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Shrinking Kilogram Bewilders Physicists

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posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Shrinking Kilogram Bewilders Physicists


www.physorg.com

(AP) -- A kilogram just isn't what it used to be. The 118-year-old cylinder that is the international prototype for the metric mass, kept tightly under lock and key outside Paris, is mysteriously losing weight - if ever so slightly.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Wow!!! So the standard of weight seems to be losing ...weight..... Personally I don't think weight has gone on a diet. I do think it has something to do with gravity itself

That would be soooooo cool if this has anything to do with 2012 earth shifts.... if the pull of Gravity is becoming less.

Perhaps my dreams of levitation and being able to slam dunk like Michael Jordan just might come true

www.physorg.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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its 118 years old, ....

Perhaps Matter is not as stable as we once believed, ...... and it is literaly disintigrating, although in a very very small and undetectable manner.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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The kilogram is measured on a piece of metal held in Paris. Over the years from being handled and I guess just natural decay the metal as lost its weight.

Scientist are not really concerned they are just trying to argue that we need to base the weight of a Kilogram on a constant, like how the atomic clock measures time by the vibration of an atom this way the measurment is always constant.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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if its shrinking in an undetectable manner...then how did they detect it???



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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This is strange, I wonder if it has something to do with the energy that is increasing? But...

E=mc^2

c^2 = constant

so if c^2 = E/m and the energy is increasing both terrestrially and celestially (i.e. the schumman resonance is increasing, the energy of the solar system is increasing with an enormous amount of plasma build-up, even the energy of the entire galaxy is increasing, hence the NASA discovery of such strange energetic phenomena such as the giant gamma wave bubbles) than obviously the mass must increase for c^2 to be constant.

But if the ENERGY is increasing and the MASS is decreasing, than c^2 could be INCREASING which means maybe light is speeding up!


Which would mean that time dilation and legth contraction would also be effected....

(That could possibly explain everybody's perception of time acting strange...)


lol just some random thoughts....



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Anybody else notice the date?


September 12, 2007 By JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press Writer


Not exactly breaking news, but interesting none the less.

Heres a more recent article.

Royal Society meets to weigh up the shrinking kilogram



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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I mean from an outside perspective, ....

such as radioactive elements give off radiation.


The decay may be so small that they cannot detect the particles it gives off.



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posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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its in 2 glass domes, how has the metal been handled then if it has been losing weight and that is the cause,
also can anyone tell me what the metal is made of, and its rate of decay



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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Hahaha

It isn't getting lighter, measurement systems are more accurate!

Dunning



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Its made of platinum & iridium I have no idea of the exact mix but I'm sure its public info. It does get handled by scientists and this as been blamed on speeding up the reduction of its mass.

Hope this helps.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Here is an enigma to ponder, for a time, and times, and half a time...

To approach the speed of light and cross the thresh-hold, an object, or particle would gain mass? And all time appeared to stop as being "eternal?" So that on that scale, it would seem as a sun?

Perhaps to surpass this barrier, things would appear as if at the level of the atom?

Can you see the inference? To Be or Not To Be, to think it is to do it, the faith of even a mustard seed...you can see where this is headed?

Could it be so simple? If it is, how can we prove it? Is the capacity of "leaping of faith" have everything to do with it?

If this is so, then what we "think," what we "do," and what we "are" has direct influence and effect on scales we never thought possible? How can "we know" this information? Quantum Entanglement? If so, then "Light" is the answer all along. Literal, Parable, Taken Literally, unravels the "enigma?"

Does this have any effect? Using logical words for a quantum thought? Where is the origin?

Ponder this for a time, times, and half a time...and you'll have the answer.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Star and Flag; but very interesting, especially in our day and time. What fantastic discoveries are to be found, especially on the Quantum level. A search of "Platinum" revealed an article about the hidden world of quantum physics, which stated: "On the atomic scale particles do not behave as we know it in the macro-atomic world."

I have always suspected an "underlying" structure, for lack of a better term, which the quantum level is ordered-around, but this information from PhysOrg, brought a slight smile to my face. And it could explain why there is an almost imperceptible drop in the weights. Perhaps something is affecting them on the quantum level?

PhysOrg states that a "research team" is publishing their findings on January, 8, 2011, which illustrates "New properties emerge which are the result of an effect known as the Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle." And this is a major discovery! A step-further into the unknown.

Professor Alan Tennant, leader of the Berlin-based research group, that "When applying a magnetic field at right angles to an aligned spin the magnetic chain will transform into a new state called quantum critical, which can be thought of as a quantum version of a fractal pattern."

This is but the "icing-on-the-cake," with our "quantum world," by "introducing more quantum uncertainty the researchers observed that the chain of atoms acts like a nanoscale guitar string." And further, Dr. Radu Coldea, explains: "Here the tension comes from the interaction between spins causing them to magnetically resonate. For these interactions we found a series (scale) of resonant notes: The first two notes show a perfect relationship with each other. Their frequencies (pitch) are in the ratio of 1.618…, which is the golden ratio famous from art and architecture."

Dr. Radu Coldea also states, the likelihood is not coincidental, and ""It reflects a beautiful property of the quantum system - a hidden symmetry. Actually quite a special one called E8 by mathematicians, and this is its first observation in a material."

