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reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 02:52 PM by Resentedhalo08
Originally posted by TheGhostViking
I agree but there are some people that have benefited from religion, such as guys that go to prison and use the time there to convert to a religion and come out of jail less violent and wiser . I guess these people hit rock bottom and thats when their god came to them and saved them .


Well in my opinion, the example you gave would be at rock bottom and need something to believe in, something that is bigger than them that they can use to restore their faith in humanity and in themselves.

This doesn't mean that the chosen philosphy has an all powerfull god that has summoned them or anything, called them at their hour of need, lol... that's my thoughts on that anyway.



All I know is that TPTB play every one off each other, there ALWAYS has to be an enemy and too many people on ATS fall for it .


One of the first rules of control is to give the populace an enemy, ATS certainly is not an exception and likewise is being controlled. It's my firm belief that there are goverment agents/ disinfo agents that come on ATS to discredit, derail and steer certain threads in the direction that they desire. I should imagine that's a tactic they use would be used in a topic such as this, by having 2 or more agents with a shared agenda but when posting on the thread they will both have opposing ideas and views and will literally take over the thread with petty aguing and comments, and subsequently trying to draw in others to certain points of view.

I'm not saying this is happening on this thread or most others, but I do think it goes on sometimes.


Anyway, firmly back on topic now!

I don't think the UK's Muslim population doubling in the next 20 years is a good thing, because the question has to be asked, when does it stop? This can be said for other religions and races in the UK, I feel that the english creed and original nationality is being lost bit by bit and in time may dissapear altogether, I think this is a tragedy.

Every country, race and religion deserves to preserve their culture, ideals and genetic heritence...
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reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 03:08 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Resentedhalo08



So what you're saying, basically, is that the lack of evidence for extremism in Western Muslim communities... is in fact evidence of extremism in Western Muslim communities?

That's gonna be a hard sell for me.


reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 03:10 PM by Resentedhalo08
Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
I'm afraid i havnt read the Qu'ran... i see no reason to really after reading the ATS forums for the best part of 2 years....


I highly suggest that you do read it, IMO a person cannot have a fully balanced opinion on something unless they have all the facts. ATS, like any public medium is prone to exageration, personal opinion and bias.


there has been enough said on the religion to know what its about plus i only need to see with my own eyes that there is no Freedom gained by being in that Religion.... none at all..... especially as i've said before for the women!!


well do you truely know what it's about? There is freedom in Islam, for the men that is.. it is a male orientated religion, men in Islam can get away with a lot and Sharia Law is very much on the males side, Islam is a sexist and oppressive religon, that much is obvious.



I have however read the Bible... be it a long time ago.... i came to the conclusion that although alot of it i feel was made up.... at least it never really said you must do this or you must do that.... there were no rules in it as far as i can see.... you either believed what happened or you didn't..


Actually the bible does say you must do this and that, lol... it says it quite a bit infact, the difference between Christianity and Islam is the how devout the believers are and the interpretation they take. For instance, The Amish take a literal interpretation of the bible and follow it strictly just as a fanatical muslim follows the Qu'ran, literally and often distorts the interpretation. But, the Amish are a significantly small number of people who follow the literal word of the bible, whereas the fanatical muslim is far greater in number, and generally the moderates follow the Qu'ran far more than your average christian follows the bible.

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reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 03:12 PM by TheGhostViking
reply to post by CanadianDream420



Good point !, lets be honest, religion is on the wane , and killing people in the name of religion is not the way forward lol
One thing I dont like about some of my fellow brits is when they call anyone brown a "paki"
Thats like calling every black person a Jamaican .

More people need to look at a map of the world now and then .


reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 04:52 PM by theguygeeza
reply to post by CanadianDream420

I'd like to start this reply with a quote; "Under the heavens there is but on family"

Secondly I'd like to say this subject is no bullcr*p, or joke it is a documented & researched fact that the Muslim population on this planet is growing at a tremendous pace. I see it personaly myself here in England, I see opressed women, scared & brainwashed children, ghetto like communities where a certain religon or country of origin is dominant. These are facts & are becoming more evident, normal & accepted around us. The problem is the same all over the world & is noticeable in Europe especialy France & Britan.

I am no racist or zenophobic, facist or a religious nut, I am a 30 year old trying to gain an informed perspective on the world for my 1 year old son for when he is older. I am concerned & worried at the way governments especialy ours are handling the influx of refugees. I am disgusted at the way our MSM turn us against one another though & find & pick at faults so that there is a constant tension between all.

I have a small albeit a rather daft theory though on this whole matter; once upon a time Britan was known as The British Empire. We sailed the world, took over countrys, forced our religons & ways upon people that were sometimes a bit further down the industrial ladder than we were (in some places sticks & stones versus gunpowder & bullets) we also murdered, stole, chastized people & were generaly quite a bad lot.

In the days of the crusades (thats the knight in shining armour era btw) we were even worse, we were darn right ferocious, vicious & terrible. Doing the same things in an even more brutal & carefree way, we genuinely thought we were Gods people shouted about it, forced it upon people & Lord, God, Allah, Krishna, Shiva, whoever help you if you tried to deny us anything or get in our way.

The perspective I have on this whole matter is that the Muslim faith & people are basicly doing as we did but in a more logical, stealthly & constructed manner. Where as we tried to take over using force, this faith & people are doing it by way of secrecy. Breeding us out of our own country as a start, forcing their laws & rules upon us, sometimes even making us feel uncomfortable in our supermarkets or shops. This all may seem like a paranoia to people or a delusion but I tell thee with faith that as Mr Dylan put it "times they are a changing" Many people are not knowingly taking part in the Islamic thrust, I have Muslim friends as I do followers of other faiths but it is & has been in effect for many years now & I think will continue untll we all become enlightened, open our collective eyes, join hands & progress to the next level which I am not sure we can do if we are still seperated by faith.

Whether or not TPB or the NWO or an amalgum of the two with pieces of other things thrown in are allowing this to happen as it is going to help them with their big plans in some way or not I do not know. What I do know though is that the fanatics of this religon are dangerous but not as dangerous as our own governments (9/11 for one example, the Windscale fire/meltdown in Cumbria 1957) & are certainly not as dangerous as the NWO is & have been for a long time.

This post was not intened solely for you Canadiandreamer but was posted as a way of this worried English person getting its voice over. These are dark times my friends so let us try to shine a little light & spread a little love no


reply posted on 28-1-2011 @ 05:06 PM by TheGhostViking
reply to post by theguygeeza



I said this last week il say it again even though im getin f ed off with saying it
If the muslims are taking over / have taken over ,_ WHY ARE we in muslim countries slaughtering innocent WOMEN and CHILDREN ?????

Ive had enough , its a joke it really is .
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