARGE. that's how you do it. but we all know that will NEVER happen, because those in CHARGE make all the decisions and would NOT allow it.
Originally posted by AQuestion
I am not saying I believe this, I am asking the question. What happens when a society does not have a ruling elite? People tend to be even more selfish and harsh with one another. Anarchists did not create the education system, government, business or anything else. In political science there is one iron clad rule, it is the iron clad rule of oligarchy. It means that all societies are eventually run by a small group of elite.