In closing, the significance of this particular finding, is one which hopefully, will manifest as continued benefits for mankind. And PhysOrg remarks: "Such discoveries are leading physicists to speculate that the quantum, atomic scale world may have its own underlying order. Similar surprises may await researchers in other materials in the quantum critical state," and I tend to agree. Fascinating.

An example representing the "Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle," of hidden-symmetry existing on the quantum level, is present in the "four-fold" Erdos Lemniscate, pictured below:

(Notice the symmetry and beautiful patterns which are produced.)



Check where the dots coincide at certain points, which is not viewable on a "one-fold" representation, pictured below:



But the most interesting thing, which is not coincidental, is how the center of the pattern, is identical to the patterns produced in the well-known astronomy program, "Stellarium," when the view is set to "N" and the speed of the program animation is increased dramatically; I see the motions of the stars and planets produce "triangles, pentagrams, squares, and more," but this is hard-to-see, at-first. A trick to use would be to slightly defocus your eyes and stare in-the-center of the animation. Amazing?
edit on 28-1-2011 by trekwebmaster because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by BellaMente
This is strange, I wonder if it has something to do with the energy that is increasing? But...

E=mc^2

c^2 = constant

so if c^2 = E/m and the energy is increasing both terrestrially and celestially (i.e. the schumman resonance is increasing, the energy of the solar system is increasing with an enormous amount of plasma build-up, even the energy of the entire galaxy is increasing, hence the NASA discovery of such strange energetic phenomena such as the giant gamma wave bubbles) than obviously the mass must increase for c^2 to be constant.

But if the ENERGY is increasing and the MASS is decreasing, than c^2 could be INCREASING which means maybe light is speeding up!


Which would mean that time dilation and length contraction would also be effected....

(That could possibly explain everybody's perception of time acting strange...)


lol just some random thoughts....



I think the problem is that we are doing this more accurately now.

Like what that guy said!
edit on 28-1-2011 by binomialtheorem because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by binomialtheorem

Originally posted by BellaMente
This is strange, I wonder if it has something to do with the energy that is increasing? But...

E=mc^2

c^2 = constant

so if c^2 = E/m and the energy is increasing both terrestrially and celestially (i.e. the schumman resonance is increasing, the energy of the solar system is increasing with an enormous amount of plasma build-up, even the energy of the entire galaxy is increasing, hence the NASA discovery of such strange energetic phenomena such as the giant gamma wave bubbles) than obviously the mass must increase for c^2 to be constant.

But if the ENERGY is increasing and the MASS is decreasing, than c^2 could be INCREASING which means maybe light is speeding up!


Which would mean that time dilation and length contraction would also be effected....

(That could possibly explain everybody's perception of time acting strange...)


lol just some random thoughts....



I think the problem is that we are doing this more accurately now.

Like what that guy said!
edit on 28-1-2011 by binomialtheorem because: (no reason given)


What would you give of the chance of this effect being due to a "proximity" to an event horizon of a singularity?



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by trekwebmaster

Originally posted by binomialtheorem

Originally posted by BellaMente
This is strange, I wonder if it has something to do with the energy that is increasing? But...

E=mc^2

c^2 = constant

so if c^2 = E/m and the energy is increasing both terrestrially and celestially (i.e. the schumman resonance is increasing, the energy of the solar system is increasing with an enormous amount of plasma build-up, even the energy of the entire galaxy is increasing, hence the NASA discovery of such strange energetic phenomena such as the giant gamma wave bubbles) than obviously the mass must increase for c^2 to be constant.

But if the ENERGY is increasing and the MASS is decreasing, than c^2 could be INCREASING which means maybe light is speeding up!


Which would mean that time dilation and length contraction would also be effected....

(That could possibly explain everybody's perception of time acting strange...)


lol just some random thoughts....



I think the problem is that we are doing this more accurately now.

Like what that guy said!
edit on 28-1-2011 by binomialtheorem because: (no reason given)


What would you give of the chance of this effect being due to a "proximity" to an event horizon of a singularity?


Very unlikely!

First off we would have already noticed its effects on the orbits of the other planets.

Second of all it would cause a big stir in the kuiper belt, which we are trying to get a good picture of.

I could keep going, but the main point is that its effects would be too obvious to not notice.

But if it is we would all be destroyed via spaghettification!



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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50 micrograms is a huge error most of which was probably caused by oxidation or handling.

The Pioneer anomaly suggests that gravity well interaction may not be as well understood as thought.



When the craft were at distances of between 20 and 70 astronomical units, researchers found that the Doppler frequency of microwave signals that were bounced off the craft drifted at a small, constant rate (see "Spacecraft anomalies put gravity to the test" -- link in original article). This drift meant that the craft were experiencing a constant acceleration directed towards the Sun, at a level that is 10 billion times weaker that the Earth's gravitational pull.


www.freerepublic.com...

Unless they are pulling our leg they would have been smart enough to eliminated any radiation effects from Pioneer.

Pioneer 10 is moving at 27,380 which is a fair percentage of the speed of light so there may be some clues there not mentioned in this article.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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It's just a conspiracy to get people to eat more burgers.



posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Just a shot in the dark here. Its been along time since high school for me , but is not gravity the result of the spinning of the earth. If the earths rotation has slowed ever so slightly, would not the gravitational pull also decrease ever so slightly? Any merit to this thought?


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posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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